ooooh, thank you so much!visualtraining wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:29 am watched maurice tourneur's the white moth (1924) recently! i was gobsmacked when this famously rare barbara la marr vehicle showed up on youtube in great quality. you just need to see it...
Lencho of the Apes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:55 am All the Griffith Biographs getting renovated.
https://filmpreservationsociety.org/biograph-project
um...don't get too excited about it lol. my posting in this thread is not necessarily a general endorsement given that i'm currently mildly obsessed with the realistic (and occasionally highly erotic) melodramas of the 1910s, with all their many slight variations on stereotyped gestures etc and there's unlikely to be eg much doll action in them, but if there is, i'll yellvisualtraining wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:26 pm this looks great sally! i'm definitely going to watch
i have a weakness for movies about nuns because i tried to become one in the past, lol. so i'm sure i'll enjoy it regardless. also love 1910s melodramas, though i haven't explored the scandinavian ones much. i haven't seen asta nielsen's suffragette movie; sounds very unfortunate. and yes call me vizsally wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:34 pm um...don't get too excited about it lol. my posting in this thread is not necessarily a general endorsement given that i'm currently mildly obsessed with the realistic (and occasionally highly erotic) melodramas of the 1910s, with all their many slight variations on stereotyped gestures etc and there's unlikely to be eg much doll action in them, but if there is, i'll yell
i haven't been able to watch asta since i saw her suffragette movie, which is possibly the most ghastly reactionary film i've seen, given that it was made at the height of the suffragette frenzy, and i'm still sulking at her....
anyway, can we call you viz.?
omg i didn't realize jaque catelain was in koenigsmark. i adore him too (how can one not?) and that's really interesting to hear re: perret and america. forgot he did those pictures with mae murray and gloria swanson. i've loved his earlier shorts i've seen and thought the huge change in style was just it being...the 20s lol. i think as far as his longer features go i'm going to watch koenigsmark, l'enfant de paris, and le danseuse orchidee (in that order)...my curiosity about koenigsmark is just too great lol (i also have interest in antique/vintage clothing and i'm dazzled by the fact that all the costumes are by the boué souers). thank you so much for the link to all those perret films! downloading nowsally wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:56 am eh, i've been hanging on to this for ages and not got to it yet, mainly because i'd read pretty much the same assessment as above. i guess koenigsmark suffers from the same problems (altho, since i adore jaque catelain, even in films like this one where he's slightly mis-cast, i still enjoyed it)
from what i understand perret went to america to make movies and came back having changed his style of movie-making from total control of editing, cinematography, lighting, set design etc to movie-set segmentation where those kind of decisions were delegated to a team...i guess the films lost a lot of his previous intimacy, his unique reflexive style/humour, but gained in spectacle...
i suppose i'll watch it one day (cool to see that it was produced by pornographer natan, who i'm watching a doc about for 2013 poll) but in the meantime i'm still working my way through these (charming, but no english subtitles)
but watched a couple of other italian shorts from 1912 at the same time and this one was leagues above... 
Without doubt, Zigeuneren Raphael is a work of remarkable artistry.
