1984 Poll 2.0

[rischka]

also ♥

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1544 ... CxHby0N91g

[sally]

coalfields - bill brand

West Virginia industrial landscapes are collaged on an optical printer through a series of jagged shapes that transform the photographed scenes into a semi-abstract kinetic field. The technique developed by Brand in his earlier films, extends the already complex visual idiom by inlaying social, sexual, personal and political subject matter. Woven into the fabric of the film is the story of Fred Carter, a retired coal miner and black lung activist who was framed by the Federal Government in its effort to undercut the black lung movement and to stop his bid for president of the United Mine Workers Association. His story is told through fragments of documentary interviews and by a poet whose narrative forms a counter theme within the film. The film’s thematic content and formal visualizations sit in precarious balance.

https://vimeo.com/73592577

[lineuphere]

Some things I liked and things in my queue:

Balkan Spy
A Sunday in the Country
A Summer at Grandpa's
When the Tenth Month Comes
The Killing Fields
Amadeus
Ghare-Baire
Paris, Texas
Once Upon a Time in America
All of Me
Blonde Death
Streetwise
Love Streams
Voyage to Cythera
Rectangle & Rectangles
Class Relations
Marlene
The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter
Mano mazyte zmona
Fountain of Dreams
Farewell to the Ark
Chuchelo
Samson & Sally

[sally]

another window movie!!! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

venise n'existe pas - jean-claude rousseau

i looooooooooooooove jc rousseau, and this is him in full irony mode between image and reality, a mini antiquities of rome, every gesture so precise....♥♥♥

[rischka]

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1546 ... I9CS9Yjuxw

this was pretty terrific

[rischka]

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1547 ... RTFFn5MFYg

[rischka]

♥yellow earth♥ both a beautiful ethnographic film and an effective propaganda for women's rights

[rischka]

and one of those films that could use a good restoration while at the same time making me think i might miss this terrible vhs

[oOgiandujaOo]

Two tiers:

うる星やつら２　ビューティフル・ドリーマー / Urusei Yatsura 2 Byūtifuru Dorīmā / Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer (1984 - Mamoru Oshii)
Kaos (1984 - Paolo & Vittorio Taviani)
Klassenverhältnisse / Class Relations (1984 - Danièle Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub)
Dune (1984 - David Lynch)
Forbrydelsens element / The Element of Crime (1984 - Lars von Trier)

Boy Meets Girl (1984 - Leos Carax)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984 - Steven Spielberg)
Supergirl (1984 - Jeannot Szwarc)
მონანიება / Monanieba / Repentance (1984 - Tengiz Abuladze)
L'amour par terre / Love on the Ground (1984 - Jacques Rivette)

[sally]

being and doing - ken mcmullen

trying to link folk customs with performance art via pre-industrial ritual participation to modern alienated observation, but just makes the 'artists' look horribly self-indulgent if the performance isn't explicitly political. (& featuring amongst others, milan knížák - boo! hiss! last seen being reactionary about prague architecture)







also, i don't know, i'm seeing a theme here lads.....

[Angel]

A Passage to India
Abwärts (Out of Order)
Bao gio cho den tháng Muoi (When the Tenth Month Comes)
Beverly Hills Cop
Blood Simple
Body Double
Cal
Choose Me
Ciske de Rat (Ciske the Rat)
Country
Da qiao xia mian (Under the Bridge)
Flashpoint
Gremlins
Harry & Son
Les nuits de la pleine lune (Full Moon in Paris)
Los santos inocentes (The Holy Innocents)
Romancing the Stone
Shang Hai zhi yen (Shanghai Blues)
Tasio
Varljivo leto '68 (The Elusive Summer of '68)

HMs (among the greatest TV Mini-Series ever)
Cuore
The Jewel in the Crown

Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500)
Amadeus
Huang tu di
Kaze no tani no Naushika
Love Streams
Once Upon a Time in America
Paris, Texas
Stop Making Sense
Stranger Than Paradise
The Terminator
This Is Spinal Tap

To watch before the deadline
Canicule
Yu Qing Sao

Wanted
Golae sanyang

[rischka]

ok promise to watch a 1984 film tonight as my new couch will be delivered this afternoon. lawn chairs are not comfortable for feature length (:

[Lencho of the Apes]

84-poll viewing update:

Alphabet City is beautiful, it's as if Abel Ferrara did a version of The Monks Of Monk Hall.

Other major contenders seen this month, mostly more predictable -- L'Amour Par Terre - Rivette , The Image of Dorian Gray in the Yellow Press (Ulrike Ottinger, 1984, 150m) , Point De Fuite - Ruiz , Voyage To Cythera - Angelopoulos . I dug Leila And The Wolves, but apparently I'm a sucker for any middle-eastern movie with feminist content.

[rischka]

dorian gray was utterly bizarre and i of course loved it ♥

[sally]

slavnosti sněženek / the snowdrop festival - jiří menzel




surely this is the manorial retreat of baron kekesfalva?




and.......vláčil????

[Lencho of the Apes]

Deeply glummed-out: the copy of 8 Diagram Pole Fighter I pulled down is dubbed. I don't think I can watch it like that. I wonder if there's an alternative. Oh, well, the month is practically over, I'll live.

[lineuphere]

Final:

Twenty Years Later (Eduardo Coutinho)
Streetwise (Martin Bell)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders)
Love Streams (John Cassavetes)

Heimat (Edgar Reitz)
Voyage to Cythera (Theodoros Angelopoulos)
Balkan Spy (Dusan Kovacevic, Bozidar 'Bota' Nikolic)
A Sunday in the Country (Bertrand Tavernier)

A Summer at Grandpa's (Hsiao-Hsien Hou)
When the Tenth Month Comes (Dang Nhat Minh)
The Killing Fields (Roland Joffé)
Farewell to the Ark (Shûji Terayama)

First Graders (Abbas Kiarostami)
Repetance (Tengiz Abuladze)
The Runner (Amir Naderi)
Ghare-Baire (Satyajit Ray)

All of Me (Carl Reiner)
Romancing the Stone (Robert Zemeckis)
Stranger Than Paradise (Jim Jarmusch)
Amadeus (Milos Forman)

[pabs]

1. Heimat (Reitz)

Nothing else.

[rischka]

manoel's destinies
class relations
dorian gray in the yellow press
yellow earth

the holy innocents
american dreams (lost and found)
8 diagram pole fighter
when the tenth month comes

favorites of the moon
full moon in paris
twenty years later (coutinho)
my friend ivan lapshin

the terminator
shanghai blues
wanderers of the desert
borders (lahhaam)

repo man
love streams
under the volcano
purple rain

[rischka]

plz sub stop making sense for purple rain!

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Five tiers of 1

1. American Dreams (Lost and Found)
2. Jungle Girl (Richard Myers)
3. A and B in Ontario (Joyce Weiland, Hollis Frampton)
4. The Eight Diagram Pole Fighter (Lau Kar-leung)
5. Amadeus (Milos Forman)

[Silga]

Final list

Streets of Fire (Walter Hill)
A Passage to India (David Lean)
Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone)
Blood Simple (Coen brothers)

Broadway Danny Rose (Woody Allen)
Moscow on the Hudson (Paul Mazursky)
Frankenweenie (Tim Burton)
The Terminator (James Cameron)

Places in the Heart (Robert Benton)
Ghostbusters (Ivan Reitman)
Romancing the Stone (Robert Zemeckis)
Garbo Talks (Sidney Lumet)

Body Double (Brian De Palma)
Against All Odds (Taylor Hackford)
Beverly Hills Cop (Martin Brest)
Oh, God! You Devil (Paul Bogart)

2010: The Year We Make Contact (Peter Hyams)
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (Joseph Zito)
Quest (Elaine Bass, Saul Bass)
The Evil That Men Do (J. Lee Thompson)

[Lencho of the Apes]

Final...

Gremlins - Dante
Wanderers Of The Desert - nacer Khemir
Repo Man - Cox
Shanghai Blues - Tsui Hark

Alphabet City 1984 Directed by Amos Poe
Decoder (1984, Muscha)
Farewell To The Ark -
The Image of Dorian Gray in the Yellow Press (Ulrike Ottinger, 1984, 150m)

American Dreams Lost And Found - Benning
L'Amour Par Terre - Rivette
Morituri - Philippe Toledano
Special Effects - Larry Cohen

Leila And The Wolves
Point De Fuite - Ruiz
Stranger Than Paradise - Jarmusch
voyage of a hand - ruiz

CHUD
A Cruel Romance - Ryazanov
Diary For My Children
Voyage To Cythera - Angelopoulos


Also watched

A and B in Ontario (Joyce Wieland, Hollis Frampton, 1984, 15m)
L'Amour A Mort - Resnais
Another State Of Mind
Ballad Of TheLittle Soldiier - Herzog
Bunuel
Cabra Marcada Para Morrer
Choose Me - Alan Rudolph
The Cotton Club - Coppola
The Evil That Men Do
Die Familie oder Schroffstein
La Femme Publique - Zulawski
Fireflies In The North - Gosha
Hasta Cierto Punto -- Gutierrez Alea
Los Hijos De Fierro - Solanas
homecoming (yim ho)
Image Noise (Osmin’s Windows) - Jakobois
Jibaro
Jungle Girl
Karins ansikte - Bergman
The Park
Next Of Kin - Egoyan
Los santos inocentes (The Holy Innocents)
Secret Honor - Altman
Slavnostu Snezenek - Menzel
Starman - John Carpenter
Streeetwise

[karl]

a top year for fine but not quite excellent films.

the legend of princess olga (ilyenko)
the runner (naderi)
a summer at grandpa's (hou)
this is my country (brocka)

the yellow earth (chen)
the holy innocents (camus)
a year of the quiet sun (zanussi)
home and the world (ray)

a cruel romance (ryazanov)
khandhar (sen)
repentance (abuladze)
khandhar (sen)

postscript (khutsiyev)
when the tenth month comes (dang)
voyage to cythera (angelopoulos)
oh, bloody life! (bacso)

homecoming (yim)
the last glacier (leduc & frappier)
park (ojagov)
first graders (kiarostami)

[ofrene]

Love Streams
The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter
Paar
Manoel’s Destinies

A Summer at Grandpa’s
Love Unto Death
Twenty Years Later
When the Tenth Month Comes

Stranger Than Paradise
Stop Making Sense
Streetwise
Threads

Ghost
I’m Hungry, I’m Cold
Liberty at Night
Voyage to Cythera

Amadeus
Body Double
Mermaid Legend
Starman

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Poll is now closed.

[niminy-piminy]

oh, i forgot to post my ballot sooner, sorry.
https://kinometer.com/?list=442

The Image of Dorian Gray in the Yellow Press (Ulrike Ottinger)
The Family or Schroffenstein (Hans Neuenfels)
All Women are Joan of Arcs (Suzanne Lemaître)
Acupressure: Fading Images of Life (Irena Gosmanová)
1984 (Lubomír Drožď)
Klipperty Klöpp (Andrew Kötting)
Venice Doesn’t Exist (Jean-Claude Rousseau)
Full Moon in Paris (Éric Rohmer)
Heimat: A Chronicle of Germany (Edgar Reitz)
Wundkanal (Thomas Harlan)

City in Flames (Schmelzdahin)
Spirit Matters (Peter Rose)
A and B in Ontario (Joyce Wieland, Hollis Frampton)
NavelFable (Mara Mattuschka)
A Man Like Eva (Radu Gabrea)
The So-called Caryatids (Agnès Varda)
The House (Thomas Heise)
The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis)
PiRâMidas 1972-1984 (Ivan Ladislav Galeta)
The Little Gift (Tomáš Vorel)

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

RESULTS

1. Manoel's Destinies (Raúl Ruiz) / 23.5

2. Full Moon in Paris (Eric Rohmer) / 21.5

3. Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark) 19.5

4. Paris Texas (Wim Wenders) / 17.5

— When the Tenth Month Comes (Đặng Nhật Minh) / 17.5

6. The Eight Diagram Pole Fighter (Lau Kar-leung) / 16.5

7. Love Streams (John Cassavetes) / 16

8. Class Relations (Jean-Marie Straub, Danièle Huillet) / 14.5

9. Dorian Gray im Spiegel der Boulevardpresse (Ulrike Ottinger) / 14.5

10. Heimat (Edgar Reitz) / 14

11. Repentance 13.5
— The Runner 13.5
13. A Summer at Grandpa's 13
14. Body Double 12.5
15. Wanderers of the Desert 12
— Stranger than Paradise 12
— Twenty Years Later 12
— American Dreams (Lost and Found) 12
19. Yellow Earth 11.5
20. Streetwise 11
— The Holy Innocents 11

22. Nausicaa 10.5
23. Choose Me 9.5
— Once Upon a Time in America 9.5
25. Places in the Heart 9
— Streets of Fire 9
— The Terminator 9
— Voyage to Cythera 9
29. Starman 8.5
— Paar 8.5
— Love on the Ground 8.5
— Decoder 8.5
— The Home and the World 8.5

34. Kaos 8
— Jungle Girl 8
— A Passage to India 8
— Blood Simple 8
— Gremlins 8

39. Crimes of Passion 7
— Farewell to the Ark 7
— Romancing the Stone 7
— A Year of the Quiet Sun 7
43. The Legend of Suram Fortress 6.5
— Love Unto Death 6.5
— Amadeus 6.5
46. Threads 6
— Stop Making Sense 6
— Alphabet City 6
— Repo Man 6
50. Oh Bloody Life / 5.5

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Films voted for: 165. Ballots: 17.

Though not really my era, I know enough to know this is a very SCFZ top ten. Not many (any?) other film forums that would have those results.

[pabs]

Woohooo! Heimat!

I wonder how many points I gave it by having it there as my only film?