1984 Poll 2.0

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Choose your favourite films from 1984 (according to IMDB).

Each person can vote for up to 20 films. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number.

Twenty-film ballots can be formatted as follows:
- Five tiers of four films each, 4/4/4/4/4; scored 5-4-3-2-1 pts/film/tier
- Four tiers of five films each, 5/5/5/5; scored 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5 pts/film/tier
- Two tiers of ten films each, 10/10; scored 4-2 pts/film/tier
- No tiers, unranked; scored 3 pts/film
- A 20-film three-tier ballot is not possible

A tiered ballot can include less than 20 films, but in that case the total number of films must still be able to be factored by the number of tiers, so:
- A five tier ballot can include only 20, 15, 10, or 5 films
- A four tier ballot can include only 20, 16, 12, 8, or 4 films
- A three tier ballot (scored 5-3-1) can include only 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films
- A two tier ballot can include only 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, or 2 films
- Ballots that are 19, 17, 13, 11, 7 or 1 films must be no tiers

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible, so that others can use them for recommendations. You may revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline.

Deadline for 1984 ballots will be Wednesday, July 31st at around midnight EDT.

[flip]

Manoel's Destinies (Raoul Ruiz)
The Legend of Suram Fortress (Sergei Parajanov)
Repentance (Tenghiz Abuladze)
Wanderers of the Desert (Nacer Khemir)

The Runner (Amir Naderi)
Places in the Heart (Robert Benton)
Finders Keepers (Richard Lester)
Kaos (Taviani Brothers)

Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders)
Barres (Luc Moullet)
Night of the Comet (Thom Eberhardt)
Threads (Mick Jackson)

Common Air (Joseph Bernard)
Ghost (Takashi Ito)
Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark)
Al Hodoud (Duraid Lahham) -- aka 'Borders'

L'Homme a la Valise (Chantal Akerman)
Sunday in the Country (Bertrand Tavernier)
Stranger Than Paradise (Jim Jarmusch)
The Brother From Another Planet (John Sayles)

[Silga]

I will post my final list at the end of the month, but here's my provisional list for now:

Streets of Fire (Walter Hill)
A Passage to India (David Lean)
Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone)
Blood Simple (Coen brothers)

Broadway Danny Rose (Woody Allen)
Moscow on the Hudson (Paul Mazursky)
Frankenweenie (Tim Burton)
The Terminator (James Cameron)

Places in the Heart (Robert Benton)
Ghostbusters (Ivan Reitman)
Romancing the Stone (Robert Zemeckis)
Garbo Talks (Sidney Lumet)

Body Double (Brian De Palma)
Against All Odds (Taylor Hackford)
Beverly Hills Cop (Martin Brest)
Oh, God! You Devil (Paul Bogart)

2010: The Year We Make Contact (Peter Hyams)
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (Joseph Zito)
Quest (Elaine Bass, Saul Bass)
The Evil That Men Do (J. Lee Thompson)

[Holdrüholoheuho]

provisional selection...

The Image of Dorian Gray in the Yellow Press (Ulrike Ottinger, 1984, 150m)
Klipperty Klöpp (Andrew Kötting, 1984, 12m)
City in Flames (Schmelzdahin, 1984, 5m)
The So-called Caryatids (Agnès Varda, 1984, 12m)
The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984, 49m)
The House (Thomas Heise, 1984, 56m)
Heimat: A Chronicle of Germany (Edgar Reitz, 1984, 930m)
Full Moon in Paris (Éric Rohmer, 1984, 100m)
A and B in Ontario (Joyce Wieland, Hollis Frampton, 1984, 15m)
Acupressure: Fading Images of Life (Irena Gosmanová, 1984, 19m)
1984 (Lubomír Drožď, 1984, 36m)
The Little Gift (Tomáš Vorel, 1984, 11m)
Wundkanal (Thomas Harlan, 1984, 102m)
A Man Like Eva (Radu Gabrea, 1984, 92m)
PiRâMidas 1972-1984 (Ivan Ladislav Galeta, 1984, 11m)

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Acupressure: Fading Images of Life (Irena Gosmanová, 1984, 19m)

→ https://www.kinometer.com/?director=224 ... ear-latest
Praga Kaput Regni (Irena Gosmanová, 1982, 22m)
Dolce far niente (Irena Gosmanová, 1983, 2m)
Fighting for Peace (Irena Gosmanová, 1983, 10m)
Viva l’anarchy (Irena Gosmanová, 1983, 5m)
Acupressure: Fading Images of Life (Irena Gosmanová, 1984, 19m)
A Bathroom Mystery (Irena Gosmanová, 1985, 5m)
A Fairy-Tale for Madmen: Delirium of Grief – Pit of Loneliness (Irena Gosmanová, 1985, 23m)
God Bless Their Souls (Pavel Veselý, Irena Gosmanová, 1986, 11m)

Irena Gosmanová alias Pigi, born 1960 in Prague.
In the 1970s, she was expelled from her studies at the grammar school due to accusations of distributing illegal publications. In 1979, together with Čaroděj OZ (Wizard of OZ, Lubomír Drožď), she went to Ždírec in the Kokořín region, where she worked in menial jobs, later as a map draftsman for the Czech Geological Institute. In the 1990s, she briefly supported herself by creating art, currently, she works as an artistic gilder - restorer. Her film work began in the early 1980s in parallel with other creators of the informal film group around the Wizard of OZ (Karra, Pablo De Sax). A significant impetus for it was the relatively unlimited access to the Super 8 Quartz camera, which the group purchased for itself. A para-documentary position is typical for her films. It is based on an amateur approach to filming, captures authentic situations, which it combines with acted scenes, or places stylized characters in a directly real environment. In terms of genre, her films are straddled between grotesques, documentaries, video clips, comic horrors and essays. Thematically, it is based on the everyday experience of late socialism, it captures social and family rituals, public celebrations, amusement parks, or spending free time in general. Their female protagonists are typical underground film characters: strong and independent characters in a hopeless conflict with the surrounding society. In her case, it is almost exclusively female heroes who are the source of chaos leading to a tragic conclusion, or comic escapades. Pigi made twelve films between 1982 and 1986, which at the time of their creation were shown to a limited audience at underground shows and festivals. After 1989, they partially fell into oblivion and were shown again after their digital reconstruction at the Center for Audiovisual Studies of the Film and Television Faculty of the Academy of Performing Arts in Prague in 2015–2017. (edited google translate)

teaser to the screening of her films ↓
https://youtu.be/EveN_Vagkzs

[greennui]

Crimes of Passion 1984 Directed by Ken Russell
Manoel’s Destinies 1984 ‘Manoel dans l'île des merveilles’ Directed by Raúl Ruiz
Jungle Girl 1984 Directed by Richard Myers
Full Moon in Paris 1984 ‘Les Nuits de la pleine lune’ Directed by Éric Rohmer
Image Noise (Osmin’s Windows) 1984 ‘Bruits d'images aux fenêtres d'Osmin’ Directed by Jakobois
Virgin People 1984 Directed by Celso Ad. Castillo
The Brother from Another Planet 1984 Directed by John Sayles
Starman 1984 Directed by John Carpenter
The Double Face of Peter Lorre 1984 ‘Peter Lorre - Das doppelte Gesicht’ Directed by Harun Farocki,
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind 1984 ‘風の谷のナウシカ’ Directed by Hayao Miyazaki

Fountain of Dreams 1984 Directed by Jordan Belson
Thursday Afternoon 1984 Directed by Brian Eno
Red Shift 1984 Directed by Gunvor Nelson
Love Streams 1984 Directed by John Cassavetes
Paris, Texas 1984 Directed by Wim Wenders
Stop Making Sense 1984 Directed by Jonathan Demme
Night Has a Thousand Desires 1984 ‘Mil sexos tiene la noche’ Directed by Jesús Franco
Alphabet City 1984 Directed by Amos Poe
Near the Earth, Near the Forest 1984 ‘Nära jorden, nära skogen’ Directed by Nina Hedenius

[nrh]

Utsav (Girish Karnad)
Manoel's Destinies (Raul Ruiz)
Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark)
The Eight-Diagram Pole Fighter (Lau Kar-Leung)
Cherie (Patrick Tam)

Choose Me (Alan Rudolph)
Paar (Goutam Ghose)
Body Double (Brian de Palma)
Love on the Ground (Jacques Rivette)
Starman (John Carpenter)

The Crazy Family (Sogo Ishii)
The Tragedy of 'W' (Shinichiro Sawai)
Fine, with Occasional Murders (Kazuyuki Izutsu)
I'm Hungry, I'm Cold (Chantal Akerman)
Love Unto Death (Alain Resnais)

Vanishing Point (Raul Ruiz)
Miami Vice: Brother's Keeper
Saaransh (Mahesh Bhatt)
Stranger Than Paradise (Jim Jarmusch)
Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone)

the first tier are all time canon movies for me.

[karl]

the legend of princess olga (yuri ilyenko)
a summer at grandpa's (hou hsiao-hsien)
this is my country (lino brocka)
yellow earth (chen kaige)
face to face (adoor gopalakrishnan)
the holy innocents (mario camus)
year of the quiet sun (krzysztof zanussi)
the home and the world (satyajit ray)
my friend ivan lapshin (aleksey german)
a cruel romance (eldar ryazanov)
khandhar (mrinal sen)
fireflies in the north (shinoda masahiro)
voyage to cythera (theo angelopoulos)
when the tenth month comes (dang nhat minh)
oh, bloody life (peter bacso)
homecoming (yim ho)
the last glacier (jacques leduc & roger frappier)
park (rasim ogajov)
first graders (abbas kiarostami)
up in the cherry tree (mariana evstatieva-biolcheva)

I hope to be able to actually watch a few this month - too busy with moving recently - but if I don't that's a pretty good list I reckon.

[flip]

karl - my friend ivan lapshin is listed as a 1985 film on imdb and wikipedia (otherwise it would make my list for sure too)

[sally]

love unto death - resnais
love on the ground - rivette
voyage of a hand - ruiz
dirty story - donner
the cow's drama (bush)
favourites of the moon (iosseliani)
flight to berlin (petit)
who was edgar allen? (the only time i'm ever voting for haneke)
7 P., cuis., s.de b... (varda)
the willow tree (shahid saless)
vanishing point (ruiz)
barres (moullet)
in the old manor house or the independence of triangles (kotkowski)
wanderers of the desert (khemir)
karkalou (tornes)
class relations (straub/huillet)

[DT.]

Body Double (Brian De Palma)
Choose Me (Alan Rudolph)
The Cotton Club (Francis Ford Coppola)
Crimes of Passion (Ken Russell)
Full Moon in Paris (Eric Rohmer)
Heimat (Edgar Reitz)
Love Streams (John Cassavetes)
My First Wife (Paul Cox)
Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders)
Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark)
Strangler vs. Strangler (Slobodan Sijan)
Streets of Fire (Walter Hill)
Streetwise (Martin Bell)
Where the Green Ants Dream (Werner Herzog)
A Year of the Quiet Sun (Krzysztof Zanussi)
 
Want to watch:
 
Dorian Gray in the Mirror of the Yellow Press (Ulrike Ottinger)
The Element of Crime (Lars von Trier)
The Hit (Stephen Frears)
Maria’s Lovers (Andrei Konchalovsky)
A Passage to India (David Lean)
Repentance (Tengiz Abuladze)
Starman (John Carpenter)
A Sunday in the Country (Bertrand Tavernier)
Under the Volcano (John Huston)

[DT.]

flip - same with The Legend of Suram Fortress!

[rischka]

class relations amerikan horror story

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1543 ... KNAtvlMl5A

this turned out to be exactly the way to start the big holiday weekend

[rischka]

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1543 ... t8wCd5jEUg

i tried to link this one but i don't understand how anything works even after all these years on the internet

[Lencho of the Apes]

Preliminary like-ems:


American Dreams Lost And Found - Benning
A Cruel Romance - Ryazanov
Farewell To The Ark -
Gremlins - Dante
The Home And The World - Ray
Morituri -
Repo Man - Cox
Shanghai Blues - Tsui Hark
Stranger Than Paradise - Jarmusch
Wanderers Of The Desert - nacer Khemir

[wba]

This is one incredible year!! (Also the year of my birth ^^)

Looking on my old letterboxd list, I already have 30 masterpieces listed: https://letterboxd.com/wba/list/1984-1/

This will be very defficult to narrow down to a mere 20...

[wba]

Final List


1984 theme song for my list (must be played very loud) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG6-tszqSuw



Films seen: 90+



01. Reckless James Foley, USA)
02. Mannen från Mallorca "The Man from Majorca" (Bo Widerberg, Sweden/Denmark)
03. Baby (Uwe Frießner, West Germany)
04. La pirate "The Pirate" (Jacques Doillon, France)

05. Rolf "The Last Mercenary" (Mario Siciliano, Italy)
06. L'Année des méduses "Year of the Jellyfish" (Christopher Frank, France)
07. 風の谷のナウシカ "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind" (Hayao Miyazaki, Japan)
08. Pehlivan "The Wrestler" (Zeki Ökten, Turkey)

09. La femme publique "The Public Woman" (Andrzej Zulawski, France)
10. Euer Weg führt durch die Hölle "Jungle Warriors" (Ernst Ritter von Theumer/Billy Fine, West Germany/Mexico)
11. The Terminator (James Cameron, USA)
12. Final Mission (Cirio H. Santiago, USA/Philippines)

13. Missing in Action (Joseph Zito, USA)
14. Klassenverhältnisse "Class Relations" (Danièle Huillet/Jean-Marie Straub, West Germany/France)
15. Places in the Heart (Robert Benton, USA)
16. Supergirl (Jeannot Szwarc, UK/USA)

17. 五郎八卦棍 "The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter" (Kar-leung Lau, Hong Kong)
18. Streets of Fire (Walter Hill, USA)
19. Children of the Corn (Fritz Kiersch, USA)
20. 冬冬的假期 "A Summer at Grandpa's" (Hsiao-Hsien Hou, Taiwan)

[wba]

PS: All 20 are all time canon movies for me. The first 2 even from my Top 50.

[karl]

Thanks for headsup on Lapshin, Trotsky. I'll replace it with somethin.

Lots I'd like to see this year - though I thought the same about the previous few years and all this international-transfer business of late has kept me from seeing much of anything except for something a coupla weeks back that a friend insisted I watch called What Is a Woman? where a bearded chap goes round asking the title question to people who have trouble answering it (the motherland, she just gets crazier and crazier): A Romance in Philately, The Runner, Terence Davies Trilogy, Kaos, Kindergarten, The Four Seasons, Alias Baby Tsina, Dead Souls (if I can stand those Mosfilm Youtube subtitles!), On the Hunting Ground, the two Wu Tian-ming films, I Love Mary (Hou Hsiao-hsien attempting to speak English!), Man of Principle, Leila and the Wolves, Dreams of the City, Ruth, Dangerous Charm, list goes on and on. And what the hell's wrong with the response system on this site these days?

Oh, hey, Trotsky, I've just now noticed that Marlen Khutsiyev's EPILOGUE and Tengiz Abuladze's REPENTANCE are 1984 on IMDb, if not on Letterboxd, so I'll slap both those on the final and nix Lapshin and Up in the Cherry Tree (which is cute, but no great shakes).

[rischka]

(the motherland, she just gets crazier and crazier)

don't blame the women please

[karl]

I think there's enough blame to go around.

[St. Gloede]

I'll do it in sets of 5 this time:

Paris, Texas (1984, Wim Wenders)
Öszi almanach / Almanac of Fall (1984, Béla Tarr)
Les nuits de la pleine lune / Full Moon in Paris (1984, Eric Rohmer)
Angyali üdvözlet / The Annunciation (1984, András Jeles)
Decoder (1984, Muscha)

Te rongyos élet / Oh, Bloody Life (1984, Péter Bacsó)
Amadeus (1984, Milos Forman)
Klassenverhältnisse / Class Relations (1984, Danièle Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub)
Stranger Than Paradise (1984, Jim Jarmusch)
¿Qué he hecho yo para merecer esto? / What Have I Done to Deserve This? (1984, Pedro Almodóvar)

Davandeh /The Runner (1984, Amir Naderi)
Huang tu di / Yellow Earth (1984, Kaige Chen)
Kaze no tani no Naushika / Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Secret Honor (1984, Robert Altman)
Ghare-Baire / The Home and the World (1984, Satyajit Ray)

Tasio (1984, Montxo Armendáriz)
The Image of Dorian Gray in the Yellow Press (1984, Ulrike Ottinger)
Bao gio cho den thang muoi / When the Tenth Month Comes (1984, Nhat Minh Dang)
Ambavi Suramis tsikhitsa / The Legend of Suram Fortress (1984, Sergei Parajanov)
Monanieba (1984, Tengiz Abuladze)

[rischka]

i'm sure the fascists would prefer the term 'fatherland' anyway

i will watch nina hedenius today, it's been on my desktop forever

[rischka]

the cat fisherman was the best

[sally]

experiments in film by brian connelly

there's very little non-professional home movie stuff on bfi for 1984 (guess at this point everyone was just saving up the footage to catch bloopers and send them into the tv clip shows) so guess this'll have to do

[Holdrüholoheuho]

FEELINGS (Todd Solondz)

A sensitive youth despairs, as he cannot endure life without his beloved.

This short film, Feelings (1984), is a strange look into the life of a youth who cannot live without his beloved, so he chooses suicide to escape the pain. Jan Meredith plays himself–an estranged teen who walks a nearby beach to seek respite from his lover’s departure. The song “Feelings” plays eerily in the background. Feelings is the story of this teen trying to deal with sadness. As he sings, “Woah, oh, oh feelings,” he tries to express his emotions through drawings, songs, and reflection. He draws a frowning face in the sand and stares longingly at the water. His final stop is on the edge of the rocks at the shoreline. After jumping, a woman rushes over to see if she can save him, but it’s too late. The film’s closing image is Jan Meredith in an angel costume, indicating that the boy has killed himself.

however, according to the other source it is Todd who kills himself (not Jan)...
(oh, the world of cinema is so complex and the tender feelings are so confusing!)

Feelings is a two and a half minute movie made as an NYU film school assignment in 1984. Solondz himself takes the lead role of a sensitive young man who finds he can no longer endure life without his beloved (Jan Meredith).

https://youtu.be/9m0Wte9Kk1w

[rischka]

i watched the man from mallorca - pretty good thriller in the french connection mode. 2 rogue cops won't stop investigating a politically sensitive robbery

[karl]

Ack, just noticed that Mukhamukham (Face to Face) by Adoor Gopalakrishnan is 1985 on IMDb.

But there's this, from Hong Kong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45P6Pys ... D%E9%B3%A5

and this, one from Soviet Azerbaijan (which are uncommonly subtitled):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVi2Q6 ... FILMLATORS

[sally]

YES! WINDOW MOVIE! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

bruits d'images aux fenêtres d'osmin - jakobois

well, either it's a window movie or an epileptic fit. either way, notably correct use of birds.

thanks greennui for link: https://lightcone.org/en/film-747-bruit ... es-d-osmin

due to the nature of the film screenshots are some kind of anathema of representation - i'd be better off posting any random image found in the outer world than those precisely excised from the jakobois creation, but i'm not feeling google-y enough tonight so:






although since this fella is gonna give me nightmares, maybe it's best fixing him in place here where he can't stalk under my pillow

[rischka]

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1545 ... nAwB0PpUhA

the home and the world. what lencho said about merchant-ivory.