1986 Poll 2.0

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1986 Poll 2.0

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Choose your favourite films from 1986 (according to IMDB).

Each person can vote for up to 20 films. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number.

Twenty-film ballots can be formatted as follows:
- Five tiers of four films each, 4/4/4/4/4; scored 5-4-3-2-1 pts/film/tier
- Four tiers of five films each, 5/5/5/5; scored 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5 pts/film/tier
- Two tiers of ten films each, 10/10; scored 4-2 pts/film/tier
- No tiers, unranked; scored 3 pts/film
- A 20-film three-tier ballot is not possible as yet (pending revision of the present scoring system)

A tiered ballot can include less than 20 films, but in that case the total number of films must still be able to be factored by the number of tiers, so:
- A five tier ballot can include only 20, 15, 10, or 5 films
- A four tier ballot can include only 20, 16, 12, 8, or 4 films
- A three tier ballot (scored 5-3-1) can include only 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films
- A two tier ballot can include only 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, or 2 films
- Ballots that are 19, 17, 13, 11, 7 or 1 films must be no tiers (in the present scoring system)

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible, so that others can use them for recommendations. You may revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline. Ballots posted by new members who have not participated in other parts of the forum will be considered on a case-by-case basis, and are not guaranteed inclusion on the final list.

Deadline for 1986 lists will be Friday, December 31st at around midnight EST.
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Shadows in Paradise (Aki Kaurismäki)
Castle in the Sky (Hayao Miyazaki)
In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal (Pierre Clementi)
The Terrorizers (Edward Yang)
In a Glass Cage (Agustí Villaronga)

Hovering Over the Water (Joao Cesar Monteiro)
Treasure island (Raul Ruiz)
Manhunter (Michael Mann)
Max mon amour (Nagisa Oshima)
Gothic (Ken Russell)

The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer)
Budapest Portrait (Memories of a City) (Peter Hutton)
Rosa la Rose, Public Girl (Paul Vecchiali)
The Rose King (Werner Schrowter)
Amorosa (Mai Zetterling)

Joan Does Dynasty (Joan Braderman)
Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman)
Maine Ocean (Jacques Rozier)
Greece: The Hidden War (Anthony Howard)
'The Satin Spider (Jacques Baratier)
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The Adventure of Faustus Bidgood (Andy and Michael Jones)
The Terrorizers (Ed Yang)
Ginger and Fred (Federico Fellini)
At Close Range (James Foley)

The Rose King (Werner Schroeter)
The Pointsman (Jos Stelling)
Ruthless People (Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry Zucker)
The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky)

The Door (Nina Shorina)
The Tenants (Dariush Mehrjui)
Maison Ikkoku (Shin'ichiro Sawai)
Landscape Suicide (James Benning)

Power (Sidney Lumet)
Betty Blue (Jean-Jacques Beineix)
The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer)
Om (John Smith)

Clockwise (Christopher Morahan)
A Traffic Controller on Crossroads (Che Phun Ki)
The Name of the Rose (Jean-Jacques Annaud)
Manhunter (Michael Mann)
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35 years later and i am still filled with total, utter contempt towards jennifer connelly for turning the goblin king down. bowie in lycra or waspy baby shit? wrong choice luv! still outraged.


la fine - the end (patrick keiller)
mammame - (raúl ruiz)
mélo (alain resnais)
guard me, my talisman (roman balayan)
bell diamond (jon jost)
comrades (bill douglas)
maine-ocean express (jacques rozier)
budapest portrait (memories of a city) (peter b hutton)
time (péter gothár)
my case (manoel de oliveira)
life is a dream - (raúl ruiz)
heilt hitler! (herbert achternbusch)
the pied piper (jiří barta)
moments of play - (jørgen leth)
allegory (kostas sfikas)
faubourg st martin (jean-claude guiguet)
labyrinth (jim henson)
dead man's letters (konstantin lopushansky)
shadows in paradise (aki kaurismäki)
kin-dza-dza! (georgiy daneliya)

to watch:
the satin spider
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My prelims feel pretty basic. Oh well.

Mostly these
Blue Velvet - Lynch
The Fly - Cronenberg
Redondo - Raul Busteros
Sid And Nancy - Cox
Street Of Crocodiles - Quay Quay

but also these
El Cafre - Gilberto Gazcon
Down By Law - Jarmusch
From Beyond -
Gothic - russell
His Motorbike Her Island
El Imperio De La Fortuna - Ripstein
Max Mon Amour - Oshima
Mommy Mommy Where's My Brain - Jon Moritsugu
Orinoco - Julian Pastor
River's Edge - Hunter
Seven Women, Seven Sins
Sleepwalk - Sara Driver
True Stories - Byrne
The opposite of 'reify' is... ?
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1986 was an excellent year for cinema, and as it appears from my list, a very strong year for French-language cinema:

À l'ombre de la canaille bleue / In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal (1986, Pierre Clémenti)
Le rayon vert / The Green Ray (1986, Eric Rohmer)
Blue Velvet (1986, David Lynch)
Thérèse (1986, Alain Cavalier)

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986, John McNaughton)
Jean de Florette (1986, Claude Berri)
Tenue de soirée / Ménage (1986, Bertrand Blier)
Le lieu du crime / Scene of the Crime (1986, André Téchiné)

Mauvais sang (1986, Leos Carax)
Rosa Luxemburg (1986, Margarethe von Trotta)
Maine Ocean (1986, Jacques Rozier)
Le Déclin de l'empire américain / The Decline of the American Empire (1986, Denys Arcand)

Sarraounia (1986, Med Hondo)
Grandeur et décadence d'un petit commerce de cinéma (1986, Jean-Luc Godard)
Offret (1986, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Sid and Nancy (1986, Alex Cox)

Kin-Dza-Dza (1986, Georgi Daneliya)
Mammame (1986, Raoul Ruiz)
Kong bu fen zi / The Terrorisers (1986, Edward Yang)
Ningen no yakusoku / A Promise (1986, Yoshishige Yoshida)
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peking opera blues
castle in the sky
dead man's letters
the terrorizers
mauvais sang
comrades
the sea and poison
shadows in paradise
a flor do mar/hovering over the water
krysar/the pied piper
mixup ou meli-melo
a better tomorrow
mammame
golden eighties
jean de florette/manon of the spring
forest of bliss
his motorbike, her island
der rosenkonig
the horse thief
in the shadow of the blue rascal

there's 20 but i have quite a few things to watch so...we'll see how long i can stand the 80s :p
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okay had a proper investigation of my unseens and 1986 actually looks great, so many bonkers sounding films...

there's even some appropriate xmas movies, the main one being an alan ayckbourn tv movie which i will definitely be watching (season's greetings) and pupi avati's christmas present (incidentally almost every 1986 film i looked at on letterboxd had been reviewed by felipe furtado, big year for him)

also the director of my favourite xmas movie (santa claus is a piece of shit) has a non-xmas one in 1986 and it looks so excruciatingly bad that i will also watch it (twist again in moscow starring philippe noiret)

and not gonna get to this probably but the poster is great:

(apple tree of paradise)

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Shadows in Paradise (Aki Kaurismäki, 1986)
Mauvais sang (Leos Carax, 1986)
Something Wild (Jonathan Demme, 1986)

Down by Law (Jim Jarmusch, 1986)
Crimes of the Heart (Bruce Beresford, 1986)
"From the Reports of Security Guards & Patrol Services – Part Eight" (Helke Sander, 1986)

Ethnic Notions (Marlon Riggs, 1986)
She's Gotta Have It (Spike Lee, 1986)
The Adventure of Faustus Bidgood (Andy Jones/Michael Jones, 1986)

"Fake Fruit Factory" (Chick Strand, 1986)
The Green Ray (Éric Rohmer, 1986)
Castle in the Sky (Hayao Miyazaki, 1986)
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Jean de Florette (Claude Berri)
O Melissokomos (Theodoros Angelopoulos)
Il diavolo in corpo (Marco Bellocchio)
Kronika wypadków miłosnych (Andrzej Wajda)
Kuryer (Karen Shakhnazarov)

The Terrorizers (Edward Yang)
Manon des sources (Claude Berri)
'Je vous salue, Marie' (Jean-Luc Godard)
40 Quadratmeter Deutschland (Tevfik Baser)
Srecna nova '49 (Stole Popov)

Shadows in Paradise (Aki Kaurismaki)
Vermischte Nachrichten (Alexander Kluge)
The Fly (David Cronenberg)
Détective (Jean-Luc Godard)
Matador (Pedro Almodovar)

Egészséges erotika (Péter Tímár)
The Color of Money (Martin Scorsese)
Les fugitifs (Francis Veber)
Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen)
Blue Velvet (David Lynch)
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The Adventures of Faustus Bidgood (Andy Jones)
Bell Diamond (Jon Jost)
Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen)
His Motorbike, Her Island (Nobuhiko Obayashi)
Mauvais Sang (Leos Carax)
Modern Girls (Jerry Kramer)
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan)
Othello (Franco Zeffirelli)
The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (Leonard Nimoy)
The Terrorizers (Edward Yang)

Want to watch:

The Beekeeper (Theo Angelopoulos)
Boris Godunov (Sergei Bondarchuk)
Down by Law (Jim Jarmusch)
The Fringe Dwellers (Bruce Beresford)
The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer)
Kin-dza-dza! (Georgiy Daneliya)
Something Wild (Jonathan Demme)
True Stories (David Byrne)
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ballot... https://www.kinometer.com/?list=389

Apologies (Anne Charlotte Robertson)
RocketKitKongoKit (Craig Baldwin)
Aus den Algen (Schmelzdahin)
Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman)
The Green Ray (Éric Rohmer)
In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal (Pierre Clémenti)
Tarot (Rudolf Thome)
The Rose King (Werner Schroeter)
Max My Love (Nagisa Ôshima)
Budapest Portrait (Memories of a City) (Peter Hutton)

Stirling: Three Museums (Michael Blackwood)
Seven Women, Seven Sins (Chantal Akerman, Maxi Cohen, Valie Export, Laurence Gavron, Bette Gordon, Ulrike Ottinger, Helke Sander)
Artificial Paradise (Chick Strand)
Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland)
Looking For The Moon (Moira Sweeney)
He Stands in the Desert Counting the Seconds of His Life (Jonas Mekas)
The Queen Is Dead: A Film by Derek Jarman (Derek Jarman)
I'm Not the Girl Who Misses Much (Pipilotti Rist)
Joan Does Dynasty (Joan Braderman, Manuel De Landa)
Kubula and Kuba Kubikula (Zdeněk Smetana)

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in the last few yrs, logged (5!)...
THE QUEEN IS DEAD: A FILM BY DEREK JARMAN (Derek Jarman) :!:
THE ROSE KING (Werner Schroeter) :!:
DER TRIP (Schmelzdahin)
ONKELSCHROMPEL (Schmelzdahin)
E.R. (Schmelzdahin)
SITUS WIE JOD ISET AB ERNID (Schmelzdahin)
AUS DEN ALGEN (Schmelzdahin) :!:
DER EMPFINDLICHE (Schmelzdahin)
HIS MOTORBIKE, HER ISLAND (Nobuhiko Ôbayashi)
ADVENTURES OF THE LITTLE PENGUIN LOLO (Kenji Yoshida, Gennadiy Sokolskiy)
STIRLING: THREE MUSEUMS (Michael Blackwood) :!:
THE SNOWMAN’S DREAM (Zdeněk Rozkopal)
THE GREEN RAY (Éric Rohmer) :!:
LITTLE DECOMPOSED FILM (Paolo Gioli)
KRAKATAU (Mariusz Grzegorzek)
PERILS (Abigail Child)
OM (John Smith)
PEGGY'S BLUE SKYLIGHT (Joyce Wieland)
STAMMHEIM - THE BAADER-MEINHOF GANG ON TRIAL (Reinhard Hauff)
BUDAPEST PORTRAIT (MEMORIES OF A CITY) (Peter Hutton)
AXILIAD (Witold Leszczynski)
2ND WAR HATS (Henri Plaat)
VIDEO POSTCARDS (Robert Cahen)
PASCAL - GÖDEL (Mara Mattuschka)
AMOROSA (Mai Zetterling)
HOVERING OVER THE WATER (João César Monteiro)
ALLEGORY (Kostas Sfikas)

in a more distant past (that i can still recall), watched (6!)...
RECAOS (Eduardo Kac)
TESÃO (Eduardo Kac)
COFFEE AND CIGARETTES (Jim Jarmusch)
BIRDS AT SUNRISE (Joyce Wieland) :!:
KEYWORDS - IMPACT IMAGES. AN INTERVIEW WITH VILÉM FLUSSER (Harun Farocki)
FAKE FRUIT FACTORY (Chick Strand)
ROCKETKITKONGOKIT (Craig Baldwin) :!:
THE PIED PIPER OF HAMELIN (Jiří Barta)
KUBULA AND KUBA KUBIKULA (Zdeněk Smetana) :!:
AS GOOD AS POISON (Vít Olmer)
MENU TOTAL (Christoph Schlingensief)
DEAD MAN'S LETTERS (Konstantin Lopushansky)
QUIET HAPPINESS (Dušan Hanák)
A GOOD LIGHT (Karel Kachyňa)
FORBIDDEN DREAMS (Karel Kachyňa)
IT’S NOT ME (Václav Vorlíček)
SHADES OF FERN (František Vláčil)
CUCKOO IN A DARK FOREST (Antonín Moskalyk)
MAX MY LOVE (Nagisa Ôshima) :!:
OCTOPUSES FROM THE SECOND FLOOR (Jindřich Polák)
CROCODILE DUNDEE (Peter Faiman)
TOP GUN (Tony Scott)
NINE 1/2 WEEKS (Adrian Lyne)
GOLDEN EIGHTIES (Chantal Akerman) :!:
SEVEN WOMEN, SEVEN SINS (Chantal Akerman, Maxi Cohen, Valie Export, Laurence Gavron, Bette Gordon, Ulrike Ottinger, Helke Sander) :!:
BLUE VELVET (David Lynch)
HEILT HITLER! (Herbert Achternbusch)
MARRIED WITH CHILDREN (Various)
YES, PRIME MINISTER (Sydney Lotterby, Peter Whitmore)

watched for the poll (9!)...
NIGHT MUSIC (Stan Brakhage)
O PRINCEZNĚ FURIENĚ (Nina Čampulková)
I'M NOT THE GIRL WHO MISSES MUCH (Pipilotti Rist) :!:
LOOKING FOR THE MOON (Moira Sweeney) :!:
5/ ROPE DANCE (Raimund Krumme)
JOAN DOES DYNASTY (Joan Braderman, Manuel De Landa) :!:
BUTTERFLY (Nam June Paik)
HE STANDS IN THE DESERT COUNTING THE SECONDS OF HIS LIFE (Jonas Mekas) :!:
APOLOGIES (Anne Charlotte Robertson) :!:
10/ IN THE SHADOW OF THE BLUE RASCAL (Pierre Clémenti) :!:
THE MORO AFFAIR (Giuseppe Ferrara)
BABUBA (Rock Ross)
BLOOD SKY (Michael Mazière)
ARTIFICIAL PARADISE (Chick Strand) :!:
15/ TAROT (Rudolf Thome) :!:
BERLIN BLUE (Hartmut Jahn)
BUDAPEST PORTRAIT (MEMORIES OF A CITY) (Peter Hutton) :!:

watchlist...
THE AMAZING VOYAGE OF GUSTAVE FLAUBERT AND RAYMOND ROUSSEL (Steve Fagin)
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The Green Ray (Rohmer)
Betty Blue (Beineix)
Hannah and Her Sisters (Allen)
Blue Velvet (Lynch)
Something Wild (Demme)
Down by Law (Jarmusch)
The Sacrifice (Tarkovsky)
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i used to think the eighties a rather lousy decade for films, when it was really only a lousy decade for american films.

china and taiwan this year, oh my. the contenders:

dust in the wind
the sacrifice
the mosquito coast (a very old favorite and still i think spot on as a depiction of a certain type of american male mindset)
trial on the road (alexei german) (made in '71, released in '86)
quiet happiness (dušan hanák)
the photograph (nikos papatakis)
tree without leaves (shindo kaneto)
chronicle of amorous accidents (andrzej wajda)
sacrificed youth (zhang nuanxin)
report to mother (john abraham)
the terrorizers
horse thief
the last day of winter (wu ziniu)
ticket (im kwon-taek)
gilsoddeum (im kwon-taek)
final take: the golden age of the movies (yamada yoji)
i remember you (ali khamraev)
berri's pagnol films
the first woman in the forest (wang junzheng)
in the wild mountains (yan xueshu)
a good woman (huang jianzhong)
happy homecoming, comrade (lefteris xanthopoulos)
...and the pursuit of happiness (louis malle)
the beekeeper
the birds sang in a tranquil place (viet linh)
the stray, white & speckled (sergei solovyov)
courier (karen shakhnazarov)
guard me, my talisman (roman balayan)
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those interested in obscure movies directed by women might enjoy the following. subs are imperfect to say the least for the first, and quality lousy for the other two:

the birds sang in a tranquil place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7KQSzWH9T0

and

sacrificed youth, in two parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHNjRFcp6rU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WCDbX0L5g

and

the first woman in the forest, in two parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yT5asetV-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzSepyemZ4
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Weird year, some initial possibilitiea in two tiers:

Nanou
Melo
Shadows in Paradise
The Magic Braid
The Pied Piper
The Horse Thief
River's Edge
Sid and Nancy
Down By Law
From Beyond
Children of a Lesser God
Gonza the Spearman
Matador
Peking Opera Blues
Big Trouble in Little China
Golden Eighties
Gothic
'round Midnight
The Fly
The Green Ray
The Terrorizers
Nomads
Mosquito Coast
El amor brujo
Texas Chainsaw Masscre II
Sunday in the Park with George
Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer
Poison for the Fairies
Inhumanoids: The Movie
Windaria
Decline of the American Empire
Rosa Luxemburg
Martial Arts of Shaolin
Kin Dza Dza!
A Better Tomorrow
Manhunter
My Chauffeur

Mona Lisa
Something Wild
Sweet Liberty
Betty Blue
The Mission
Caravaggio
Aliens
Street of Crocodiles
Max Mon Amour
Link
The Sacrifice
She's Gotta Have It
Two Friends
Castle in the Sky
52 Pickup
Aliens
Peggy Sue Got Married
Rope Dance
The Millionaire's Express
Working Girls
Kamikaze Hearts
Maison Ikkoku
King Kong Lives
Deadly Friend
The Hitcher
Absolute Beginners
At Close Range
Fire with Fire
The Boy in Blue
Raw Head Rex
Blue Velvet
Salvador
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Looking at the movies I've seen, one theme for the year seems to offer something of a battle between conformity and non-comformity, often playing out as a quasi-romance, but sometimes more bluntly. There's definitely a sense of trying to come to terms with the effects of the Thatcher/Reagan years and rebellion, often referenced as "punk" or some other "radical" aesthetic, in the US/Uk films from the time, where the tendency is largely to try and reconcile the two, leading towards a kind of unhappy compromise, but with some films pushing more strongly one way or the other, mostly towards conformity. That this seems to often play out in romances is kind of interesting, especially when the trend in presenting character/acting is at a moment of some freedom for the actor and focus on character, leading to films where the "theme" is perhaps not contradicted by performance, but altered or expanded in some ways and where there are some formal attempts to push a different kind of tension that doesn't so much reconcile the issue as try to find a way to show both things at the same time.

You can see this in Sid and Nancy and Blue Velvet most notably, but there's something of it in things like Pretty in Pink, Absolute Beginners, Legal Eagles, River's Edge, Something Wild, Peggy Sue Got Married, At Close Range,Nobody's Fool, and Nomads among a number of others (and then you have Link and Max mon amour, which, well, two movies about monkey love in the same year is sure something, three I guess if you want to count King Kong Lives). Then you have the direct presentation of a more politicized duality in things like Platoon and The Mission, outre challenges to convention with Texas Chainsaw Masscre II, Gothic, and From Beyond, and from an opposing direction, True Stories and Down By Law, some movies taking it more head on, like Dogs in Space or the docs like X the Unheard Music for punk, or Working Girls and Kamikaze Hearts for sex workers (and stuff like Vamp, 9 1/2 Weeks and The Men's Club that, um, shows the other side?), Children of a Lesser God mixes feminism with disability, while Violets are Blue suggests maybe women wanted too much, Soul Man, Hoosiers, Wildcats, Gung Ho, and Crossroads solve that pesky racial divide for us, While Color of Money, Nothing in Common, Back to School, That's Life tackle the all important men growing old but still wanting to feel young issue for generational comforting.

Those are some initial takes that can be fleshed out more and/or matched perhaps with movies from further afield that are hitting some similar notes but from different perspectives, like The Fly, The Terrorizers, Rosa Luxemburg, Mona Lisa, 'round Midnight and so on, and I'm sure there's more to dig into when looking at things I haven't seen or haven't caught my eye yet, and I'm sure some of my assessment is debatable too, but I thought I'd offer it as something to maybe think about for anyone wanting to dig into the year.

Oh, and one more maybe interesting thing, the '80s in general started to focus more on the teen audience which is why there were so many teen oriented romances and dramas in '86 as that trend grew throughout the decade, as did the amount of horror films, often cheap, that were aimed at teen/young adult audiences and accompanied the boom in VHS rentals. The decade started with, according to the not always genre reliable Letterboxd around 200 horror films released, that went up a bit to 220ish, then declined before returning to 220ish in '86 but almost doubling that number by the end of the decade with over 400 released in both '88 and '89. WHile tracking the other teen oriented movies is more difficult, the horror genre seems to be the one that really took off, which may say something about the success in reconciling young people to the era.
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greg x wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:51 am Looking at the movies I've seen, one theme for the year seems to offer something of a battle between conformity and non-comformity, often playing out as a quasi-romance
i haven't looked at the years either side but from scrolling through all the 1986 films available to me from my most extensive source (possibly kg looks very different, who knows?) it seemed like it was at least 50% 'adult' movies (pretty impressive how many ways japan can come up with titles to describe 'schoolgirl gets raped') i guess VHS was comfortably ubiquitous in 1986? (i think we got ours in 1983 but can't really remember)
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Yeah, in the States VHS was a big thing by '86, video stores were growing rapidly, Blockbuster had opened just the year before, and the "adult" industry was booming as they figured out how little money they really needed to spend now that they could shoot on tape and didn't even need to worry about being "real movies" anymore. (It's still amusing to remember, and kind of hard for some to believe, the early days of adult films when some major publications sent their front line film critics to cover things like Deep Throat for a brief spell.)
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japan was a weird case where theatrically screened, relatively high budget adult movies survived into the 2000s even while the shadier direct to video industry quietly boomed. i don't know too much about this period of the genre but it seems pretty poor overall, a few interesting things like the takashi ishii written saya or hisayasu sato's somber double suicide movie "save the last dance" but otherwise calcifying into sleaze.

one funny thing about pink films is that later video distributors would often pick alternate sleazy titles for movies that would go on to become the standard, so you'd get an arty film about urban alienation called something like "the cicada's desolate hymn" retitled "schoolgirl train orgy," despite having neither orgies, schoolgirls, nor trains.

edit - and after typing that i see that sato's save the last dance was retitled office lady rape: disgrace!, despite having neither office ladies nor rape.
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He Stands in a Desert Counting the Seconds of His Life
Hovering Over the Water
Maine-Ocean Express
Terrorizers

Bound for the Fields, the Mountains, and the Seacoast
Dust in the Wind
The Fly
The Green Ray

Aliens
Hannah and Her Sisters
Mauvais Sang
My Case

Castle in the Sky
Down by Law
Gilsoddeum
Shadows in Paradise
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Blue Velvet (David Lynch)
The Mission (Roland Joffe)
The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky)
Platoon (Oliver Stone)
Salvador (Oliver Stone)
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Caravaggio (Derek Jarman)
The Name of the Rose (Jean-Jacques Annaud)
Aliens (James Cameron)
The Fly (David Cronenberg)
Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen)
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Ginger and Fred (Federico Fellini)
The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri)
Stand by Me (Rob Reiner)
The Horse Thief (Zhuangzhuang Tian)
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Manhunter (Michael Mann)
Mona Lisa (Dir. Neil Jordan)
The Decline of the American Empire(Denys Arcand)
Dead Man's Letters (Konstantin Lopushanskiy)
'Round Midnight (Bertrand Tavernier)

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yeah it's the only rozier i can get on board with so far!


right and so in fact half the japanese films i scrolled past in a hurry might not actually be misogynist garbage? not sure i've really got the time to figure out what's worth watching (i've pencilled in yoshida, but not anything else)

i watched jacques baratier's l'araignée de satin. i know breillat was involved but a man writing & directing female on female desire? fuck off. also am reading slogging through anti-oedipus (yes, decades too late for it to be relevant or even that interesting) and absolutely anything freud/jung/lacan related right now is way way way too much.

also watched 'schlagworte - schlagbilder. ein gespräch mit vilém flusser' and basically sitting in a cafe with farocki & flusser pointing at stuff and talking about it, is the dream.

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the miyazaki is very good but the year really belongs to nobuhiko obayashi; his motorcycle, her island is great and bound for the fields, the mountains and the seacost is maybe even better.

how great a year did acacio de almeida have? shot a flo do mar, maine ocean, mammane, treasure island, portuguese farewell, and another ruiz called dans un miroir that barely seems to exist?

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his motorcycle, her island
I was boggled to see that movie on the first page of the year's films when sorted by popularity on Letterboxd. When and how did it get that kind of, relative, attention?
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greg x wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:42 pm
his motorcycle, her island
I was boggled to see that movie on the first page of the year's films when sorted by popularity on Letterboxd. When and how did it get that kind of, relative, attention?
it was a buzz at film twitter i think. i've got bound for the fields, etc to watch also. i was unaware of obayashi's work beyond House which really wasn't my thing when i saw it years ago, in spite of a great cat role.

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greg x wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:42 pm
his motorcycle, her island
I was boggled to see that movie on the first page of the year's films when sorted by popularity on Letterboxd. When and how did it get that kind of, relative, attention?
there was a general surge of interest in obayashi following a big nyc retro that he attended, the release of his final films, and his death, but his motorcycle got pushed very seriously by a small group of smart (largely queer) young film writers across a bunch of different platforms. one of those rare moments when social media engagement "works" in a very positive way.

edit - if anyone is interested in bound for the fields watch the black and white version!
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