SCFZ Sight & Sound Poll 2022

[wba]

How about we do our own Sight & Sound Poll?

What are YOUR 10 most important, significant, best, whatever films of all time?

Please post your Top 10!!!!

The same you would have submitted had Sight & Sound asked you!





Will VERTIGO topple CITIZEN KANE on SCFZ as well? We'll find out soon...

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EDIT: as this might not appear quite clear from the above information: only post 10 (read: ten) films, TV episodes, advertisements, music clips, Youtube-Videos, TikTok videos, film series episodes, etc. So for example there should be NO Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Les Vampires, Tih Minh, The Perils of Pauline, Dr. Mabuse the Gambler, Die Nibelungen, 47 Ronin (Mizoguchi), Heimat, The Decalogue, Kill Bill, Lord of the Rings, The Human Condition, The Cremaster Cycle, Berlin Alexanderplatz (Fassbinder), Godfather I+II, Twin Peaks, several Bugs Bunny Cartoons, several Coca-Cola ads,a number of installations, a number of interconnected TikTok posts, etc. grouped into one slot.
If several "parts of one" / "parts that belong together" / "parts that are actually one long film" are really so dear to your heart you can use as many of the 10 available slots for them as you wish. The whole point of the endeavour is to limit yourself - not to find out how much stuff you love you can squeeze into 10 slots.
DO NOT GROUP THINGS TOGETHER IN ONE SLOT, please. Thank you very much.

[wba]

Here's the list I would have submitted to S&S, consisting of the 10 most important films in film history that completely changed the way we think about cinema.


Rabu retâ "Love Letter"
Seijun Suzuki, Japan 1958

Kanojo to kare "She and He"
Susumu Hani, Japan 1963

Suna no ue no shokubutsu-gun "Flora on the Sand"
Kô Nakahira, Japan 1964

Häschen in der Grube "Run, Rabbit, Run"
Roger Fritz, West Germany 1969

Le Mans
Lee H. Katzin, USA 1971

(Maruhi) shikijô mesu ichiba "Secret Chronicle: She Beast Market"
Noboru Tanaka, Japan 1974

Tenshi no harawata: Akai kyôshitsu "Angel Guts: Red Classroom"
Chûsei Sone, Japan 1978

Das zweite Gesicht "Second Sight"
Dominik Graf, West Germany 1982

Breathless
Jim McBride, USA 1983

Top Model
Joe D'Amato, Italy 1987

[Cinephile]

Thanks, I have tried deleting it, however, that option disappeared several minutes after posting, so, could you please kindly insturct me? Thanks.

As I'm not a moderator or administrator on this site, but just a regular user like you, I can't help you there. You can still edit any post you make though.
For example this "." is also enough for a posting to appear as a posting on this site.

PS: I've also edited my initial post to make it clearer, what is required in this thread.

Many thanks, I replaced all my posts here with a single dot, hopefully, a moderator/administrator will delete them all plus this one soon enough.

[wba]

Thanks, I have tried deleting it, however, that option disappeared several minutes after posting, so, could you please kindly insturct me? Thanks.

As I'm not a moderator or administrator on this site, but just a regular user like you, I can't help you there. You can still edit any post you make though.
For example this "." is also enough for a posting to appear as a posting on this site.

PS: I've also edited my initial post to make it clearer, what is required in this thread.

Many thanks, I replaced all my posts here with a single dot, hopefully, a moderator/administrator will delete them all plus this one soon enough.

Thank you!
I also did this.

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

A fun idea! We could create a list of them all at the end. A ranked list wouldn't mean much with such few ballots, but a collated list of all our favs would be neat.

Here's mine, as it struck me this morning with my coffee:

1. Le départ d'Arlequin et de Pierrette (Alice Guy, 1900)
2. Die Austernprinzessin (Ernst Lubitsch, 1919)
3. Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
4. Hold Your Man (Sam Wood, 1933)
5. One-Horse Farmers (Gus Meins, 1934)
6. The Silver Bullet (Joseph H. Lewis, 1942)
7. Anne of the Indies (Jacques Tourneur, 1951)
8. The Man from Planet X (Edgar G. Ulmer, 1951)
9. Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
10. Murder at the Gallop (George Pollock, 1963)

[wba]

Thanks a lot, Evelyn!

Yeah, a final chronological list with all films mentioned might be fun at the end. (One could put in bracktes after each film if it got numerous votes: e.g. "(x3)")
But who knows, maybe we will get a lot of ballots?

[Silga]

Not entirely my Top 10 of All Time, but I think my ballot for this particular poll would look something like this:

2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
Sunset Blvd. (Billy Wilder, 1950)
12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957)
The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968)
The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
L'Atalante (Jean Vigo, 1934)
Network (Sidney Lumet, 1976)
Lawrence of Arabia (David Lean, 1962)
Fargo (Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, 1996)

[brian d]

probably the same list i would have had for the past five or six years...

Our Hospitality (Buster Keaton, John Blystone, 1923)
Finis Terrae (Jean Epstein, 1929)
The Masseurs and a Woman (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1938)
Subida al cielo (Luis Buñuel, 1952)
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (Sergei Parajanov, 1965)
Medea (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1969)
A River Called Titash (Ritwik Ghatak, 1973)
Céline and Julie Go Boating (Jacques Rivette, 1974)
Duvidha (Mani Kaul, 1975)
À Flor do Mar (João César Monteiro, 1986)

[flip]

i'll post a list soon! i've been distracted by real life recently. i'm happy i'll be posting after brian d, because i would have strongly considered our hospitality, shadows of forgotten ancestors and celine and julie go boating for my own list. because we'll be collating the ballots at the end, i'll vote for ten films that have no support so far -- i don't really have a 'top ten' and find it almost impossible to choose anyway, so i won't be distorting my ballot by doing that

[wba]

i'll post a list soon! i've been distracted by real life recently. i'm happy i'll be posting after brian d, because i would have strongly considered our hospitality, shadows of forgotten ancestors and celine and julie go boating for my own list. because we'll be collating the ballots at the end, i'll vote for ten films that have no support so far -- i don't really have a 'top ten' and find it almost impossible to choose anyway, so i won't be distorting my ballot by doing that

I hope you've noticed my first and foremost rule regarding everyone's Top 10 for this endeavour, written in bold in the first post of this thread: The same you would have submitted had Sight & Sound asked you!

Anyways, I'm happy for every ballot as long as it actually consists of no more than 10 items one considers to be films (instead of trying to squeeze 12 or 14 or 40 into ones "Top 10").

[greennui]

idk lol

City of Pirates 1983 ‘La Ville des pirates’ Directed by Raúl Ruiz
Spring in a Small Town 1948 ‘小城之春’ Directed by Fei Mu
Edvard Munch 1974 Directed by Peter Watkins
Nostos: The Return 1989 ‘Nostos: il ritorno’ Directed by Franco Piavoli
Wake in Fright 1971 Directed by Ted Kotcheff
My Man Godfrey 1936 Directed by Gregory La Cava
Du côté d'Orouët 1971 Directed by Jacques Rozier
Marius 1931 Directed by Alexander Korda
Van Gogh 1991 Directed by Maurice Pialat
First Name: Carmen 1983 ‘Prénom Carmen’ Directed by Jean-Luc Godard

[wba]

5 lists so far - not bad, but come on guys, we can do much much better than that!

[Angel]

Tenshi no harawata: Akai kyôshitsu "Angel Guts: Red Classroom"
Chûsei Sone, Japan 1978

A recent viewing, wba? I don't remember seeing it before in your canon.

[nrh]

angel, ernst lubitsch 1937
canyon passage, jacques tourneur 1946
the big sky, howard hawks 1952
goliath & the dragon, vittorio cottafavi 1960
femmes femmes, paul vechiaili 1974
toute une nuit, chantal akerman 1982
manoel on the island of wonders, raul ruiz 1984
utsav, girish karnad 1984
pestonjee, vijaya metha 1988
august in the water, gakuryu ishii 1995

[wba]

Tenshi no harawata: Akai kyôshitsu "Angel Guts: Red Classroom"
Chûsei Sone, Japan 1978

A recent viewing, wba? I don't remember seeing it before in your canon.

Kinda recent, yes. I watched it at the cinema at a film festival in January 2018 from an excellent 35mm print.

[flip]

The Good Fairy (William Wyler, 1935)
Spring Parade (Henry Koster, 1940)
Ride the Pink Horse (Robert Montgomery, 1947)
The Wonderful Country (Robert Parrish, 1959)
They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (Sydney Pollack, 1969)
The Toth Family (Zoltan Fabri, 1969)
The Mongols (Parviz Kimiavi, 1973)
The Adventure of Faustus Bidgood (Andy and Michael Jones, 1986)
A Moment of Innocence (Mohsen Makhmalbaf, 1996)
Filantropica (Nae Caranfil, 2002)


this was hard... i never know what criteria to use to pare down my initial list of fifty films. in the end, i decided i'd include a lot of films i wouldn't expect anyone else to include in a list like this, so it became sort of a personal exercise. that also meant i excluded films i'd usually strongly consider if they have already been mentioned, films like Our Hospitality, Celine and Julie Go Boating, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, Nostos: Il Ritorno, Manoel on the Island of Wonders, and Canyon Passage.

[rischka]

https://thefilmstage.com/jeanne-dielman ... time-list/

sight & sound list is out

[rischka]

青蛇/Green Snake 1993
Bildnis einer Trinkerin 1979
大阪の宿/An Inn at Osaka1954
만다라/Mandala 1981
Vredens dag 1943
Viaggio in Italia 1954
माटी मानस/Mind of Clay 1985
Wagon Master 1950
At Sea 2007
Dishonored 1931

sry this is the list i posted on twitter for my pretend ballot

[rischka]

wtf with portrait of a lady on fire?? #30 above M and l'atalante? is this actually good lol

fwiw it's top ten in the director's list as well

[greennui]

They've clearly let too many young greenhorns vote, Portrait of Lady on Fire in the top 30 lmao.

[greennui]

Get Out too

[rischka]

too much wokeness

[nrh]

i know the akerman is her Official Masterpiece but i'm always sad that's the movie people rally behind; as good as it is i'd prefer almost any of her other movies to get that support. maybe news from home will make the move next decade.

nothing at all in spanish or portuguese? and india once again only represented by a single ray? and not a great showing for east asia either.

genuinely shocked at the western recency bias. moonlight? get out? portrait of a lady on fire? parasite?

[nrh]

one other thing that i think is clear is that having a us blu ray release is the surest way to get onto the list. for all the talk of a digital generation coming into the poll very little here feels like it reflects that tastes of people that torrent movies...

[rischka]

yep. glad for chantal but it's also not my favorite

[wba]

wtf with portrait of a lady on fire?? #30 above M and l'atalante?

This iteration of the list now seems the most worthless of them all.

Next stop: Star Wars or Lord of the Rings on the list...

[wba]

moonlight? get out? portrait of a lady on fire? parasite?

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK????

Is this the Oscar vote now?

What happened to the S&S poll?!?!?!

[Monsieur Arkadin]

I haven't looked over the entire list yet, but the top 20 is definitely a surprise (and kind of a welcome one) to me. It seems obvious though that Criterion is having an oversize influence on the results here. However, that oversize influence did push Varda, Akerman, and Maya Deren into the top 20, increasing their visibility to a lot of people (like my students) who would usually ignore them (well maybe not Varda, she's hip now).

[nrh]

relevant - https://twitter.com/bronco7732/status/1 ... 10dvwFTAZg

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Ya, the importance of who releases a film and where/how becomes all too obvious a deciding factor. It's no wonder why some film areas are missing from the poll when they are ignored by Janus/Criterion and the like.

But the addition of Portrait of a Lady on Fire doesn't bother me, Sciamma is pretty special, but as with other directors like Akerman as much a vote for the most well known of her films than anything else. (Not arguing for its placement on the list mind you, just that Sciamma is awfully good.)