1947 Poll 2.0

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Choose your favourite films from 1947 (according to IMDB).

Each person can vote for up to 20 films. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number.

Twenty-film ballots can be formatted as follows:
- Five tiers of four films each, 4/4/4/4/4; scored 5-4-3-2-1 pts/film/tier
- Four tiers of five films each, 5/5/5/5; scored 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5 pts/film/tier
- Two tiers of ten films each, 10/10; scored 4-2 pts/film/tier
- No tiers, unranked; scored 3 pts/film
- A 20-film three-tier ballot is not possible

A tiered ballot can include less than 20 films, but in that case the total number of films must still be able to be factored by the number of tiers, so:
- A five tier ballot can include only 20, 15, 10, or 5 films
- A four tier ballot can include only 20, 16, 12, 8, or 4 films
- A three tier ballot (scored 5-3-1) can include only 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films
- A two tier ballot can include only 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, or 2 films
- Ballots that are 19, 17, 13, 11, 7 or 1 films must be no tiers

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible, so that others can use them for recommendations. You may revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline.

Deadline for 1947 ballots will be Friday, June 30th at roughly midnight EDT.

[greennui]

Le Tempestaire 1947 Directed by Jean Epstein
Black Narcissus 1947 Directed by Emeric Pressburger, Michael Powell
The Ball at the Anjo House 1947 ‘安城家の舞踏会’ Directed by Kōzaburō Yoshimura
The Woman on the Beach 1947 Directed by Jean Renoir
Not Guilty 1947 ‘Non coupable’ Directed by Henri Decoin
Fireworks 1947 Directed by Kenneth Anger
Jenny Lamour 1947 ‘Quai des Orfèvres’ Directed by Henri-Georges Clouzot
Intohimon vallassa 1947 Directed by Teuvo Tulio
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir 1947 Directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz
Ride the Pink Horse 1947 Directed by Robert Montgomery

Out of the Past 1947 Directed by Jacques Tourneur
It Always Rains on Sunday 1947 Directed by Robert Hamer
Nightmare Alley 1947 Directed by Edmund Goulding
Brute Force 1947 Directed by Jules Dassin
The Unsuspected 1947 Directed by Michael Curtiz
Daisy Kenyon 1947 Directed by Otto Preminger
Forever Amber 1947 Directed by Otto Preminger
Motion Painting No. 1 1947 Directed by Oskar Fischinger
Symphony of a City 1947 ‘Människor i stad – En SF-kortfilm från Stockholm’ Directed by Arne Sucksdorff

[sally]

captain from castile - henry king
forever amber - otto preminger
the brothers - david macdonald
le tempestaire - jean epstein
snow trail - senkichi taniguchi
along the sungari river - jin shan
the spring river flows east - chusheng cai, zheng junli
spring awakens - mikio naruse
it always rains on sunday - robert hamer
one wonderful sunday - akira kurosawa
the fugitive - john ford
they made me a fugitive - alberto cavalcanti
odd man out - carol reed
passionate power - teuvo tulio
non coupable - henri decoin
o leão da estrela - arthur duarte
the pearl - emilio fernández
daisy kenyon - otto preminger
the ghost and mrs muir - joseph l. mankiewicz
record of a tenement gentleman - yasujirō ozu

i've definitely watched a 'quai des' but according to letterboxd i haven't logged any and i can't remember which one i saw so am gonna (re?)watch des orfèvres for this poll (oh dear, will have to sit through jouvet, unbearable! ) and maybe des brumes (1938) one day as well....

also fabulous, there's a spanish don quixote.....

edit: oh, and i've definitely seen fireworks as well, but it's not showing logged on letterboxd, weird....wonder what else i've lost somewhere

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

I just learned there are two movies from 1947 both called (in English translation) Devil in the Flesh!! Carlos Hugo Christensen's Con el diablo en el cuerpo as well as Claude Autant-Lara's Le Diable au corps.

Quite a coincidence! Anyway, if you vote for both or either, make it clear which one you're voting for

[rischka]

THEY HAVE CHANGED THE TITLE OF QUAI DE ORFEVRES TO JENNY LAMOUR. WHY



i've never seen the fugitive or the pearl and i guess i should

[sally]

this is THE perfect film to begin 1947 (given zynab's past username)....made by the army to berate the blind idiocy of british subjects, a reminder that cinema was historically one of the many arms of the military-industrial complex




watch here: https://www.londonsscreenarchives.org.uk/title/19938/
but slightly more info here: https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/wat ... 947-online

[flip]

insanely good year for noir, can't believe how many good films i had to cut:

Ride the Pink Horse (Robert Montgomery)
The Sin of Harold Diddlebock (Preston Sturges)
The Web (Michael Gordon)
The Devil Thumbs a Ride (Felix Feist)

Ivy (Sam Wood)
The Unsuspected (Michael Curtiz)
Ramrod (Andre de Toth)
Nightmare Alley (Edmund Goulding)

Body and Soul (Robert Rossen)
Brute Force (Jules Dassin)
13 Rue Madeleine (Henry Hathaway)
Dark Passage (Delmer Daves)

Lady in the Lake (Robert Montgomery)
Crossfire (Edward Dmytryk)
Roses are Red (James Tinling)
Framed (Richard Wallace)

Nora Prentiss (Vincent Sherman)
Shoot to Kill (William Berke)
The Lady from Shanghai (Orson Welles)
The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer (Irving Reis)

[Monsieur Arkadin]

Trying to see if I can score tickets to a screening of a nitrate print to Black Narcissus tonight. Not sure how hard that's going to be, but if possible that'll be a fun way to get to that one which I have not seen yet.

[Zynab]

my shortlist (not final):

black narcissus
body and soul
born to kill
brute force
the devil thumbs a ride
la diosa arrodillada
forever amber
the ghost and mrs. muir
high tide
intohimon vallassa
kiss of death
the lady from shanghai
lady in the lake
nightmare alley
out of the past
possessed
the red house
ride the pink horse
they won’t believe me
zwischen gestern und morgen

forever amber - otto preminger

forever amber

so glad to see you both like forever amber. i've seen it twice now and it's seriously a favorite but i feel like the consensus on it is that it's bs / a mess. but it's a top shelf preminger for me. excited to rewatch it in 1080p this month.

films from '47 i'm making it a priority to watch this month:

ball at the anjo house
con el diablio en el cuerpo
daisy kenyon
det kom en gäst
driftwood
ehe im schatten
fatmah
the fugitive
in jenen tagen
jassy
the mark of cain
moss rose
non coupable
odd man out
quai des orfèves
repeat performance
sírena
temptation harbour
t-men
the web
the woman on the beach
zolushka

[St. Gloede]

My list:

Odd Man Out (1947, Carol Reed)
Monsieur Verdoux (1947, Charlie Chaplin)
Anjô-ke no butôkai / A Ball at the Anjo House (1947, Kôzaburô Yoshimura)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947, Joseph L. Mankiewich)

Nightmare Alley (1947, Edmund Goulding)
Black Narcissus (1947, Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger)
A Double Life (1947, George Cukor)
Pursued (1947, Raoul Walsh)

Le silence est d'or / Silence Is Golden (1947, René Clair)
Subarashiki nichiyobi / One Wonderful Sunday (1947, Akira Kurosawa)
Out of the Past (1947, Jaques Tourneur)
Mourning Becomes Electra (1947, Dudley Nichols)

Nagaya shinshiroku / The Record of a Tenement Gentleman (1947, Yasujiro Ozu)
Kiss of Death (1947, Henry Hathaway)
Varúj...! / Beware! (1947, Palo Bielik & Martin Fric)
Dark Passage (1947, Delmer Daves)

Brighton Rock (1947, John Boulting)
Wozzeck (1947, Georg C. Klaren)
Quais Orfèvres (1947, Henri-Georges Clouzot)
In jenen Tagen / In Those Days / Seven Journeys (1947, Helmut Käutner)

Honourable mentions:

The Red House (1947, Delmer Daves)
Haru no mezame / Spring Awakens (1947, Mikio Naruse)
La perla / The Pearl (1947, Emilio Fernández)
The Lady from Shanghai (1947, Orson Welles)
Life with Father (1947, Michael Curtiz)
Hue and Cry (1947, Charles Crichton)
Antoine et Antoinette (1947, Jacques Becker)
Zwischen gestern und morgen / Between Yesterday and Tomorrow (1947, Harald Braun)
The Unsuspected (1947)
Angel and the Badman (1947, James Edward Grant)
They Won't Believe Me (1947, Irving Pichel)
Body and Soul (1947, Robert Rossen)
The Long Night (1947, Anatole Litvak)

[sally]

so glad to see you both like forever amber. i've seen it twice now and it's seriously a favorite but i feel like the consensus on it is that it's bs / a mess. but it's a top shelf preminger for me. excited to rewatch it in 1080p this month.

seems to be quite polarizing. on letterboxd all the (declared) girls i follow have hearted it, ditto the spanish and portuguese guys, plus jerry the texan from the old days. not sure what that says about the film.....i can't remember anything other than it was gorgeous, and there were some subtleties that i could not possibly recall now but maybe also george sanders was cute in it? (he's always adorable tho)

[rischka]

my favorite role for linda darnell!

i've pointedly left out of the past out of my list as it was my favorite film for many years. i'm more of a noir girl than sally :p

i also love odd man out, brighton rock, pursued, they made me a fugitive, the kneeling goddess, etc

and i have a few to watch so my list is probably not final

[rischka]

forever amber is apparently public domain and it's on youtube in good quality

i might watch it again along with the ghost and mrs muir

Trying to see if I can score tickets to a screening of a nitrate print to Black Narcissus tonight.

since i can't do this lol, good luck!!

[Lencho of the Apes]

FWIW, Christensen's Diablo En El Cuerpo is a rom-com and doesn't play by any of the generic rules that title would suggest (not noirish nohow. Or nothin'.) I don't see it making anybody's lists, even if they watch it...

[sally]

this is INCREDIBLY satisfying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8BQ64TtKnQ

[nrh]

The Sin of Harold Diddlebock (Preston Sturges)
Forever Amber (Otto Preminger)
The Love of the Actress Sumako (Kenji Mizoguchi)
Captain from Castile (Henry King)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (Joseph Miankiewicz)

The Lady from Shanghai (Orson Welles)
Pursued (Raoul Walsh)
Out of the Past (Jacques Tourneur)
Golden Earrings (Mitchell Leisen)
The Exile (Max Ophuls)

a lot from this year that i would want to rewatch before voting on. need to see antoine et antoinette and mehboob khan's elan.

[sally]

i'm more of a noir girl than sally :p

no kidding

[Lencho of the Apes]

Preliminaria... (bottom tier is more like 'prelimination'...)

La Diosa Arrodillada - Gavaldon
The Lady From Shanghai
Le Tempestaire - Epstein

Encadenada (El Yugo) - Victor Urruchua
Monsieur Verdoux
La Perla - Fernandez
Le Silence Est D'Or - Clair

Body And Soul - Rossen
Dreams That Money Can Buy -- Richter
Lured - Sirk
Que Verde Era Mi Padre - Ismael Rodriguez
Rairoaded - Mann

Bury Me Dead - Bernard Vorhaus
Gran Casino - Bunuel
Killer McCoy - Roy Rowland
Kiss Of Death - Hathaway
Nightmare Alley
Ride The Pink Horse
El Tigre De Jalisco - Rene Cardona
La Vida Intima De Marco Antonio Y Cleiopatra - Gavaldon

[Zynab]

FWIW, Christensen's Diablo En El Cuerpo is a rom-com and doesn't play by any of the generic rules that title would suggest (not noirish nohow. Or nothin'.) I don't see it making anybody's lists, even if they watch it...

Ah ok; I'll probably save it for towards the end of the month. I love me some Carlos Hugo Christensen but after taking a closer look, this doesn't seem like it would be among my favorites of his, let alone the top 20 films of 1947.

[Zynab]

Kicked off my month of 1947 with Fritz Lang's SECRET BEYOND THE DOOR. It pains me that I don't love this more, but it's super disjointed...it's REBECCA but janky and demented with a ponderous script. I did like it but it's not a film I would rank highly compared to other "women's noir" or films from 1947.

[rischka]

Hard agree. I know a lot of people love it

Beautiful screens

In my mind I confuse w house by the river. This one needs more louis hayward

[greennui]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZXDa17TDqo

Forest symphony.

[Monsieur Arkadin]

Watched Black Narcissus on its original Nitrate print last night, packed house full of people travelling from all over just to watch nitrate prints.

It'll definitely go on my list. I really liked it. Honestly, I liked when it went baroque and gothic, and wish it had laid all that on a bit thicker. But the lighting/color (which was sort of dim/murky in nitrate, though I have nothing to compare it to) was beautiful. The early sequence where David Farrar is introducing the "palace" feels like it predicts the opening of Last Year at Marienbad and also Duras works like Agatha and the Limitless Readings.

Crowd was full of film studies grad students, programmers, archivists, and all around film dweebs, which was a blessing and a curse. Guy behind me couldn't seem to resist rattling off trivia about the movie every 2 or 3 shots. Sometimes film nerds prefer talking about the films to actually experiencing them. Everyone also needed to laugh really hard at every slightly humorous moment, including those that fall flat (snarky comments by Aya, etc.) which felt like performative engagement rather than genuine. But a lot of people were genuinely rapt, and the energy in the room was really cool and contributed overall to feeling like you were out at an "event" movie. Which I don't get to experience too often anymore.

Anyway, everyone already knows this, but Black Narcissus is pretty good!

[St. Gloede]

Fully agree with Zynab and rischka on Secret Beyond the Door.

[karl]

Top tier:

ONE WONDERFUL SUNDAY
THE LOVE OF THE ACTRESS SUMAKO
IT HAPPENED IN EUROPE
THE BALL AT THE ANJO HOUSE
OUT OF THE PAST
MONSIEUR VERDOUX
THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI
BRUTE FORCE
RECORD OF A TENEMENT GENTLEMAN

Also very much like:

VIVERE IN PACE
KISS OF DEATH
BODY AND SOUL
CAPTAIN FROM CASTILLE
SECRET BEYOND THE DOOR
T-MEN
MARRIAGE (Kinoshita)
ONCE MORE (Gosho)
CROSSFIRE
BLACK NARCISSUS
SPRING AWAKENS
DARK PASSAGE
"JENNY LAMOUR"
THE FELLOWS WHO ATE THE ELEPHANT
MAGIC TOWN
RIDE THE PINK HORSE
NIGHTMARE ALLEY
ANTOINE AND ANTOINETTE
SECRET AGENT (Barnet)
THE VILLAGE SCHOOLTEACHER
T-MEN
THE LONG NIGHT
RAMROD
13 RUE MADELEINE
ODD MAN OUT
PURSUED

Good year for USA, though I can't stand that Preminger everyone else here loves. If I see anything it'll be some of those Italians.

[wba]

Films seen: around 35

Final List

two tiers

Born to Kill (Robert Wise, USA)
Monsieur Verdoux (Charles Chaplin, USA)
Non coupable “Not Guilty“ (Henri Decoin, France)
Angel and the Badman (James Edward Grant, USA)
Gran Casino (Luis Bunuel, Mexico)

The Unsuspected (Michael Curtiz, USA)
Pursued (Raoul Walsh, USA)
Varúj...! “Beware!“ (Palo Bielik/Martin Fric, Czechoslovakia)
Dreams That Money Can Buy (Hans Richter, USA)
Desert Fury (Lewis Allen, USA)

[Holdrüholoheuho]

The dominant, defining feature of 1947 hair styles for women was the use of waves, curls and rolls.

ANTOINE AND ANTOINETTE

[rischka]

i don't have the slightest idea how to even go about getting that hairstyle. i suspect it involves hairpieces

i haven't seen the ghost and mrs muir since i was very young but as soon as someone said monkey puzzle tree i remembered i want to live at gull cottage







jmank isn't my favorite but he's certainly not incompetent and i'm pleased for gene tierney getting a non-wimpy role (that isn't a psychotic)





strong hat game. and i almost get falling for this guy with a thousand red flags waving



as fell in love with a ghost movies go it's a pretty good one

[greennui]

My main recollection of Muir is "Gene Tierney <3<3", shame she had to act through that hair era.

[sally]

carnival in costa rica - gregory ratoff

everyone involved in this should be ashamed of themselves