Doubling the Canon 2023 Update - Results!

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Doubling the Canon 2023 Update - Results!

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Welcome to our annual update.

What is this?
Begun in 2007, Doubling the Canon is a yearly project which aims to expand the Film Canon as crafted by the They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? website.

Who can participate?
Anyone can join. Filmmakers, FIPRESCI members or Sight & Sound voters were among our jurors in the past, they are welcome as well. ;)
Requirement for newbies: Please note that you will be requested to identify yourself, just to make sure that the poll is answered (only once) by cinephiles of good will.

Where?
In this thread.
In the ICMForum: https://forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6380
Via e-mail: doublingthecanon@hotmail.com

What is new in this update?
Any film that is newly admitted to the Doubled Canon must be subjected to a revote after 5 years so we're going to revote the 2018 entries.

2022 update:
https://scfzforum.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=875
https://forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5829

Phase I: Nominations for titles not on either TSPDT lists (2000 Greatest Films + 21st Century top 1000) or the Doubling list.
Deadline: May 6.
Each participant can nominate a maximum of 12 films. Shorts, TV-movies, and TV mini-series are eligible. Every nominated movie goes onto the roster as a nominee. Films released in 2022-23 aren't allowed this year for our exercise.
sol, lineuphere and flavo5000 get respectively 3, 2 and 1 extra nominations.
Along with a list of the titles, please include the corresponding list of bare IMDb urls for the same films.
Please, don't edit your post! To change your ballot or add new titles you have to write a new reply.

Ongoing list of nominated films: See the post below.

Phase II: Ratings.
You're invited to rate the films you have seen (whether you have participated in the phase I or not). The nominees with the highest ratings make it into our list.
You can cast your votes anytime between now and Wednesday, May 31. Only 'write-in' updates will be accepted after the deadline.
Please, sign your ballot. Example: This is Angel Glez.

Rating system: 0-6 (3.75 was the cutoff last year)

Procedure 1: Just download the ballot (if you prefer I can send you the file) and email it back to doublingthecanon@hotmail.com
DDL: https://we.tl/t-OCFcZkDvP5
Procedure 2: Online (PM me for details)

:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls568388251/
:lboxd: https://letterboxd.com/zzzorf/list/doub ... minations/

Don't remove anything, don't reorder. Untouched ballot with ratings, please.

After submitting your ballot, post a reply here to make sure I received the file. You can also add comments or statistics if you wish.

Early ballots would be appreciated. Then, if you watch new films or forgot to rate some, send me a 'write-in' ballot.

Thank you in advance for joining us in this game.

P.S.: If you know anyone adventurous enough (on or off the forum) that you think would also enjoy participating, feel free to invite them as well.

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Doubling the Canon 2022 List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls560427797/
:lboxd: https://letterboxd.com/angelg/list/doub ... anon-2022/

Doubling the Canon 2022 Runners-up
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

TSPDT Greatest Films (2023)
https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000.htm
TSPDT 21st Century top 1000 (2023)
https://www.theyshootpictures.com/21stcentury.htm

TSPDT Canon (2000 Greatest Films + 21st Century top 1000)
:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls568555719/

IMDb Search (eligible titles)
:imdb: https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?titl ... 2021-12-31

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Results (ongoing)
https://forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 00#p813605

All results

:imdb: DtC 2023 runners-up
iCM DtC 2023 runners-up

:imdb: Ex-DtC 2011-2023
iCM Ex-DtC 2011-2023

:imdb: DtC 2023
iCM DtC 2023
:lboxd: DtC 2023

DtC 2023 Master List


:imdb: DtC 2024 pre-nominations
iCM DtC 2024 pre-nominations
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Already posted this on ICM, just want the members here to see it too just in case

A Labor of Love (1976)
Corruption (1983)
Beyond Dream's Door (1989)
Curdled (1996)
Clockwatchers (1997)
The Yards (2000)
The PriceMaster (2001)
At the Horizon (2017)
The Exigency (2019)
Dream Journal 2016-2019 (2019)
La nature (2019)
Zola (2020)

NOTE: It's probably obvious, but watch the director's cut of The Yards, not the butchered Weinstein version. He made it bad on purpose to try to ruin James Gray's career.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249672/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085367/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096919/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115994/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118866/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138946/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt25785228/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12546774/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10086834/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13143740/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11302200/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5439812/
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my computer failed between last year and this so i have no idea what i nominated in 2022...anyway, films i keep thinking about long after i've seen them (discounting the films with valdemar psilander being super hot & sexy because i appreciate that they probably won't qualify with anyone else, but i'll still leave the unparalleled exquisite trembling of charles ray and audie murphy in for any fellow female voters):

the girl behind the counter (1911) august blom
raphael the gypsy (1914)
the coward (1915) reginald barker
riders to the sea (1935) brian desmond hurst
beware of pity (1946) maurice elvey
pag-asa (1951) lamberto v. avellana
the red badge of courage (1951) john huston
full moon (1979) andrzej kondratiuk
love above pyramid's plateau (1986) atef el-tayeb
landscape with a woman (1989) ivica matić
never sleep again (1992) pia frankenberg
remote control (1992) óskar jónasson

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0001592/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2391496/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0005149/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0026930/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038354/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0442390/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043961/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081321/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087646/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128856/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107679/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108176/
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1. The Steel Animal 1935 ‘Das Stahltier’ Directed by Willy Zielke
2. Craig’s Wife 1936 Directed by Dorothy Arzner
3. Quiet Please, Murder 1942 Directed by John Francis Larkin
4. Melody of a Great City 1943 ‘Großstadtmelodie’ Directed by Wolfgang Liebeneiner
5. The White Cat 1950 ‘Den vita katten’ Directed by Hasse Ekman
6. Hanna Amon 1951 Directed by Veit Harlan
7. What a Way to Go! 1964 Directed by J. Lee Thompson
8. Stop! 1970 Directed by Bill Gunn
9. Jungle Girl 1984 Directed by Richard Myers
10. Dutch Harbor: Where the Sea Breaks its Back 1998 Directed by Braden King, Laura Moya
11. German Concentration Camps Factual Survey 2014 Directed by Sidney Bernstein
12. A Century of Energy 2015 ‘Um Século de Energia’ Directed by Manoel de Oliveira

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121767/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027474/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035233/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035955/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043109/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043617/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058743/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0174244/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3067534/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210660/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3455796/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4764666/
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Already submitted on ICM, but here we are for SCFZ:

A Pál utcai fiúk / The Boys of Paul Street (1968 - Zoltán Fábri)
On Approval (1944 - Clive Brook)
Deadfall (1968 - Bryan Forbes)
Patterns (1956 - Fielder Cook)
Jofroi (1933 - Marcel Pagnol)
Regain / Harvest (1937 - Marcel Pagnol)
Club de femmes (1936 - Jacques Deval)
Gespenster / Ghosts (2005 - Christian Petzold)
Malmkrog / Manor House (2020 - Cristi Puiu)
Țărmul n-are sfârșit / The Endless Shore (1962 - Mircea Saucan)
The Caretaker (1963 - Clive Donner)
Mollenard / Hatred (1938 - Robert Siodmak)
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My nominations for 2023:

Հնձան / Sour Grapes / (1974, Bagrat Oganesyan) / Armenia
En el balcón vacío / On the Empty Balcony / (1962, Jomí García Ascot) / Mexico
Moteris ir keturi jos vyrai / A Woman and Her Four Men / (1983, Algimantas Puipa) / Lithuania
Palo y hueso / Stick and Bone / (1968, Nicolás Sarquís) / Argentina
La sangre y la semilla / The Blood and the Seed / (1959, Alberto Du Bois) / Paraguay/Argentina
День, когда исполняется 30 лет / The Day When the 30th Birthday is Celebrated / (1962, Valentin Vinogradov) / Belarus
Дубравка / Dubravka / (1967, Radomir Vasilevsky) / The Ukraine
L'ordonnance / The Orderly / (1933, Viktor Tourjansky) / France
24 Horas de Sonho / A Dream Day / (1941, Chianca de Garcia) / Brazil
Portrait of a Young Man in Three Movements / (1931, Henwar Rodakiewicz) / USA
Desperate Remedies / (1992, Stewart Main & Peter Wells) / New Zealand
Человек идёт за солнцем / Sandu Follows the Sun / (1962, Mikhail Kalik) / Moldova

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418733/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163617/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088451/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121624/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0188191/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0313961/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346910/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129823/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151849/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0875140/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106709/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033306/
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Asparagus (Suzan Pitt, 1979)
Pictures of the Old World | ‘Obrazy starého sveta’ (Dušan Hanák, 1972)
Illumination | ‘Iluminacja’ (Krzysztof Zanussi, 1973)
Young Werther | ‘Le Jeune Werther’ (Jacques Doillon, 1993)
Three Landscapes (Peter B. Hutton, 2013)
Matinee (Joe Dante, 1993)
Destiny | ‘Kader’ (Zeki Demirkubuz, 2006)
Autumn Leaves (Robert Aldrich, 1956)
Cluny Brown (Ernst Lubitsch, 1946)
The Draughtsman’s Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
The Beaver Trilogy (Trent Harris, 2000)
Finis Terrae (Jean Epstein, 1929)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140821
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0171587
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070217
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107265
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3123188
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107529
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0875595
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048967
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038419
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083851
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0256639
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295259
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Mauries wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:44 pm Cluny Brown (Ernst Lubitsch, 1946)
The Draughtsman’s Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
The Beaver Trilogy (Trent Harris, 2000)
Finis Terrae (Jean Epstein, 1929)
The Beaver Trilogy was already nominated by someone else and the other three titles are ineligible so you have 4 free slots.
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ha! not only have i heard of a few on roger's list, i've actually already got some to watch! i don't think that's ever happened before
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Tell me about it! I have to track down Spanish language movies I haven't heard of before (the 4th and the 5th). :lol:
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I already voted on the ICMForum as well, but will share my nominees here for added exposure:
Lisboa (1930, José Leitão de Barros)
Der Hauptmann von Köpenick / The Captain from Köpenick (1931, Richard Oswald)
Film ohne Titel / Film Without a Name (1948, Rudolf Jugert)
Mali vojnici / Playing Soldiers (1967, Bahrudin 'Bato' Cengic)
Film Portrait (1970, Jerome Hill)
o.k. (1970, Michael Verhoeven)
Buffet froid (1979, Bertrand Blier)
Jane B. par Agnès V. (1988, Agnès Varda) - Already nominated and got on the list a few years ago, but slid out with new entries
Privilege (1990, Yvonne Rainer)
Nassereddin Shah, Actor-e Cinema / Once Upon a Time, Cinema (1992, Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
Die Umschulung / The Re-Education (1994, Harun Farocki)
MURDER and murder (1996, Yvonne Rainer)
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sally wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:48 am ha! not only have i heard of a few on roger's list, i've actually already got some to watch! i don't think that's ever happened before
Ah, that's nice. One of my reasons for going with a sprinkling of nations rather than a heavy focus on one area that I love (such as the Baltics or Central Asia) was the hope that people here and on ICM Forum might see something of interest.
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Angel wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:14 pm
Mauries wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:44 pm Cluny Brown (Ernst Lubitsch, 1946)
The Draughtsman’s Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
The Beaver Trilogy (Trent Harris, 2000)
Finis Terrae (Jean Epstein, 1929)
The Beaver Trilogy was already nominated by someone else and the other three titles are ineligible so you have 4 free slots.

I have the feeling that there is one list I'm not checking. Hopefully these four are eligible:

Disintegration Loop 1.1 (William Basinski, 2004)
Bandits of Orgosolo (Vittorio de Seta, 1961)
Capriccio (Zoltán Huszárik, 1970)
Butterfly of Love | ‘Papillon d'amour’ (Nicolas Provost, 2004)

https://letterboxd.com/film/disintegration-loop-11/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053632
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182876
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390344/
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https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tspd ... 1001-2000/

This list probably, it didn't exist when DtC first became a thing.
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Let's get some smut on there.

Lyubov / Love (Vadim Todorvskiy, 1991)
Happy Here and Now (Michael Almereyda, 2002)
La polizia chiede aiuto / What Have They Done To Your Daughters? (Massimo Dallamano, 1974)
Kazdy den odvahu / Courage for Every Day (Evald Schorm, 1964)
Times Square (Allan Moyle, 1980)
The Opening of Misty Beethoven (Radley Metzger, 1976)
Café Flesh (Stephen Sayadian, 1982)
Devil in Miss Jones (Gerard Damiano, 1973)
The Assassination Bureau (Basil Dearden, 1969)
Winter Kills (William Richert, 1979)
Jonas qui aura 25 ans en l'an 2000 / Jonah Who Will Be 25 in the Year 2000 (Alain Tanner, 1976)
Der schöne Tag / A Fine Day (Thomas Arslan, 2001)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102361/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271537/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072007/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058259/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081635/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075018/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083707/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069969/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064045/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080139/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074718/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280096/
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Mauries wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:32 am Bandits of Orgosolo (Vittorio de Seta, 1961)
Ineligible: TSPDT #1576 ;)
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MrCarmady wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:44 am Let's get some smut on there.
:dance: :clap: :dance:

The Metzger will get full support from me and I'll dive into the Damiano for the DtC challenge over on ICM Forum.
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Last call, ladies and gentlemen. 24 hours left!

Nominators counted so far (let me know if I need to correct any mistakes or omissions):
72aicm (7)
AB537
Alena_03 (10)
Andrey Piskov
Angel Glez
Anyway
artintelligen
beasterne
beavis
Bill Spiby
blocho (8)
Carmel1379
cayado-coro
cayh
cinephage
cinephage
Dolwphin
DudeLanez
DulceDoes
Fergenaprido
filmbantha
flavo5000
frbrown
George Eastman
Gordon_Gekko
greennui
gunnar
Hawk
hurluberlu
IcarusFolon
insomnius
jal90
jdidaco
klaus78
kongs_speech (2)
Labraxas
Lakigigar
lee-109
LeSchpountz
lineuphere
Mario Gaborović
matthewscott8
Mauries (11)
Melvelet (4)
Mifune
monclivie
monoglot
MrCarmady
Mulholland
OldAle1
Onderhond
Panunzio
peeptoad
pitchorneirda
Pretentious Hipster
RogerTheMovieManiac88
russa03
sacmersault
sally
shugs
Silga
skimpole
Smoover (11)
sol
St. Gloede
Tngy
tobias
toromash
whizwilly
Y U M E
zhangalan
zzzorf
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Angel wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:05 pm
Mauries wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:32 am Bandits of Orgosolo (Vittorio de Seta, 1961)
Ineligible: TSPDT #1576 ;)

Pastori di Orgosolo (Vittorio de Seta, 1958)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193380/

:)
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¿Where's Wally? :lol:
Spoiler!
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Great find, Sally. :o
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ha!

i could say i chose it because of reasons discussed in the book below (the film gets its own discussion, as comparison and development to griffith's adventures of dollie = tldr; the early gipsy child-stealing films where the gipsy status is indicated by clothing rather than black-face are much less racist than those later films because it suggests a passage between identities (dark/light, also, not coincidentally, the conditions for cinema itself) than can occur to anyone/everyone just by changing clothes and is therefore a device in these early films that suggests not explicit social castes but psychological movements between 'wild' subconscious and becoming a member of public society etc etc etc (one of the examples the book gives is that the child is named (discovers himself) in the gipsy camp, whereas he's just baby-flesh beforehand) but really i just like it because the girls are soooooooooooo cool :D


sally wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:01 pm link to chapter (pg 62): https://heiup.uni-heidelberg.de/reader/ ... 220506.pdf

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how come i've forgotten how to access the ballot lol

does this happen every year? i can't remember :lol:

edit: NM i got it!! (does this happen every year? :oops: )
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still planning on submitting a ballot but it's gonna be last minute probably, sorry angel
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Last call, fellow doublers. 24 hours left!

Only 'write-in' updates will be accepted after the deadline.
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Angel wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 9:28 am Last call, fellow doublers. 24 hours left!

Only 'write-in' updates will be accepted after the deadline.
angel, i DM'd you, did you receive it?

rated what i remember, which is considerably less than what i've apparently seen. brain is rotting.
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ok i'll do it today thx for the reminder!
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sally wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 12:27 pm
Angel wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 9:28 am Last call, fellow doublers. 24 hours left!

Only 'write-in' updates will be accepted after the deadline.
angel, i DM'd you, did you receive it?

rated what i remember, which is considerably less than what i've apparently seen. brain is rotting.
Got it, thanks!
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rischka wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 1:05 pm ok i'll do it today thx for the reminder!
You have to take care of at least 3 babies nominated by you 5 years ago. Apparently brian d, bure, flip or kanafani's orphans are not that lucky. ;)
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i'm halfway through rating the films too, so i should get it in today!
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