1983 Poll 2.0

[sally]

is that a famous store in the US? the way they were talking about it with such reverence....wonder if they ever did manage to sell those two fur jackets....

also i have cringe trauma from the chicken

[sally]

also i am having such a hard time watching things for this year poll, started two films yesterday and they were both so dreadful i quit after 20 mins....i have the vecchiali, but that might be it....

[St. Gloede]

also i am having such a hard time watching things for this year poll, started two films yesterday and they were both so dreadful i quit after 20 mins....i have the vecchiali, but that might be it....

What were the two dreadful ones?

[rischka]

is that a famous store in the US? the way they were talking about it with such reverence....wonder if they ever did manage to sell those two fur jackets....

also i have cringe trauma from the chicken

entirely too much chicken. i remember telling my mom she shouldn't wear dead animals she said only people who can't afford them say that

some things have changed! her silver fox fur brought about $60 at auction. wonder why the MAGA crowd isn't trying to bring those back into style

i don't think i've ever been in this particular store but i did work at a mall for awhile these were like high end anchor stores. i think most of them went bankrupt

Edit: Nieman Marcus is still open and there is one in scottsdale serving the ultra wealthy. Burn

[nrh]

neiman marcus was much more than a high end anchor chain - kind of an internationally famous luxury brand (maybe best known for their ludicrous christmas catalogs, which would casually offer up million pieces of jewelry and so on). pretty much dead now (i think they declared bankruptcy a few years ago?) and supplanted by more modern ludicrous boutique brands (goop, willilams-sonoma etc).

and probably even more famous as part of a kind of "dallas aesthetic"...

[rischka]

and probably even more famous as part of a kind of "dallas aesthetic"...

YES omg the clothes and hair i'm sure suellen and pam shopped there



i looked at their website and they still have "fur services" - cleaning and cold storage - in scottsdale AZ smh

i'm glad fashion is dead

[sally]

also i am having such a hard time watching things for this year poll, started two films yesterday and they were both so dreadful i quit after 20 mins....i have the vecchiali, but that might be it....

What were the two dreadful ones?

the general of the dead army - luciano tovoli (it opened with mahler's 2nd symphony, a piece of music that hardly any film visuals could live up to, certainly not this one, and the dialogue was like a porn movie without any porn)
the scream - barbara sass (am trying to watch mostly female directors at the minute but the 'tough girl=incessantly chewing gum' overacting by dorota stalinska was unbearable)

tbh not sure i am really enjoying any feature length fiction at the minute anyway, so the films may not actually be that bad.

[greennui]

Penalosa is doing lots of year polling on twitter, someone should bring him back.

[rischka]

yeah sally go use your feminine wiles

[sally]

feminine wiles????

jerry knows where we are, but what glory is there contributing to our polls when he can argue with strangers and chat with dan sallitt on twitter

[niminy-piminy]

https://kinometer.com/?list=499

The Right Way (Peter Fischli, David Weiss, 1983, 55m)
The Weather Forecast (Antoni Krauze, 1983, 86m)
Norwood (Patrick Keiller, 1983, 26m)
The Coastline (Peter Greenaway, 1983, 27m)
Pauline at the Beach (Éric Rohmer, 1983, 94m)
City of Pirates (Raúl Ruiz, 1983, 111m)
Closed Circuit (Rudolf Thome, 1983, 114m)
Heinrich Penthesilea von Kleist (Hans Neuenfels, 1983, 144m)
The Eighties (Chantal Akerman, 1983, 82m)
The Very Late Afternoon of a Faun (Věra Chytilová, 1983, 99m)

Letter from a Filmmaker or The Return of a Library Lover (Raúl Ruiz, 1983, 12m)
Incomplete Eclipse (Jaromil Jireš, 1983, 82m)
The Magpie in the Wisp (Juraj Herz, 1983, 96m)
The Gold of Love (Eckhart Schmidt, 1983, 86m)
The Gold Diggers (Sally Potter, 1983, 89m)
The Store (Frederick Wiseman, 1983, 118m)
Pershing (Schmelzdahin, 1983, 2m)
Fragments of Decay (Henri Plaat, 1983, 12m)
Snow Movies (Caroline Avery, 1983, 8m)
Just Enough Time (Robert Cahen, 1983, 13m) ↓

https://vimeo.com/302288121

[ofrene]

missed many but this gonna final

A Nos Amours
City of Pirates
El Sur
L’Argent
Three Crowns of the Sailor

Bless Their Little Hearts
Death and Transfiguration
P.P. Rider
Turumba
Videodrome

Dimensions of Dialogue
Our Century
Pauline at the Beach
That Day, on the Beach
The Right Stuff

Born in Flames
Mandi
My Brother's Wedding
The Boys From Fengkuei
The Sky on Location

[rischka]

a nos amours
brussels by night
in the white city
the weather forecast
legend of the cat-monster

all the kings men
der rechte weg
l'argent
el sur
the eighties

our century
three crowns of a sailor
the boxer's omen
my memories of old beijing
city of pirates

funny dirty little war
bless their little hearts
born in flames
the boys from fengkuei
ballad of narayama

turumba is 1981 on imdb or it would make my list for sure

[rischka]

feminine wiles????

jerry knows where we are, but what glory is there contributing to our polls when he can argue with strangers and chat with dan sallitt on twitter

good point

[shara]

Sans Soleil (Chris Marker)
Nostalghia (Andrei Tarkovsky)
Prénom Carmen (Jean-Luc Godard)
La Ville des Pirates (Raúl Ruiz)
My Memories of Old Beijing (Wu Yigong)
L'argent (Robert Bresson)
À Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat)
Un Jeu Brutal (Jean-Claude Brisseau)

That Day, on the Beach (Edward Yang)
Dans la Ville Blanche (Alain Tanner)
The Family Game (Yoshimitsu Morita)
El Sur (Víctor Erice)
Videodrome (David Cronenberg)
Pauline à la Plage (Éric Rohmer)
Les Trois Couronnes du Matelot (Raúl Ruiz)
Angst (Gerald Kargl)

[Monsieur Arkadin]

sunday pranks - robert gliński

this got banned for a few years, not surprisingly. stalin dies, the kids innocently enact horrific authoritarian games whilst their parents are off performing social obligations. children are ghastly.

with eng subs: https://35mm.online/en/vod/feature-films/sunday-plays

Just got to this because I needed something shorter in length. This is a great find! Upsetting that I kept thinking of South Park the whole time though.

[Silga]

Final list:

Scarface (Brian De Palma)
The Hunger (Tony Scott)
Rumble Fish (Francis Ford Coppola)
Zelig (Woody Allen)
The Dead Zone (David Cronenberg)
Psycho II (Richard Franklin)
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (Richard Marquand)
Le Marginal (Jacques Deray)
Christine (John Carpenter)

Trading Places (John Landis)
The Star Chamber (Peter Hyams)
Daniel (Sidney Lumet)
The Fighter (Alain Delon)
Never Say Never Again (Irvin Kershner)
Sudden Impact (Clint Eastwood)
The Keep (Michael Mann)
Hanna K. (Costa-Gavras)
10 to Midnight (J. Lee Thompson)

[RogerTheMovieManiac]

I should try to post on here more often! If you'll have me, here are 20 I hold dear.

4 tiers of 5:

En haut des marches (Vecchiali)
Moteris ir keturi jos vyrai (Puipa)
Mascara (Findlay & Pachard)
Mer dare (Peleshian)
Olivia (Lommel)

Another Time, Another Place (Radford)
L'eau de la Seine (Hernandez)
Turnaround (Lee)
Night Club (Hodgson)
Fragments of Decay (Plaat)

The Ploughman's Lunch (Eyre)
Woh 7 Din (Bapu)
Heat and Dust (Ivory)
Konflikt (Bardin)
Ardh Satya (Nihalani)

Chiri (Takaishvili)
Tchao pantin (Berri)
La mort de Mario Ricci (Goretta)
De lift (Maas)
Local Hero (Forsyth)

[lineuphere]

Sans soleil -- Chris Marker
Pauline at the Beach -- Éric Rohmer
Nostalghia -- Andrei Tarkovsky
Death and Transfiguration -- Terence Davies
Utopia -- Sohrab Shahid Saless

Fellow Citizen -- Abbas Kiarostami
El Sur -- Víctor Erice
Der rechte Weg -- Peter Fischli, David Weiss
Proshchanie -- Elem Klimov
À nos amours -- Maurice Pialat

L'argent -- Robert Bresson
V -- Kenneth Johnson
My Memories of Old Beijing -- Yigong Wu
Le bal -- Ettore Scola
L'eau de la Seine -- Teo Hernandez

Oliver -- Nick Deocampo
National Lampoon's Vacation -- Harold Ramis
Daicon IV Opening Animation -- Hiroyuki Yamaga
The 4th Man -- Paul Verhoeven
City of Pirates -- Raúl Ruiz

[karl]

Nostalghia
L'argent
Sans Soleil
Growing Up (Chen)

The Boys from Fengkuei
El Sur
A Nos Amours
Dhrupad

Ah Fei
Farewell (Klimov)
Up to a Certain Point (Alea)
The Adventurer (Kiisk)

A Woman and Her Four Men
The Sandwich Man
My Memories of Old Beijing
Blue Mountains, Or an Unbelievable Story

Tough Kids (Asanova)
Without Witness (Mikhalkov)
Incomplete Eclipse (Jireš)
Cucaracha (Dolidze & Dolidze)

[St. Gloede]

I also caught Brussels After Night and Turnaround, neither made my list, but the former in particular was extremely raw, dark, and memorable.

[sally]

final ballot:

sans soleil - chris marker
dans la ville blanche - alain tanner
l'argent - robert bresson
brussels by night - marc didden
norwood - patrick keiller
the return of a library lover - raúl ruiz
der rechte weg - fischli/weiss
the gold diggers - sally potter
city of pirates - raúl ruiz
hajji washington - ali hatami
an uneventful story - wojciech has
ah ying - allen fong
hell - rein raamat
the power of emotion - alexander kluge
katha - sai paranjape
my memories of old beijing - wu yigong
how i was systematically destroyed by idiots - slobodan šijan
the weather forecast - antoni krauze
the sea in their blood - peter greenaway
life is a bed of roses - alain resnais

[sally]

sunday pranks - robert gliński

this got banned for a few years, not surprisingly. stalin dies, the kids innocently enact horrific authoritarian games whilst their parents are off performing social obligations. children are ghastly.

with eng subs: https://35mm.online/en/vod/feature-films/sunday-plays

Just got to this because I needed something shorter in length. This is a great find! Upsetting that I kept thinking of South Park the whole time though.

lol! some great acting by the kids

[sally]

I should try to post on here more often! If you'll have me, here are 20 I hold dear.

please do roger! (and if you're so minded, post your ballot early so it gives the rest of us some interesting suggestions to hunt down before the poll is over )

[flip]

I should try to post on here more often! If you'll have me, here are 20 I hold dear.

please do roger!

seconded! good to see you roger!

[RogerTheMovieManiac]

I should try to post on here more often! If you'll have me, here are 20 I hold dear.

please do roger! (and if you're so minded, post your ballot early so it gives the rest of us some interesting suggestions to hunt down before the poll is over )

Cheers Sal. I shall try to keep SCFZ in my posting thoughts. I do tend to be an awful procrastinator when it comes to these sorts of polls, but I can try to improve, heehee.

And hello to flip. Long time no see!

[Lencho of the Apes]

Christine - Carpenter
City Of Pirates - Ruiz
The Gold Diggers - Potter
The Right Way
Videodrome - Cronenberg

Legend Of The Cat Monster
The LittleGirl Who Conquered Time - Obayashi
Three Crowns Of A Sailor
life is a bed of roses - alain resnais
Born In Flames- Borden

Angst - Kargl
La Belle Captive - Robbe-Grillet
The Dead Zone
Duvar - Yilmaz Gurney
Macumba sexual - Franco

The Ballad Of Narayama- Imamura
Dark Habits - Almodovar
Tisícrocná vcela / The Millennial Bee (1983, Juraj Jakubisko)
Nostalgia - tarkovsky
Streamers - Altman