SCFZ poll: Henry Hathaway

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Polling the films of Henry Hathaway

The rules:

- your list can include no more than half* of the Hathaway films you've seen, up to a maximum of 8. So if you've seen 6 films, you can vote for 3, and if you've seen 20, you can vote for up to 8.

* If you've seen an odd number, you can round up when deciding the length of your ballot -- e.g if you've seen 7, you can vote for 4, and if you've seen 15, you can vote for the maximum of 8.

- i'll assume ballots are ranked unless you tell me otherwise. unranked ballots are fine.

- deadline for ballots: next Tuesday, in seven days, whatever day that is

umbugbene created an index on letterboxd of all of our previous polls here: letterboxd.com/umbugbene/list/index-of-all-scfz-director-polls/

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13 Rue Madeleine
The House on 92nd Street
23 Paces to Baker Street
The Dark Corner
Kiss of Death
True Grit
Rawhide
Garden of Evil

seen 15 -- edit: seen 17

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not a ballot but these are all hathaway films (sometimes i'm writing the titles out differently)

5 Card Stud
7 Thieves
10 Gentlemen from West Point
13 Rue Madeleine
14 Hours
23 Paces to Baker Street
The House on 92nd Street
Call Northside 777

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

1. Rawhide (1951)
2. The Dark Corner (1946)
3. Call Northside 777 (1948)

seen 5

[oscarwerner]

seen 13.
1. Kiss of Death (1947)
2. True Grit (1969)
3. Niagara (1953)
4. The Sons of Katie Elder (1965)
5. Nevada Smith (1966)
6. 23 Paces to Baker Street(1956)

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Niagra
Kiss of Death
The Trail of the Lonesome Pine
Peter Ibbetson
Rawhide
The Black Rose
The Bottom of the Bottle
North to Alaska

[nrh]

Spawn of the North
Shepherd of the Hills
Johnny Apollo
Peter Ibbetson

never really got a handle on hathaway, but i like these earlier films a good deal.

[brian d]

seen 3

the sons of katie elder
nevada smith

[sally]

to my complete surprise i've seen 8, i've been really really intending to see niagara for ages.

shepherd of the hills
peter ibbetson
souls at sea
kiss of death

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seen 8

1. North to Alaska
2. Seven Thieves
3. Call Northside 777
4. The Dark Corner

[Lencho of the Apes]

Seen seven.

Peter Ibbetson

[wba]

Marvellous director!

01. Nevada Smith (1966)
02. How the West Was Won (1962)
03. The Dark Corner (1946)
04. Niagara (1953)

Hathaway seen: 7

[greennui]

4,

Rawhide
Niagara

[St. Gloede]

Seen 16:

Souls at Sea (1937)
Garden of Evil (1954)
The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (1935)
Kiss of Death (1947)
Fourteen Hours (1951)
True Grit (1969)

[john ryan]

seen 10

1. Kiss of Death
2. Call Northside 777
3. Niagara
4. The Shepherd of the Hills
5. True Git

[DT.]

5. True Git

George Osborne?

[sally]

5. True Git

George Osborne?

Oh joy! Someone mentions him independent of me! He's still relevant! (He's been so quiet lately, there hasn't been a tv interview in months )

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i was hoping karl would stop in to vote, since i know he likes some hathaway films, and i'm sure rischka has seen several too, if they want to post late ballots i'll factor them into the tally, which i'll post in a moment

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interesting poll because outside of the top couple of films, there wasn't much consensus about which hathaway films are most worthwhile, and the early, mid-period and late hathaway films all got a fair bit of support. and 25 (edit: 31!!!) different hathaway films got a vote, which is still not even half of his output, but it seems like a lot to me. he made only two films that received a best picture nomination, and neither fared well (lives of a bengal lancer, and how the west was won both finished outside the top 15).


results
1. Kiss of Death (1947) — 18 pts
2. Niagara (1953) — 12 pts
3. The Shepherd of the Hills (1941) — 9 pts
4. Peter Ibbetson (1935) — 7 pts
4. Souls at Sea (1937) — 7 pts
4. Call Northside 777 (1948) — 7 pts
7. Rawhide (1951) — 6.3 pts
8. The Dark Corner (1946) — 6 pts
8. Nevada Smith (1966) — 6 pts
8. True Grit (1969) — 6 pts
11. 13 Rue Madeleine (1947) — 5 pts
11. Nob Hill (1945) — 5 pts
13. North to Alaska (1960) — 4.1 pts
13. Garden of Evil (1954) — 4.1 pts
15. Spawn of the North (1938) — 4 pts
15. The House on 92nd Street (1945) — 4 pts
15. From Hell to Texas (1958 — 4 pts
15. The Sons of Katie Elder (1965) — 4 pts
19. 23 Paces to Baker Street (1956) — 3.5 pts
20. The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (1935) — 3 pts
20. Seven Thieves (1960) — 3 pts
20. The Trail of the Lonesome Pine (1936) — 3 pts
20. The Desert Fox (1951) — 3 pts
20. How the West Was Won (1962) — 3 pts
25. Johnny Apollo (1940) — 2 pts
25. Now and Forever (1934) — 2 pts
27. Legend of the Lost (1957) -- 1 pt
27. Down to the Sea in Ships (1949) — 1 pt
27. Fourteen Hours (1951) —1 pt
30. The Black Rose (1950) — 0.5 pts
31. The Bottom of the Bottle (1956) — 0.3 pts

[wba]

@ flip

I just finished a Hathaway film 2 minutes ago and changed my ballot, if that's ok with you ( I EXCHANGED MY NO. 4):


01. Nevada Smith (1966)
02. How the West Was Won (1962)
03. The Dark Corner (1946)
04. Legend of the Lost (1957)

Hathaway seen: 8

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that's cool with me, the more informed the ballots are, the better the poll! i was going to watch a whole slate of hathaway films for this, but then i watched two of his obscurities and was underwhelmed and kind of lost interest.

one thing i did find interesting was i've seen 17 hathaway films, and for most directors i'd think that would give me some handle on their most appreciated work, but some ballots in this thread i've seen not even one film from, so i might have missed a lot of hathaway's best

[karl]

OK. Five that didn't make any lists. For you, Flippah.

1. Nob Hill
2. From Hell to Texas
3. The Desert Fox
4. Now and Forever
5. Down to the Sea in Ships

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OK. Five that didn't make any lists. For you, Flippah.

1. Nob Hill
2. From Hell to Texas
3. The Desert Fox
4. Now and Forever
5. Down to the Sea in Ships

thanks karl! tho you are allowed to vote for films that already received votes if you want to

yet another hathaway ballot from which i've seen none, so i've got some viewing to do

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ended up making it a long list, it's up at letterboxd:

https://letterboxd.com/fliptrotsky/list ... -poll-313/