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SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:20 pm
by flip
Polling the films of director Leo McCarey

The rules:

- your list can include no more than half of the McCarey films you've seen, up to a maximum of 5. So if you've seen seven of his films, for example, you can list only a top 3. It's only if you've seen ten or more of his films than you can list the maximum of five.

- i'll assume ballots are ranked unless you tell me otherwise. unranked ballots are fine.

- deadline for ballots: next Friday, in seven days, whatever day that is

- if anyone is watching films for these polls, then i'll extend the deadline up to three days, if someone requests an extension

- next poll: whoever posts the first ballot in this thread is free to nominate the director we poll next, unless you've nominated in this round already (everyone should get a chance). Already nominated this round: greennui, bure, roscoe, kanafani, greg x, silga, oscarwerner, john ryan, mrcarmady, umbugbene, evelyn, m arkadin, jiri, brian d, nrh, rischka, aberration, searchlike

umbugbene created an index on letterboxd of all of our previous polls here: letterboxd.com/umbugbene/list/index-of-all-scfz-director-polls/

one rule for nominees: at least 3 scfzers need to have seen 10+ of a nominee's films, or at least 4 scfzers need to have seen at least 8 of the nom's films, so if it isn't clear if that will be the case, we'll confirm that's true before moving forward

if 24 hours pass after a poll opens, and no one eligible to nominate has posted a ballot, then i'll nominate someone, and then we'll start over, and everyone will be able to nominate again

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:23 pm
by flip
The Milky Way
Liberty
Once Upon a Honeymoon
Indiscreet
Big Business


seen ten, but haven't seen two or three of his best-known, might try to address that

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:31 pm
by Evelyn Library P.I.
Seen 8.

1. Ruggles of Red Gap (1935)
2. The Awful Truth (1937)
3. Liberty (1929)
4. Habeas Corpus (1928)

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:58 pm
by greennui
11.

Duck Soup

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:02 pm
by MrCarmady
5

The Awful Truth
Duck Soup

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:09 pm
by Umbugbene
Seen 7, kinda surprised it's so few. I can't remember Duck Soup, Going My Way, or The Awful Truth well enough to vote for them, and I don't care for An Affair to Remember, Make Way for Tomorrow, or The Bells of St. Mary's. But there is one I wholeheartedly endorse... not sure whether this or A Night at the Opera is my favorite Marx Brothers movie:

1. Love Happy

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:11 pm
by nrh
The Bells of St. Mary's
Ruggles of Red Gap
An Affair to Remember
Love Affair
My Son John

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:12 pm
by Searchlike
I have some rewatching to do, so I'll be posting my ballot near the deadline. My Top 5 contenders consist of about 9 or 10 movies, 5 of them already represented on nrh's list. I'm glad to know I won't be the only one voting for both of his love affairs (McCarey, you dog).

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 pm
by St. Gloede
Seen 10:

Make Way for Tomorrow
Going My Way
Big Business
Liberty

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:04 pm
by brian d
seen 4

duck soup
ruggles of red gap

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:30 pm
by Roscoe
DUCK SOUP
RUGGLES OF RED GAP
MIGHTY LIKE A MOOSE
BIG BUSINESS
BATTLE OF THE CENTURY

That order can't be right. We'll see. Nice to be able to give a shout out to MIGHTY LIKE A MOOSE, a particularly charming short comedy starring Charley Chase, and the sublime RUGGLES OF RED GAP might inch into the top spot.

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:14 pm
by ofrene
Seen 5

Make Way for Tomorrow
An Affair to Remember

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:31 pm
by rischka
good to see a vote for my son john 8-)

the awful truth
make way for tomorrow
ruggles of red gap
my son john
duck soup

seen 10

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:51 pm
by nrh
rischka wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:31 pm good to see a vote for my son john 8-)
you know when j-ro refers to a movie as "deranged" you are in for a good time :cowboy:

and very much like this sentence from him on mccarey in general - "My own sense of McCarey’s contradictory singularity as an auteur is that he’s both an ideological primitive and a highly sophisticated dialectician who makes the comedy of embarrassment and the tragedy of excruciation virtually interchangeable and equally incapable of achieving any resolution. "

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm
by rischka
that's well-said. and i really never liked the awful truth until rewatching a few years back. i think irene dunne grew on me

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
by nrh
just last month my mother told me she had watch both awful truth and my favorite wife and preferred the latter; i have been more disappointed by family memembers in the past it is true but this one was hard to bear. awful truth will never be my favorite mccarey but the way he conducts grant and dunne is just amazing, favorite wife feels so flat by comparison.

surprised to see more votes for going my way (one of his worst movies) than for the sequel bells of st. mary's (one of his best).

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:43 pm
by flip
nrh wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm surprised to see more votes for going my way (one of his worst movies) than for the sequel bells of st. mary's (one of his best).
makes sense tho bc the people who might agree with you often wouldn't bother to even watch a sequel

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 pm
by rischka
yeah i haven't seen either. very low tolerance for bing crosby tbh

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:49 pm
by nrh
flip wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:43 pm
nrh wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm surprised to see more votes for going my way (one of his worst movies) than for the sequel bells of st. mary's (one of his best).
makes sense tho bc the people who might agree with you often wouldn't bother to even watch a sequel
but they are putting it on their lists so they must have liked it. my theory is everyone watched it with their grandmas (my grandma was a big fan of going my way, much to my grandfather's irritation).

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:11 am
by Holymanm
only seen one, hated it... duck soup? more like (wolfgang) puck soup

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:25 am
by thoxans
Umbugbene wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:09 pmSeen 6, kinda surprised it's so few
you think that's impressive? watch this... seen zero! booyah

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:28 am
by flip
nrh wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:49 pm but they are putting it on their lists so they must have liked it.
what i mean is: if they agree with you that going my way is one of mccarey's worst, they might never get to bells of st marys at all.

the people putting going my way on their lists clearly don't agree with you :)

i haven't seen either but maybe i'll try to watch both for the poll

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:43 am
by Searchlike
Holymanm wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:11 am only seen one, hated it... duck soup? more like (wolfgang) puck soup
That one's not really representative of McCarey's output, just saying.

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:42 am
by Umbugbene
nrh wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pmsurprised to see more votes for going my way (one of his worst movies) than for the sequel bells of st. mary's (one of his best).
In my case I'm working with a very distant memory and a limited selection of McCareys. Of the six I've seen I strongly disliked two... and I haven't seen Bells of St. Mary's.

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:30 am
by ---
seen 10 like a g6

Make Way for Tomorrow (Leo McCarey, 1937)
Ruggles of Red Gap (Leo McCarey, 1935)
Going My Way (Leo McCarey, 1944)
Duck Soup (Leo McCarey, 1933)
The Bells of St. Mary's (Leo McCarey, 1945)

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:03 pm
by RogerTheMovieManiac
Hi flip (and thanks for the friendly words in the DtC thread)!

I've seen seven from McCarey. These three are all pretty great (in my eyes, at least!):

1. LOVE AFFAIR
2. DUCK SOUP
3. THE AWFUL TRUTH

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 pm
by rischka
gonna watch rare 128 mins director's cut of 'good sam,' according to tag gallagher, the only one to watch. quality looks quite atrocious though...

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Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:54 pm
by Searchlike
rischka wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 pm gonna watch rare 128 mins director's cut of 'good sam,' according to tag gallagher, the only one to watch. quality looks quite atrocious though...
I'd love to watch that version, Good Sam is one of my favorites, but I think Tag-Gal may be exaggerating.

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:55 pm
by rischka
honestly it's a pretty funny movie but the pacing is bizarre

Re: SCFZ poll: Leo McCarey

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:57 pm
by Searchlike
Where did you watch it, rischka?