Doubling the Canon 2021 Update - Results!

[Umbugbene]

https://letterboxd.com/angelg/list/doub ... -nominees/

Many thanks Angel! Besides making my ballot a breeze to fill out, this will also help me find available/interesting nominations to watch.

[flip]

i sent in a ballot just a minute ago

[sally]

i'm nearly done rating but there is no list in the world that needs more fucking ingmar bergman on it. my rating has gone a bit exasperated-haywire as a result

[Angel]

i'm nearly done rating but there is no list in the world that needs more fucking ingmar bergman on it. my rating has gone a bit exasperated-haywire as a result

Directors with multiple entries in the DtC 2020 list:
Mikio Naruse-10 (5 of them have been promoted to TSPDT, so he is no longer topping this ranking)
Satyajit Ray-9
Éric Rohmer-8
Frederick Wiseman-8
Fritz Lang-8
Yasujirô Ozu-8
James Benning-7
Manoel de Oliveira-7
Anthony Mann-6
Rainer Werner Fassbinder-6
Raoul Walsh-6
Bryan Forbes-5
Hiroshi Shimizu-5
Ingmar Bergman-5
Jean Grémillon-5
Mani Kaul-5
Robert Siodmak-5
William Wyler-5
Akira Kurosawa-4
Claude Chabrol-4
Ernst Lubitsch-4
Franco Piavoli-4
Frank Borzage-4
Guy Gilles-4
Helmut Käutner-4
Jacques Rivette-4
Jean Epstein-4
Jean-Pierre Melville-4
João César Monteiro-4
John Ford-4
Josef von Sternberg-4
Julien Duvivier-4
Kihachi Okamoto-4
Lino Brocka-4
Louis Malle-4
Marcel L'Herbier-4
Masaki Kobayashi-4
Maurice Pialat-4
Max Ophüls-4
Miklós Jancsó-4
Mitchell Leisen-4
Pietro Germi-4
Raoul Ruiz-4
William A. Wellman-4
Yasuzô Masumura-4
Yoshishige Yoshida-4
Aki Kaurismäki-3
Akio Jissôji-3
Alberto Cavalcanti-3
Aleksey German-3
Anthony Asquith-3
Bahram Beizai-3
Bertrand Tavernier-3
Billy Wilder-3
Chantal Akerman-3
Claude Sautet-3
Costa-Gavras-3
Dariush Mehrjui-3
Dimitri Kirsanoff-3
Douglas Sirk-3
Frank Capra-3
Frantisek Vlácil-3
Georg Wilhelm Pabst-3
Grigoriy Kozintsev-3
Henri-Georges Clouzot-3
Howard Hawks-3
Hsiao-Hsien Hou-3
Jacques Feyder-3
Jacques Tourneur-3
Jean-Marie Straub (& Danièle Huillet)-3
Joris Ivens-3
Jules Dassin-3
Karel Kachyna-3
Keisuke Kinoshita-3
Ken Burns-3
Kenji Mizoguchi-3
Krzysztof Kieslowski-3
Krzysztof Zanussi-3
Marcel Hanoun-3
Michael Curtiz-3
Otto Preminger-3
Phil Karlson-3
Robert E. Fulton-3
Roberto Rossellini-3
Shôhei Imamura-3
Sidney Lumet-3
Sohrab Shahid Saless-3
Tengiz Abuladze-3
Tomu Uchida-3
Valerio Zurlini-3
Werner Herzog-3
William Dieterle-3
Yûzô Kawashima-3
Yves Robert-3
Zoltán Fábri-3
Abel Gance-2
Adolfo Aristarain-2
Agnès Varda-2
Aleksandr Sokurov-2
Alessandro Blasetti-2
Allan King-2
André De Toth-2
Andrzej Wajda-2
Antonio Pietrangeli-2
Artavazd Peleshian-2
Arthur Penn-2
Basil Dearden-2
Bi Gan-2
Bing Wang-2
Budd Boetticher-2
Buster Keaton (& Edward F. Cline)-2
Chia-Liang Liu-2
Claire Denis-2
Clarence Brown-2
Claude Berri-2
Delmer Daves-2
Dino Risi-2
Edgar Reitz-2
Edward Dmytryk-2
Edward Yang-2
Elia Kazan-2
Ermanno Olmi-2
Fernando Fernán Gómez-2
Gábor Bódy-2
Giuseppe De Santis-2
Govindan Aravindan-2
Grigoriy Chukhray-2
György Fehér-2
Heinosuke Gosho-2
Henri Verneuil-2
Henry Hathaway-2
Henry King-2
Hideo Gosha-2
Hinri Barakat-2
Hirokazu Koreeda-2
Hiroshi Teshigahara-2
Jacques Doillon-2
Jan Troell-2
Jean Renoir-2
Jean-Claude Brisseau-2
Jean-Luc Godard-2
Jerzy Kawalerowicz-2
Jin Xie-2
John M. Stahl-2
Johnnie To-2
José Luis Guerín-2
Joseph L. Mankiewicz-2
Joseph Losey-2
Joseph Strick-2
Juraj Herz-2
Kaneto Shindô-2
Károly Makk-2
Kazuo Kuroki-2
Kei Kumai-2
Ken Loach-2
King Hu-2
King Vidor-2
Kon Ichikawa-2
Konrad Wolf-2
Lionel Rogosin-2
Louis Feuillade-2
Luis Alcoriza-2
Manuel Mur Oti-2
Marcel Carné-2
Marguerite Duras-2
Mario Monicelli-2
Martin Scorsese-2
Masahiro Shinoda-2
Masud Kimiai-2
Mauritz Stiller-2
Mervyn LeRoy-2
Mick Jackson-2
Mike Leigh-2
Mikhail Kalatozov-2
Mohsen Makhmalbaf-2
Nagisa Ôshima-2
Nikos Koundouros-2
Noriaki Tsuchimoto-2
Pál Fejös-2
Patricio Guzmán-2
Paul Schrader-2
Paul Seed-2
Peter Bogdanovich-2
Peter Greenaway-2
Peter Watkins-2
Philippe Garrel-2
Preston Sturges-2
Raymond Bernard-2
René Clément-2
Richard Brooks-2
Robert Altman-2
Robert Bresson-2
Robert Kramer-2
Robert Wise-2
Roberto Gavaldón-2
Ron Fricke-2
Ross McElwee-2
Sacha Guitry-2
Sergio Leone-2
Servando González-2
Sharon Lockhart-2
Shinsuke Ogawa-2
Shûji Terayama-2
Shyam Benegal-2
Susumu Hani-2
Sydney Pollack-2
Takeshi Kitano-2
Tay Garnett-2
Teinosuke Kinugasa-2
Tomás Gutiérrez Alea-2
Toshio Matsumoto-2
Victor Sjöström-2
Vittorio De Seta-2
Vsevolod Pudovkin-2
Wim Wenders-2
Yimou Zhang-2
Youssef Chahine-2
Yves Allégret-2

[sally]

horrible

[Umbugbene]

Sent my ballot just now. I've seen 326 of the nominees, of which I've rated 228.

[sally]

sent my ballot angel!

(with a sigh, and the hope that one day there's a list not dominated by choices from teenage boys, lots of 'radical' stuff or angsty sadboi)

seen 354 and rated all of them, umbugbene how come you didn't rate some you've seen?

angel do you want write-ins individually as and when i watch them, or save them all up and send together on the 25th/26th?

[Umbugbene]

umbugbene how come you didn't rate some you've seen?

I've only recorded my ratings since 2008. Before that I only ranked my highest-rated films (9 or 10/10), and my memory's fuzzy for much of the rest.

[sally]

ah i guess that makes sense. i had little memory of some films despite logging them so i gave those a 3 since i figured if i loved it or hated it i'd have remembered...

[Umbugbene]

Heh, I can see how that would work. Unfortunately for me though I can't trust my youthful impressions. A lot of great films didn't look so great on my first viewing (and vice-versa).

[Angel]

angel do you want write-ins individually as and when i watch them, or save them all up and send together on the 25th/26th?

As you wish. Limited write-ins will be accepted even a few extra days after the deadline, time that I will need to put everything together.

[Angel]

Status report

The players (29):
beavis
cayh
ChrisReynolds
cinephage
Dolwphin
DudeLanez
filmbantha
flavo5000
flip
frbrown
greennui
Ivan0716
joachimt
Lakigigar
Mifune
mightysparks
Onderhond
Perception de Ambiguity
pitchorneirda
RolandKirkSunglasses
Silga
sol
St. Gloede
Teproc
tobias
twodeadmagpies
Umbugbene
zhangalan
zzzorf

Average number of voted films per voter and average rating overall:
247-3,43 (last 5 years average: 3,34)

Top voters:
beavis-578
St. Gloede-561
joachimt-442
flavo5000-422
sol-400

Highest average rating:
Lakigigar-4,68
greennui-4,29
cinephage-4,24
Silga-4,06
Dolwphin-4,02

Lowest average rating:
mightysparks-2,38
Ivan0716-2,43
St. Gloede-2,85
DudeLanez-2,92
RolandKirkSunglasses-2,96

Most voted films of each decade:
Suspense-18
Underworld-17
Arigatô-san-16
Brute Force-21
Die Brücke-19
Charade-24
La planète sauvage-23
Tenkû no shiro Rapyuta-22
Pi-23
Road to Perdition-22
Prisoners-24

Nominator of the highest rated films so far:
filmbantha
Hunziker
cayh
flavo5000
Umbugbene

Lowest rated films so far:
The Dante Quartet
A Night at the Roxbury
300
Hustlers
L'orribile segreto del Dr. Hichcock

Films without a single vote:

Spoiler!

...und deine Liebe auch
A Mordida
Abolição
Akenfield
Alone in the Wilderness Part II
Ángel de fuego
Angry Inuk
Áo lua Hà Dông
Belyy Bim Chernoe ukho
Body Rock
Buddies
Central Park
Days of Waiting
Deformer
Dominion
Don Cesare di Bazan
Duct Tape Forever
Dvadtsat shest komissarov
Dzien swira
Dzma
El silencio de otros
Eye of God
Fiamma che non si spegne
Fuori dal giorno
Glória
Gondola
Grauzone
Gun Hill Road
Guns
Hjertestart
Huo shan qing xue
I topi grigi
Ijaazat
Il dono
Il ne suffit pas que Dieu soit avec les pauvres
Il peccato
Infancia clandestina
Ise Yarar Bir Sey
Jibun no ana no nakade
Jivaro
Kirk Douglas: Before I Forget
La casa Emak Bakia
Lage Raho Munna Bhai
Las aguas bajan turbias
Lasermannen
Los peloteros
Luk e-san
Mama, ich lebe
Martin pleure
Mascara
Massacre
Mechta
Nebulosan
Nesting Dolls
Odissea
Ordnung
Passing Strangers
Pushwagner
Rasendes Grün mit Pferden
Requiem for Sally
River Yar
Ruby Gentry
Semnadtsat mgnoveniy vesny
Smiley's People
Taekwondo
Tharlo
The Churning of Kalki
The Half-Breed
The Illiac Passion
The Kidnappers
The Other Side
The Road to Glory
The Salt Mines
The Syrian Bride
The Tattered Dress
The Young Pope
Through an Open Window
Tout un hiver sans feu
Usuzumi no sakura
Vagabunda
Vaveragrogh
Via Mala
Vigil in the Night
Xue er
Yomigaeru kinrô
Zero Patience
Zugvögel - ... einmal nach Inari

Excerpt from the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
(please check for any mistakes)

Remember that you can vote even if you have not participated in the nomination phase.

[sally]

aw, well, even though watching those no-votes is pointless, since i guess they're unlikely to get enough votes now to qualify, i still feel like it's those neglected orphans that i should aim at (anything really to help organise my DtC watchlist which turned out to be longer than the number of films i ended up voting for)

actually really fancied checking out los peloteros, (even though i despise children! groups of kids are okay though) & it's on the instituto de cultura puertorriqueña youtube channel, but i don't have any subtitles for it. Anyone got some eng ones for the version that's on there? (1:23:21)?

also curious about poor freda's hated hichcock - couldn't find it at first but now it has appeared so will see if it's as awful as suggested.

but come on people, no votes for mechta? when we've got DtC running, a 1943 poll running, and not-jiri's wide-open comrade thread gagging for input? madness. am going to watch it right now.

[niminy-piminy]

not-jiri's wide-open comrade thread gagging for madness input

more than agree!!!!!!!

[Angel]

Not my fault, I did the Spanish translation for Mechta a decade ago. It's not my favorite Romm, though (Pyshka, Trinadtsat).

[Searchlike]

Not my fault, I did the Spanish translation

I mean, not your average, everyday angel but the Angel that can ocasionally be found on the comment section of Jesús Cortés' blog? I never post there, but I've been wondering this for a while now.

[Angel]

Not my fault, I did the Spanish translation

I mean, not your average, everyday angel but the Angel that can ocasionally be found on the comment section of Jesús Cortés' blog? I never post there, but I've been wondering this for a while now.

The very same. I feel comfortable in Miguel Marías' gang.

[Searchlike]

You sure hang out with the best, glad to know you're a champion too.

[Angel]

Status report

The players (34):
72aicm
beavis
cayado-coro
cayh
ChrisReynolds
cinephage
Dolwphin
DudeLanez
filmbantha
flavo5000
flip
frbrown
greennui
Ivan0716
joachimt
Lakigigar
Mauries
Mifune
mightysparks
Onderhond
Perception de Ambiguity
pitchorneirda
RolandKirkSunglasses
Silga
Smoover
sol
St. Gloede
Teproc
tobias
twodeadmagpies
Umbugbene
Wille
zhangalan
zzzorf

Average number of voted films per voter and average rating overall:
259-3,40 (last 5 years average: 3,34)

Top voters:
beavis-578
St. Gloede-561
72aicm-453
joachimt-442
cayado-coro-439
sol-430

Highest average rating:
Lakigigar-4,68
greennui-4,29
Mauries-4,28
cinephage-4,24
Silga-4,06
Dolwphin-4,02

Lowest average rating:
mightysparks-2,38
Ivan0716-2,43
St. Gloede-2,85
DudeLanez-2,92
cayado-coro-2,96
RolandKirkSunglasses-2,96

Most voted films of each decade:
Suspense-20
Underworld-20
Arigatô-san-19
Brute Force-25
The Man Who Knew Too Much-23
Charade-28
La planète sauvage-26
Tenkû no shiro Rapyuta-25
Pi-27
Road to Perdition-26
Prisoners-28

Nominator of the highest rated films so far:
Hunziker
filmbantha
flavo5000
cayh
monclivie
Hawk

Lowest rated films so far:
A Night at the Roxbury
300
The Dante Quartet
Stuck on You
Atomic Blonde
This Is It

Films without a single vote:

Spoiler!

...und deine Liebe auch
Abolição
Ángel de fuego
Angry Inuk
Áo lua Hà Dông
Belyy Bim Chernoe ukho
Central Park
Days of Waiting
Dominion
Don Cesare di Bazan
Duct Tape Forever
Dvadtsat shest komissarov
Dzma
El silencio de otros
Eye of God
Fuori dal giorno
Gondola
Grauzone
Gun Hill Road
Guns
Huo shan qing xue
I topi grigi
Ijaazat
Il ne suffit pas que Dieu soit avec les pauvres
Il peccato
Ise Yarar Bir Sey
Jibun no ana no nakade
Kirk Douglas: Before I Forget
La casa Emak Bakia
Lage Raho Munna Bhai
Los peloteros
Luk e-san
Mama, ich lebe
Mascara
Odissea
Pushwagner
Requiem for Sally
Semnadtsat mgnoveniy vesny
Smiley's People
Taekwondo
Tharlo
The Churning of Kalki
The Half-Breed
The Illiac Passion
The Kidnappers
The Other Side
The Salt Mines
The Tattered Dress
The Young Pope
Through an Open Window
Usuzumi no sakura
Vagabunda
Via Mala
Xue er
Yomigaeru kinrô

Excerpt from the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
(please check for any mistakes)

Remember that you can vote even if you have not participated in the nomination phase.

[Angel]

Status report

The players (51):
72aicm
AB537
Angel Glez
beavis
cayado-coro
cayh
ChrisReynolds
cinephage
Dolwphin
DudeLanez
filmbantha
flavo5000
flip
frbrown
Gordon_Gekko
greennui
Hawk
hurluberlu
insomnius
Ivan0716
Jimi Antiloop
joachimt
kongs_speech
Lakigigar
lineuphere
longsilence
Mauries
Mifune
mightysparks
Onderhond
Opio
Perception de Ambiguity
perceval
pitchorneirda
RogerTheMovieManiac88
RolandKirkSunglasses
Silga
Smoover
sol
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Teproc
tobias
Torgo
toromash
twodeadmagpies
Umbugbene
Wille
zhangalan
zomgmouse
zzzorf

Average number of voted films per voter and average rating overall:
263-3,42 (last 5 years average: 3,34)

Top voters:
Angel Glez-775
insomnius-603
beavis-578
St. Gloede-561
flavo5000-506
72aicm-476
longsilence-471

Highest average rating:
Lakigigar-4,68
toromash-4,62
zomgmouse-4,38
greennui-4,31
Mauries-4,28
cinephage-4,24
RogerTheMovieManiac88-4,10

Lowest average rating:
mightysparks-2,38
Ivan0716-2,43
Angel Glez-2,62
St. Gloede-2,85
DudeLanez-2,92
cayado-coro-2,96
RolandKirkSunglasses-2,96

Excerpt 1 from the spreadsheet:
https://1drv.ms/x/s!ArCAuhmbxCeRfchLupH ... w?e=YJzaSI
(please check for any mistakes)

Excerpt 2 from the spreadsheet:
https://1drv.ms/x/s!ArCAuhmbxCeRf8r7HVQ ... 8?e=D7Hq9q
(you will surely guess the meaning of the colors)

Remember that you can vote even if you have not participated in the nomination phase.

[sally]

Angel, i sent my write-ins to you

[Angel]

Last call, ladies and gentlemen (except for those with health or technical issues)!

Don't tell me we're going to get the lowest turnout in years.

[Angel]

Help: I am looking for the original nominators (in 2017 or before) of the following films:
Ce jour-là (2003)
Disneyland: Mars and Beyond (1957)
Hringurinn (1985)
I Do Not Know What It Is I Am Like (1986)
I Think They Call Him John (1964)
La proie du vent (1927)
La rivière du hibou (1961)
Ok-hui-ui yeonghwa (2010)
Pourquoi Israël (1973)
'Rameau's Nephew' by Diderot (Thanx to Dennis Young) by Wilma Schoen (1974)
Regarding Penelope's Wake (2002)
Scissere (1982)
Simone Barbès ou la vertu (1980)
Ulica Graniczna (1948)
Where I Am Is Here (1964)
Winifred Wagner und die Geschichte des Hauses Wahnfried von 1914-1975 (1976)

[rischka]

i think i nominated hringurinn but not sure i was the ORIGINAL nominator

i'm sorry i didn't vote this year angel

[St. Gloede]

I nominated Winifred Wagner.

[Angel]

i think i nominated hringurinn but not sure i was the ORIGINAL nominator

i'm sorry i didn't vote this year angel

Okay, thanks.

I can still open the backdoor for you.

[rischka]

i've got some time now, i'll fill it out and get it back today!

[rischka]

SENT - thx angel, some of my favorites were on there!~

20 perfect sixes, thx to all those re votes

cheers to whoever nominated Les Films rêvés ♥♥♥

[Angel]

The players (79):
72aicm
AB537
Angel Glez
beasterne
beavis
blocho
Carmel1379
cayado-coro
cayh
ChrisReynolds
cinephage
connordenney
Dolwphin
DudeLanez
DulceDoes
Ebbywebby
Fergenaprido
filmbantha
flavo5000
flip
frbrown
George Eastman
Gordon_Gekko
greennui
Hawk
hurluberlu
insomnius
Ivan0716
jdidaco
jeff_v
Jimi Antiloop
joachimt
karldaniel
klaus78
kongs_speech
Labraxas
Lakigigar
lineuphere
Lonewolf2003
longsilence
Mario Gaborović
matthewscott8
Mauries
Melvelet
Mifune
mightysparks
mjf314
monclivie
MovieGuide1
MrCarmady
OldAle1
Onderhond
Opio
ororama
Panunzio
PeacefulAnarchy
Perception de Ambiguity
perceval
pitchorneirda
rischka
RogerTheMovieManiac88
RolandKirkSunglasses
Silga
Smoover
sol
sortile9io
St. Gloede
Teproc
tobias
Torgo
toromash
twodeadmagpies
Umbugbene
weirdboy
Wille
zhangalan
zomgmouse
zuma
zzzorf

Average number of voted films per voter and average rating overall:
276-3,41 (average 2017-2021: 3,33)

Top voters:
jdidaco-915
Angel Glez-781
beavis-639
insomnius-603
St. Gloede-585
flavo5000-529
OldAle1-515
72aicm-486
longsilence-483
zuma-474

Highest average rating:
Lakigigar-4,68
toromash-4,62
beasterne-4,38
zomgmouse-4,36
greennui-4,31
Mauries-4,28
cinephage-4,24
MrCarmady-4,23
Lonewolf2003-4,10
RogerTheMovieManiac88-4,09

Lowest average rating:
mightysparks-2,38
George Eastman-2,41
Ivan0716-2,41
jeff_v-2,47
connordenney-2,56
Angel Glez-2,61
St. Gloede-2,81
DudeLanez-2,87
Mario Gaborović-2,87
cayado-coro-2,96

I wish to thank all the enthusiastic participants, who cast their votes from all around the world!

...Data processing...

[Angel]

In the coming days:
- 2021 ballot results
- DtC 2020 demoted films
- DtC 2017-2020 promoted films
- New DtC list

Ready, steady...