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SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:18 pm
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10. A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang, 1991)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:19 pm
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9. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:21 pm
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8. Manoel’s Destinies (Raul Ruiz, 1984)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:22 pm
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7. L’Argent (Robert Bresson, 1983)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 pm
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6. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 pm
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5. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin, 1931)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:24 pm
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4. Edvard Munch (Peter Watkins, 1974)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:25 pm
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3. News From Home (Chantal Akerman, 1977)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:26 pm
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2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:27 pm
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...and the #1 film in our fifth annual top 100 films poll is...

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:28 pm
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1. Playtime (Jacques Tati, 1967)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:36 pm
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I'm considering posting a top 200 to letterboxd, because after the top 40 or so, big blocks of films were tied, including all of the films from #89-#115, and it seems weird to post a top 115, and weird to use a tiebreaker to truncate that block. A few details about the poll:

- 1499 different films received votes
- only 330 films received multiple votes, so 1169 films got just one vote
- to make the top 100, a film needed 9 points, and to make the top 199, a film needed 7 points (#200 had 6.2 pts)
- i used letterboxd views as a tiebreaker - fewer views meant a higher ranking. That didn't matter much near the top of the poll, but from roughly #40 onwards, several films were tied

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:37 pm
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... and the complete top 200:

1. Playtime (Jacques Tati, 1967)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
3. News From Home (Chantal Akerman, 1977)
4. Edvard Munch (Peter Watkins, 1974)
5. City Lights (Charlie Chaplin, 1931)
6. The Rules of the Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)
7. L’Argent (Robert Bresson, 1983)
8. Manoel’s Destinies (Raul Ruiz, 1984)
9. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
10. A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang, 1991)
11. Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr, 2000)
12. Last Year at Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961)
13. L’Avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1960)
14. A Woman Under the Influence (John Cassavetes, 1974)
15. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
16. Canyon Passage (Jacques Tourneur, 1946)
17. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (Sergei Parajanov, 1965)
18. Celine and Julie Go Boating (Jacques Rivette, 1974)
19. Le Trou (Jacques Becker, 1960)
20. L’Atalante (Jean Vigo, 1934)
21. Notorious (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946)
22. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960)
23. Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)
24. Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
25. Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2001)
26. Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
27. Joker (Raju Murugan, 2016)
28. Die Parallelstrasse (Ferdinand Khittl, 1962)
29. Moving (Shinji Somai, 1993)
30. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
31. The Godfather: Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
32. Green Snake (Tsui Hark, 1993)
33. Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963)
34. Fire in Castilla (Jose Val del Omar, 1961)
35. Le Bonheur (Agnès Varda, 1965)
36. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Jacques Demy, 1964)
37. Day Of the Outlaw (Andre de Toth, 1959)
38. Picnic at Hanging Rock (Peter Weir, 1975)
39. Pestonjee (Vijaya Mehta, 1988)
40. The Song of the Scarlet Flower (Teuvo Tulio, 1938)
41. Femmes Femmes (Paul Vecchiali, 1974)
42. Nostos: The Return (Franco Piavoli, 1989)
43. We Won’t Grow Old Together (Maurice Pialat, 1972)
44. Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
45. Viaggio in Italia (Roberto Rossellini, 1954)
46. Only Angels Have Wings (Howard Hawks, 1939)
47. I Walked With A Zombie (Jacques Tourneur, 1943)
48. Seconds (John Frankenheimer, 1966)
49. Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)
50. Days of Heaven (Terrence Malick, 1978)
51. Chungking Express (Wong Kar-wai, 1994)
52. Avargal (K Balachander, 1977)
53. Goodbye South, Goodbye (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1996)
54. There’s Always Tomorrow (Douglas Sirk, 1956)
55. The Ballad of Cable Hogue (Sam Peckinpah, 1970)
56. M Hulot's Holiday (Jacques Tati, 1953)
57. Army of Shadows (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1969)
58. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (FW Murnau, 1927)
59. Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968)
60. Heat (Michael Mann, 1995)
61. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz, 1942)
62. Close-Up (Abbas Kiarostami, 1990)
63. Aag (Raj Kapoor, 1948)
64. Attakathi (Pa. Ranjith, 2012)
65. Du cote d’Orouet (Jacques Rozier, 1971)
66. Doomed Love (Manoel de Oliveira, 1978)
67. Khroustaliov, My Car! (Alexei German, 1998)
68. Small Change (Francois Truffaut, 1976)
69. The Aviator’s Wife (Eric Rohmer, 1981)
70. Some Came Running (Vincente Minnelli, 1958)
71. Kings of the Road (Wim Wenders, 1976)
72. The Ascent (Larisa Shepitko, 1997)
73. Our Hospitality (Buster Keaton, 1923)
74. Chimes at Midnight (Orson Welles, 1965)
75. Two-Lane Blacktop (Monte Hellman, 1971)
76. My Darling Clementine (John Ford, 1946)
77. Alphaville (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
78. Blow-Up ( Michelangelo Antonioni, 1966)
79. Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972)
80. 8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
81. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
82. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
83. Kanchana Sita (Govindan Aravindan, 1977)
84. Meeting a Milestone (Goutam Ghose, 1989)
85. L’Homme Atlantique (Marguerite Duras, 1981)
86. An Inn At Osaka (Heinosuke Gosho, 1954)
87. Hyenas (Djibril Diop Mambety, 1992)
88. Early Summer (Yasujiro Ozu, 1951)
89. Earth Light (Guy Gilles, 1970)
90. Angel Guts: Red Classroom (Chusei Sone, 1979)
91. Bandits of Orgosolo (Vittorio de Seta, 1961)
92. Voices Through Time (Franco Piavoli, 1996)
93. Rangeela (Ram Gopal Varma, 1995)
94. La Rupture (Claude Chabrol, 1970)
95. Model Shop (Jacques Demy, 1969)
96. Zorns Lemma (Hollis Frampton, 1970)
97. India Song (Marguerite Duras, 1975)
98. City of Pirates (Raul Ruiz, 1983)
99. He Who Gets Slapped (Victor Sjostrom, 1924)
100. Il Posto (Ermanno Olmi, 1961)
101. Morocco (Josef von Sternberg, 1930)
102. The Mother and the Whore (Jean Eustache, 1973)
103. A Moment of Innocence (Mohsen Makhmalbaf, 1996)
104. A New Leaf (Elaine May, 1971)
105. The Sword of Doom (Kihachi Okamoto, 1966)
106. The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)
107. The Brown Bunny (Vincent Gallo, 2003)
108. An Autumn Afternoon (Yasujiro Ozu, 1962)
109. Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1954)
110. 3 Women (Robert Altman, 1977)
111. The Shop Around the Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
112. Crash (David Cronenberg, 1996)
113. La Dolce Vita (Federico Fellini, 1960)
114. Lawrence of Arabia (David Lean, 1962)
115. Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
116. Ajantrik (Ritwik Ghatak, 1958)
117. Oxhide II (Liu Jiayin, 2009)
118. Sunset Boulevard (Billy Wilder, 1950)
119. Nirmalyam (MT Vasudevan Nair, 1973)
120. Rajnigandha (Basu Chatterjee, 1974)
121. The Naked Dawn (Edgar Ulmer, 1955)
122. Birds, Orphans and Fools (Juraj Jakubisko, 1969)
123. Nothing But a Man (Michael Roemer, 1964)
124. Toute une nuit (Chantal Akerman, 1982)
125. Die Puppe (Ernst Lubitsch, 1919)
126. Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle (Eric Rohmer, 1987)
127. Daisy Kenyon (Otto Preminger, 1947)
128. City Girl (F.W. Murnau, 1930)
129. Charulata (Satyajit Ray,1964)
130. Hatari! (Howard Hawks, 1962)
131. A Summer's Tale (Eric Rohmer, 1996)
132. Goodbye, Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming-liang, 2003)
133. They Shoot Horses, Don’t They? (Sydney Pollack, 1969)
134. Local Hero (Bill Forsyth, 1983)
135. The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer, 1986)
136. Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophuls, 1948)
137. Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
138. Stroszek (Werner Herzog, 1977)
139. The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1975)
140. A Man Escaped (Robert Bresson, 1956)
141. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci ,1970)
142. In A Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)
143. Mysterious Skin (Gregg Araki, 2004)
144. Showgirls (Paul Verhoeven, 1995)
145. La Jetee (Chris Marker, 1962)
146. The General (Clyde Bruckman + Buster Keaton, 1926)
147. Mommy (Xavier Dolan, 2014)
148. Eyes Wide Shut (Stanley Kubrick, 1999)
149. 12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957)
150. Mind of Clay (Mani Kaul, 1985)
151. Raining in the Mountain (King Hu, 1979)
152. Ornamental Hairpin (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1941)
153. Dust in the Wind (Hou Hsiao-Hsien, 1986)
154. The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939)
155. Too Early/Too Late (Jean-Marie Straub & Daniele Hulliet, 1982)
156. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)
157. Jait re Jait (Jabbar Patel, 1977)
158. Maya Darpan (Kumar Shahani, 1972)
159. Lucky Star (Frank Borzage, 1929)
160. Hovering Over the Water (Joao César Monteiro, 1986)
161. At Sea (Peter Hutton, 2007)
162. From What is Before (Lav Diaz, 2014)
163. Demons (Toshio Matsumoto, 1971)
164. Martha (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1974)
165. Dil Se... (Mani Ratnam, 1998)
166. Clean (Olivier Assayas, 2004)
167. The Bitter Tea of General Yen (Frank Capra, 1933)
168. Foolish Wives (Erich von Stroheim, 1922)
169. The Gunfighter (Henry King, 1950)
170. Limite (Mario Peixoto, 1931)
171. Neighbors (Buster Keaton/Edward Kline, 1920)
172. New Rose Hotel (Abel Ferrara, 1998)
173. Seven Days in May (John Frankenheimer, 1964)
174. Chinese Roulette (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1976)
175. Stage Door (Gregory La Cava, 1937)
176. The Thief of Bagdad (Raoul Walsh, 1924)
177. The Seventh Victim (Mark Robson, 1943)
178. Gertrud (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1964)
179. The River (Jean Renoir, 1951)
180. Marketa Lazarova (Frantisek Vlacil, 1967)
181. Jauja (Lisandro Alonso, 2014)
182. La Cienaga (Lucrecia Martel, 2001)
183. Satantango (Bela Tarr, 1994)
184. Children of Paradise (Marcel Carne, 1945)
185. Gun Crazy (Joseph H Lewis, 1950)
186. Imitation of Life (Douglas Sirk, 1959)
187. Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
188. Wake in Fright (Ted Kotcheff, 1971)
189. The Trial (Orson Welles, 1962)
190. Meek's Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010)
191. La Notte (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1961)
192. Only Yesterday (Isao Takahata, 1991)
193. Pierrot le fou (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
194. Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
195. Wild Strawberries ( Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
196. Memories of Murder (Joon-ho Bong, 2003)
197. M (Fritz Lang, 1931)
198. AI Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
199. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
200. Seasons… (Phil Solomon/Stan Brakhage, 2002)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:17 pm
by rischka
thanks flip! i've never seen playtime :lol:

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:30 pm
by flip
i've never seen news from home or edvard munch! but i was thinking i might watch a few things from this list soon, feel like i've missed out on some good films...

curious if anyone feels posting a top 200 to letterboxd would be too great a break with tradition? i'll probably make that list later today.

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:14 pm
by flip
I did a very rough breakdown by country - it's impossible to do properly, because some films (like the Welles films) don't really have a country, and to save time, i just guessed a lot of the time, or classed things by the director's nationality. so this is just an approximation, but we have 30 different countries represented in the top 200:


USA: 65
France: 36
India: 16
Italy: 13
Japan: 12
Germany: 7
UK: 7
Russia: 6
Taiwan: 5
Portugal: 3
Hong Kong: 3
Iran: 2
Argentina: 2
Canada: 2
Belgium: 2
Denmark: 2
Hungary: 2
Spain: 2
Australia: 2
Thailand: 1
Finland: 1
Ukraine: 1
Senegal: 1
China: 1
Slovakia: 1
Philippines: 1
Brazil: 1
Czech Republic: 1
Sweden: 1
South Korea: 1

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:41 pm
by flip
perhaps interesting:

- in the afi 100 films list, 0 films were directed by women
- in the sight+sound top 250 list, 3 films in the top 200 were directed by women (by akerman, deren, and denis)
- in the they shoot pictures don't they top 1000 list, 3 films in the top 200 were directed by women (by akerman, denis, and campion)

in our list, 12 of our top 200 were directed by women

(i should point out that there were 5 more films directed by women in the s+s list, all ranking from #201-#250, by chytilova, varda, loden, campion, and farrokhzad, though no others from #201-#250 in the tspdt list)

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:41 pm
by Zulawski
Thanks for all the work, Flip! As for the list, I'm not quite sure what it reflects but it sure does stare at me with its odd eyes.

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:10 pm
by brian d
i vote that we just kick the first 15 movies off and that the list start at #16. :-P (kidding, i have my own self to blame if i wanted films that stood a chance to end up on there.)

but i agree with zulawski, great work flip. thanks for doing the tabulations. with 1500 different films, even with the formatting making things easier, that's still a bit of a job. :clap:

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:31 pm
by fabricix
brian d wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:10 pm i vote that we just kick the first 15 movies off and that the list start at #16. :-P (kidding, i have my own self to blame if i wanted films that stood a chance to end up on there.)
I would agree, but i don't think Cassavetes deserve this.
Otherwise, great job. Very strong list and the love for India is real.

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:30 pm
by St. Gloede
Thank you for hosting, flip.

I created an iCM list if it is of any help:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/scfz ... t.+gloede/

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:55 pm
by flip
oh cool, i've maxed out my icm list capabilities. the piavoli film (#92) is on icheckmovies btw, just with its original title:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/voci+nel+tempo/

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:22 am
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thanks for adding it all up flip. one thing i find interesting: 9 of my 10 favourite movies are in the t200. the one that isn't? They Live By Night. yall are goofing on TLBN for sure

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:46 am
by St. Gloede
flip wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:55 pm oh cool, i've maxed out my icm list capabilities. the piavoli film (#92) is on icheckmovies btw, just with its original title:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/voci+nel+tempo/
Complete now.

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:12 am
by greennui
Fine work, flip! It's a nice eclectic list.

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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:16 am
by greennui
St. Gloede wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:30 pm Thank you for hosting, flip.

I created an iCM list if it is of any help:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/scfz ... t.+gloede/
#25 and #66 should be K. Kurosawa's Pulse and de Oliveira's Doomed love.

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:20 am
by wba
Thanks for all the hard work flip.
A list of 200 titles! Wow.

PS: 3 of my Top 50 actually made it! And one even crept into the Top 100!! :shock:

Need to watch more Indian cinema. :hearteyes: :hearteyes:

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:19 pm
by St. Gloede
greennui wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:16 am
St. Gloede wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:30 pm Thank you for hosting, flip.

I created an iCM list if it is of any help:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/scfz ... t.+gloede/
#25 and #66 should be K. Kurosawa's Pulse and de Oliveira's Doomed love.
Fixed, thank you.

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:56 pm
by flip

Re: SCFZ 2019 top 100 poll - RESULTS

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:17 pm
by flip
a few comparisons between our list and other lists:

highest ranking film from our 2018 poll that didn't make the top 200 this year: #7 Extraordinary Stories (Mariano Llinas, 2008)
highest ranking film in our new top 200 that didn't make the top 100 last year: #8 Manoel’s Destinies (Raul Ruiz, 1984)

highest ranking films in the AFI 100 Years list that did not receive even one vote in our poll: #1 Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941); #4 Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980), #6 Gone With the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)

highest ranking films in the Sight+Sound top 250 poll (Critics poll) that did not receive even one vote in our poll: #2 Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941); #3 Tokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu, 1953), #13 Breathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)

highest ranking films in the TSPDT top 1000 that did not receive even one vote in our poll: #1 Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941); #5 Tokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu, 1953), #16 Breathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)