SCFZ poll: Joseph Losey
SCFZ poll: Joseph Losey
Polling the films of director Joseph Losey
The rules:
- your list can include no more than half of the Losey films you've seen, up to a maximum of 5. So if you've seen seven of his films, for example, you can list only a top 3. It's only if you've seen ten or more of his films than you can list the maximum of five.
- i'll assume ballots are ranked unless you tell me otherwise. unranked ballots are fine.
- deadline for ballots: next Friday, in seven days, whatever day that is
- if anyone is watching films for these polls, then i'll extend the deadline three days, if someone requests an extension
- next poll: whoever posts the first ballot in this thread is free to nominate the director we poll next, unless you've nominated in this round already (everyone should get a chance). Already nominated this round: brian d, greennui, ofrene, kanafani, bure, greg x, oscarwerner, silga, dt, umbugbene, roscoe, rischka
umbugbene created an index on letterboxd of all of our previous polls here: letterboxd.com/umbugbene/list/index-of-all-scfz-director-polls/
one rule for nominees: at least 3 scfzers need to have seen 10+ of a nominee's films, or at least 4 scfzers need to have seen at least 8 of the nom's films, so if it isn't clear if that will be the case, we'll confirm that's true before moving forward
if 24 hours pass after a poll opens, and no one eligible to nominate has posted a ballot, then i'll nominate someone, and then we'll start over, and everyone will be able to nominate again
The rules:
- your list can include no more than half of the Losey films you've seen, up to a maximum of 5. So if you've seen seven of his films, for example, you can list only a top 3. It's only if you've seen ten or more of his films than you can list the maximum of five.
- i'll assume ballots are ranked unless you tell me otherwise. unranked ballots are fine.
- deadline for ballots: next Friday, in seven days, whatever day that is
- if anyone is watching films for these polls, then i'll extend the deadline three days, if someone requests an extension
- next poll: whoever posts the first ballot in this thread is free to nominate the director we poll next, unless you've nominated in this round already (everyone should get a chance). Already nominated this round: brian d, greennui, ofrene, kanafani, bure, greg x, oscarwerner, silga, dt, umbugbene, roscoe, rischka
umbugbene created an index on letterboxd of all of our previous polls here: letterboxd.com/umbugbene/list/index-of-all-scfz-director-polls/
one rule for nominees: at least 3 scfzers need to have seen 10+ of a nominee's films, or at least 4 scfzers need to have seen at least 8 of the nom's films, so if it isn't clear if that will be the case, we'll confirm that's true before moving forward
if 24 hours pass after a poll opens, and no one eligible to nominate has posted a ballot, then i'll nominate someone, and then we'll start over, and everyone will be able to nominate again
The Go-Between
The Big Night
The Sleeping Tiger
The Servant
seen more than eight though some long enough ago i don't remember them well enough to judge. actually that's true of my #1 and #4 picks too, but i'll go with them anyway
The Big Night
The Sleeping Tiger
The Servant
seen more than eight though some long enough ago i don't remember them well enough to judge. actually that's true of my #1 and #4 picks too, but i'll go with them anyway
the prowler
M
the servant
mr klein
the criminal
M
the servant
mr klein
the criminal
King and Country
The Go-Between
La Truite
The Servant
Don Giovanni
The Go-Between
La Truite
The Servant
Don Giovanni
01. The Prowler
Losey seen: 2
Losey seen: 2
"I too am a child burned by future experiences, fallen back on myself and already suspecting the certainty that in the end only those will prove benevolent who believe in nothing." – Marran Gosov
wba - you can pick our next director if you like!
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Seen 20 :
1. The Servant (1963)
2. The Go-Between (1971)
3. Accident (1967)
4. Mr. Klein (1976)
5. King & Country (1964)
1. The Servant (1963)
2. The Go-Between (1971)
3. Accident (1967)
4. Mr. Klein (1976)
5. King & Country (1964)
Seen 4:
1. The Prowler
2. Mr. Klein
1. The Prowler
2. Mr. Klein
seen 8
the lawless
accident
the sleeping tiger
the servant
the lawless
accident
the sleeping tiger
the servant
"Most esteemed biographer of Peter Barrington Hutton"
I'd like to go with Sogo Ishii. If that doesn't work, maybe Sabu (Hiroyuki Tanaka)?
"I too am a child burned by future experiences, fallen back on myself and already suspecting the certainty that in the end only those will prove benevolent who believe in nothing." – Marran Gosov
i think sogo ishii is a lot more likely to work than sabu, but we can check both - i've seen 3 by ishii and 4 by sabu
Hmm, I see. If both don't work I'd suggest Peter Hyams as a third option.
"I too am a child burned by future experiences, fallen back on myself and already suspecting the certainty that in the end only those will prove benevolent who believe in nothing." – Marran Gosov
I have seen, surprisingly to me, 16 Hyamss
I’ve seen 7 Hyams. Could watch one more. Although, I have to admit that I’m not a fan.
Seen 2 Losey films
1. The Prowler
Seen 8 Peter Hyams films and only 4 Ishii
1. The Prowler
Seen 8 Peter Hyams films and only 4 Ishii
Seen 19
1. The Go-Between
2. King and Country
3. The Servant
4. These are the Damned
5. M
I have 1 Ishii and 2 Hyams
1. The Go-Between
2. King and Country
3. The Servant
4. These are the Damned
5. M
I have 1 Ishii and 2 Hyams
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ok, peter hyams will work if we need a fallback, though if anyone has 8+ sogo ishii or 8+ sabu films, please post here and maybe one of wba's first two choices will qualify
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Seen 4.
1. The Go-Between
2. The Servant
1. The Go-Between
2. The Servant
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Seen 10. I am mixed on Losey's career, the little I have seen of his American work is just not interesting, and similarly (granted, like many directors) he seemed to start losing his touch later in life, leaving essentially the 60s as the period where he genuinly shone as a master of great artistic merit:
The Servant (1963)
The Damned (1962)
Accident (1967)
The Go-Between (1971)
The Assassination of Trotsky (1972)
(Though King & Country was a bit of a disappointing, and coming right after my top 2 choices, I need explore more of his work)
The Servant (1963)
The Damned (1962)
Accident (1967)
The Go-Between (1971)
The Assassination of Trotsky (1972)
(Though King & Country was a bit of a disappointing, and coming right after my top 2 choices, I need explore more of his work)
You should watch THE PROWLER (1950)! Brilliant, brilliant film.St. Gloede wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:34 pm Seen 10. I am mixed on Losey's career, the little I have seen of his American work is just not interesting,
And THE CRIMINAL (1960) from that british period (which you mentioned, but maybe you haven't seen this one), which is also a masterpiece.
Haven't seen anything else by Losey, but these 2 blew me away.
"I too am a child burned by future experiences, fallen back on myself and already suspecting the certainty that in the end only those will prove benevolent who believe in nothing." – Marran Gosov
ACCIDENT
Seen enough to rate more. This is by far the best. That thing about the servant just had me all exasperated at how transparently phony it all was.
Seen enough to rate more. This is by far the best. That thing about the servant just had me all exasperated at how transparently phony it all was.
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I totally agree with wba. If asked about top 10 i would include The Prowler and The Criminal for sure. Both great films. Simply i love this very english Losey cinema, which was so good, that many people still think , that Losey was pure british:) Yes, he had some worse stories to shoot, maybe in order to keep working in his profession. But for me and for many others Losey is that really great director. His place is in this cinema elite together with greatest cinema authors. When i saw Phantom Thread (2017) by Paul Thomas Anderson, i found much in common with best Losey "british" cinema , especially with "Servant".
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Sorry, but I found The Prowler completely mediocre.wba wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:05 amYou should watch THE PROWLER (1950)! Brilliant, brilliant film.St. Gloede wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:34 pm Seen 10. I am mixed on Losey's career, the little I have seen of his American work is just not interesting,
And THE CRIMINAL (1960) from that british period (which you mentioned, but maybe you haven't seen this one), which is also a masterpiece.
Haven't seen anything else by Losey, but these 2 blew me away.
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Seen 4.
1. The Prowler (1951)
2. The Lawless (1950)
Adore The Prowler. Just watched The Lawless today and it's quite good, might personal-canonize it on rewatch; I especially liked the Carey-Russell principled journalists relationship.
1. The Prowler (1951)
2. The Lawless (1950)
Adore The Prowler. Just watched The Lawless today and it's quite good, might personal-canonize it on rewatch; I especially liked the Carey-Russell principled journalists relationship.