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SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:55 am
by flip
Polling the films of director Yoshishige Yoshida

The rules:

- your list can include no more than half of the Yoshida films you've seen, up to a maximum of 5. So if you've seen seven of his films, for example, you can list only a top 3. It's only if you've seen ten or more of his films than you can list the maximum of five.

- i'll assume ballots are ranked unless you tell me otherwise. unranked ballots are fine.

- deadline for ballots: next Tuesday, in seven days, whatever day that is

- if anyone is watching films for these polls, then i'll extend the deadline three days, if someone requests an extension

- next poll: whoever posts the first ballot in this thread is free to nominate the director we poll next, unless you've nominated in this round already (everyone should get a chance). Already nominated this round: greg x, rischka, dt, silga, kanafani, brian d, greennui, ofrene, mesnalty, john ryan, roscoe, evelyn, thoxans, bure, oscarwerner, arkheia, caracortada, karl, umbugbene, st gloede

umbugbene created an index on letterboxd of all of our previous polls here: letterboxd.com/umbugbene/list/index-of-all-scfz-director-polls/

one rule for nominees: at least 3 scfzers need to have seen 10+ of a nominee's films, or at least 4 scfzers need to have seen at least 8 of the nom's films, so if it isn't clear if that will be the case, we'll confirm that's true before moving forward

if 24 hours pass after a poll opens, and no one eligible to nominate has posted a ballot, then i'll nominate someone, and then we'll start over, and everyone will be able to nominate again

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:40 pm
by brian d
a story written with water
the affair
eros + massacre
woman of the lake
affair in the snow

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:56 pm
by kanafani
eros + massacre

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:09 pm
by augusto
seen 6.

coup d’etat
a story written with water
eros + massacre

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:33 pm
by wba2
seen only one (eros + massacre), which was nice. I've watched it 2 times, but I guess that doesn't count. :D

PS: Kazuko Inano rules!! :hearteyes:

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:41 pm
by flip
augusto - you can pick the director we poll next, if you like!

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:32 pm
by Zulawski
Perhaps the one director to succeed in being unashamedly creative in his framings and compositions without it ever feeling forced.

1. Coup d'Etat
2. Heroic Purgatory
3. Confessions Among Actresses
4. Eros + Massacre

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:01 pm
by josiahmorgan11
1. heroic purgatory
2. eros + massacre

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:13 pm
by Umbugbene
Seen 2

EDIT: I'm rescinding my earlier vote for Eros + Massacre.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:37 pm
by St. Gloede
Thank you for giving Yoshida a chance, and glad to see the votes are already ticking in. Seen all 19 films he produced and I would without hesitation call him one of the greatest directors to ever live - especially noteworthy for his unique style he presented in the back to back trio that tops my list - but he was incredibly throughout his career.

1. Heroic Purgatory
2. Eros + Massacre
3. Coup D'Etat
4. Women in the Mirror
5. A Story Written with Water

Other fantastic films:

Woman of the Lake, Akitsu Springs, Impasse, Farewell to the Summer Light

Also highly recommended:

Confession Among Acresses, Wuthering Heights, The Affair

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:05 am
by augusto
flip wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:41 pm augusto - you can pick the director we poll next, if you like!
i don't see tsui hark on that list, so let's do him if possible.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:40 am
by Umbugbene
Tsui Hark is #23 on the list.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:39 am
by ...
watched 4, I guess the same as others did

Heroic Purgatory
Impasse

Not sure Impasse is better than the otehr two I saw, but it seems like Eros and Coup won't need the help.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:07 am
by Umbugbene
The two Yoshidas I've seen are Eros + Massacre, and Lumière & Co., to which he contributed a one-minute segment. It strikes me that it's unfair and meaningless for me to cast a ballot here, so I'm rescinding my vote for E+M.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:13 pm
by augusto
augusto wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:05 am
flip wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:41 pm augusto - you can pick the director we poll next, if you like!
i don't see tsui hark on that list, so let's do him if possible.
ok, seems tsui hark is done, so let me try again. alain resnais?

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:36 pm
by flip
sounds good! alain resnais poll will start on friday

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:00 pm
by laternamagica
Watched 12
1. Heroic purgatory
2. Confessions among actresses
3. Good-for-nothing
4. Eros plus massacre
5. Woman on the lake

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:42 pm
by ofrene
watched 6

1. Akitsu Springs
2. Woman of the Lake
3. A Story Written with Water

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:18 am
by flip
we got past a top ten, and we also got what i think is a bit of a surprise winner (not knowing yoshida very well, i'm not sure, but i was expecting eros+massacre to win), so i'm happy we ran this poll:

results

1. Heroic Purgatory (1970) -- 17 pts
2. Eros+Massacre (1969) -- 13 pts
3. Coup d'Etat (1973) -- 10 pts
4. A Story Written With Water (1965) -- 9 pts
5. Confessions Among Actresses (1971) -- 6 pts
6. Woman of the Lake (1966) -- 5 pts
7. The Affair (1967) -- 4 pts
8. Akitsu Springs (1962) -- 3 pts
8. Good-for-Nothing (1960) -- 3 pts
10. Women in the Mirror (2002) -- 2 pts
11. Affair in the Snow (1968) -- 1 pt
11. Impasse (1967) -- 1 pt

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:38 pm
by St. Gloede
Thank you again for running the poll, Flip. I am very happy about the results, with 12 of his 19 films getting a mention, and 4 of my top 5 making the top 5 (and in the same order).

I hope someone who has not seen it will be tempted to explore Heroic Purgatory now. If you have never seen a Yoshida you may be shocked by how he shot Eros, Heroic and Coup. The compositions, framing and atmosphere may be unlike anything you have seen.

Re: SCFZ poll: Yoshishige Yoshida

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:56 pm
by flip