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Welcome to our annual update.

What is this?
Begun in 2007, Doubling the Canon is a yearly project which aims to expand the Film Canon as crafted by the They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? website. Originally it was a selection of 1000 movies to complement the TSPDT Top 1000, now it is a list of 1000-1250 which complements both the all time Top 1000 and the companion TSPDT Top 1000 of the 21st century.

Who can participate?
Anyone can join. Requirement for newbies: Please note that you will be requested to identify yourself, just to make sure that the poll is answered (only once) by cinephiles of good will.

Where?
In this thread.
In the ICMForum: https://forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4206
Via e-mail: doublingthecanon@hotmail.com

What is new in this update?
Any film that is newly admitted to the Doubled Canon must be subjected to a revote after 5 years so we're going to revote the 2014 entries.

Phase I: Nominations for titles not on either the TSPDT lists or the Doubling list.
Deadline: March 18
Each participant can nominate a maximum of 12 films. Shorts, TV-movies, and TV mini-series are eligible. Every nominated movie goes onto the roster as a nominee. Films released in 2018-19 aren't allowed this year for our exercise.

Please, don't edit your post! To change your ballot (undesirable) or add new titles you have to write a new reply.

Phase II: Ratings.
You're invited to rate the films you have seen (whether you have participated in the phase I or not). The nominees with the highest ratings make it into our list.
You can cast your votes anytime between now and Thursday, April 25. Only 'write-in' updates will be accepted after the deadline.
Please, sign your ballot. Example: This is Angel Glez from Spain. The country is optional, but it would be interesting to have a country breakdown of the doublers.

Rating system:
6=All time top 600
5=All time top 601-1,200
4=All time top 1,201-1,800
3=All time top 1,801-2,400
2=It's a good movie, but not special enough to deserve placement in a 2,400-movie canon
1=It's an average movie, far from good enough to deserve placement on this list
0=I dislike this movie
Note: The cutoff was 3.91 last year. That means a 3 does not really help a film make the list.

Procedure 1: Just download the ballot (if you prefer I can send you the file) and email it back to me (doublingthecanon@hotmail.com)
The ballot is a couple of posts below.
Procedure 2: Online (PM me for details)

Don't remove anything, don't reorder. Untouched ballot with ratings, please.

After submitting your ballot, post a reply here to make sure I received the file. You can also add comments or statistics if you wish.

Early ballots would be appreciated. Then, if you watch new films or forgot to rate some, send me a 'write-in' ballot.

Thank you in advance for joining us in this game.

P.S.: If you know anyone adventurous enough (on or off the forum) that you think would also enjoy participating, feel free to invite them as well.

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RESULTS:

DtC 2019 update (results)

DtC 2019 (IMDb list)

DtC 2019 (Letterboxd list)

DtC 2020 holdovers & revotes

TSPDT The 1,000 Greatest Films (2019)
http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000 ... _table.php

TSPDT The 21st Century's Most Acclaimed Films (2019)
http://www.theyshootpictures.com/21stce ... _table.php

Doubling the Canon (2018)
IMDb list
iCM list

All lists in the same file (TSPDT 2019 + DtC 2018)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Search links

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:19 am Your ratings sorted by rating, excluding ineligible and already nominated films

DtC 2019 ballot

DDL: https://we.tl/t-KLAuwYyFnX

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:19 am I'll be adding the nominations in the thread to this IMDb list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls043489375/

The host's list of unfortunate babies over the years (adoptions are welcome )

bure can you add DtC to the links ATOP so it's easily found? thx

Already voted on the ICM Forum, but for those interested:

I suck at this so much. I’ll avoid the frustration and just skip this year.

kanafani wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:51 pm I suck at this so much. I’ll avoid the frustration and just skip this year.

Noooo. The less successful you are, the more important your contribution is. Don't let the mad doublers take control of the madhouse

Angel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:49 am The host's list of unfortunate babies over the years (adoptions are welcome )

Spoiler!

Ala-Arriba! (1942)
Al-ard (1969)
Blood Money (1933)
Body Heat (1981)
Daens (1992)
Dalu (1935) adopted by zhangalan
Dead Time: Kala (2007)
Det hemmelighedsfulde X (1914)
Die goldene Stadt(1942)
Døden er et kjærtegn (1949)
Due soldi di speranza (1952)
Dynamite (1929)
El Norte (1983)
Ercole alla conquista di Atlantide (1961)
Es geschah am hellichten Tag (1958)
Fährmann Maria (1936)
Geomeun meori (1964)
Gli uomini, che mascalzoni... (1932)
Heartland (1979)
Heimkehr (1928)
Il cavaliere misterioso (1948)
Il lupo della Sila (1949)
Il sole negli occhi (1953)
Imitation of Life (1934)
Je ne suis pas là pour être aimé (2005)
Joe Hill (1971)
La noche de los girasoles (2006)
La Patagonia rebelde (1974)
La ragazza in vetrina (1961)
La torre de los siete jorobados (1944)
Le pacte des loups (2001)
L'équipage (1935)
Les aventuriers (1967)
L'homme de Rio (1964)
Mabu (1961)
Manthan (1976) adopted by 72allinncallme
Mashenka (1942)
Milano calibro 9 (1972)
Mirch Masala (1987)
Mountains of the Moon (1990)
Much Loved (2015)
Mutter Krausens Fahrt ins Glück (1929)
Nacht fiel über Gotenhafen (1960)
Nezabyvayemoye (1967)
Otobüs (1975)
Pale Rider (1985)
Pan Twardowski (1936)
Peesua lae dokmai (1985)
Pranzo di ferragosto (2008)
Running Wild (1927)
San Mao liu lang ji (1949)
Sandakan hachibanshokan bohkyo (1974)
Selvi boylum, al yazmalim (1978)
Senza pietà (1948)
Shôwa zankyô-den: Karajishi jingi (1969)
Silver Lode (1954)
Steamboat Round the Bend (1935)
Sur mes lèvres (2001)
Tatlong taong walang Diyos (1976)
Tau ban no hoi (1982)
Terminal Island (1973)
The Black Cat (1934)
The Chase (1946)
The China Syndrome (1979)
The Godless Girl (1929)
The Good Heart (2009)
The Hitch-Hiker (1953)
The Last Valley (1971)
The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (1935)
The Mating Call (1928)
The Silent Partner (1978)
The Untouchables (1987)
The Well (1951)
Tonka Sibenice (1930)
Tredowata (1936)
Tsuki wa noborinu (1955)
Ulisse (1954)
Un été à La Goulette (1996)
Une liaison pornographique (1999)
Union Pacific (1939)
Vesikali yarim (1968)
Wild Oranges (1924)
You Can't Take It with You (1938)
Zugvögel - ... einmal nach Inari (1998)

having horrendous problems browsing this site, so i'll have a think about some selections outside of this damn scroll of slow death, but in case i die of boredom before that i'll adopt:
Tatlong taong walang Diyos
Tonka Sibenice


and also choose:
Os Lobos (1923)
A Woman of Affairs (1928)
Fjols til fjells (1957) it's in resources people!
Kukuli (1961)
Hudutların Kanunu (1966)
Sayehaye bolande bad (1979)
Majstori, majstori (1980)
Losing Ground (1982)
Bei kao bei, lian dui lian (1994)
A Vingança de Uma Mulher (2012)

let me know if anything is not eligible....

ps would totally watch Der Hauptmann von Köpenick if i had access to it


and did i nominate aa bakudan one year or just watch it for this?

memory is like:

Thanks for the adoptions! Tatlong taong walang Diyos has no chance, though (it will be massacred by the iCM people) and Losing Ground is already a holdover from last year.

Angel wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:18 pm Thanks for the adoptions! Tatlong taong walang Diyos has no chance, though (it will be massacred by the iCM people)

why? do they give reasons? i guess they never lived through the hilarious mubi controversy and then found out it was actually a good film after all.

i forgot the holdover thing - does that mean we can nominate it again, it's not worth nominating again, or it automatically gets entered? anyway, if you think the black cat has a better chance than losing ground, please put that in. i just whittled down an initial list of mine of 57 to twelve, i can't face refining it further.

i got losing ground's back fosho

twodeadmagpies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:28 pm

Angel wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:18 pm Thanks for the adoptions! Tatlong taong walang Diyos has no chance, though (it will be massacred by the iCM people)

why? do they give reasons? i guess they never lived through the hilarious mubi controversy and then found out it was actually a good film after all.

i forgot the holdover thing - does that mean we can nominate it again, it's not worth nominating again, or it automatically gets entered? anyway, if you think the black cat has a better chance than losing ground, please put that in. i just whittled down an initial list of mine of 57 to twelve, i can't face refining it further.

A holdover is automatically nominated so you have a free slot. Regarding Three Godless Years, well, most iCM users are allergic to melodramatic excesses (even the melodrama mention) and a Filipino Sjöström is too much for them. Besides I made the mistake of trying to promote the movie... just to get a high number of downgraders. Better try another one.

ICM user here. The film Tatlong taong walang Diyos is pretty great. It was chosen for the first season of the ICM world cup and was slaughtered unfortunately.

Basically, don't nominate films from these lists:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... /joachimt/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... /joachimt/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... /joachimt/

Already posted on ICM but here are my nominees:

Canoa https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131335/
Duende y misterio del flamenco [Flamenco] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044574/
Staré pověsti české [Old Czech Legends] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240034/
Les orgueilleux [The Proud and the Beautiful] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046149/
The Purple Plain https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047376/
Weg zum Nachbarn [Way to the Neighbor] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4316692/
Une vie [End of Desire] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052339/
Personal Problems https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285891/
Babylon https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080406/
第三の影武者 [The Third Shadow] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200559/
Wisconsin Death Trip https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210389/
Great Display of Brock's Fireworks https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2950490/

aww canoa. i might watch yr flamenco film for this

can we please have a more accessible link for DtC? TY

i have to search every time

i better post before people steal all my noms

inca light (fulton 1972) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8865530/
volkady paralelder (kamdamov 2005) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481651/
a high wind in jamaica (mackendrick 1965) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059269/
les trois valses (berger 1938) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030896/
cabeza de vaca (echevarria 1991) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101529/
irezumi (masumura 1966) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200740/
vamanos con pancho villa (fuentes 1936) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027240/
peau de peche (epstein/levy 1929) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020263/
el mar la mar (sniadecki/bonnetta 2017) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587706/
giorgobistve (iosseliani 1966) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0171343/
le roman de werther (ophuls 1938) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030958/
miss mend (barnet/otsep 1926) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017159/

let me know if there's anything wrong and i'll try to come up with some alternates

My list, previously posted on icm:

1. Laulu tulipunaisesta kukasta (Teuvo Tulio, 1938)
2. Behindert (Stephen Dwoskin, 1974)
3. Night Tide (Curtis Harrington, 1961)
4. München-Berlin Wanderung (Oskar Fischinger, 1927)
5. Ai sha (Patrick Tam, 1981)
6. Bumming in Beijing: The Last Dreamers (Wenguang Wu, 1990)
7. Jenseits der Straße - Eine Tragödie des Alltags (Leo Mittler, 1929)
8. Aozora musume (Yasuzô Masumura, 1957)
9. Drowning by Numbers (Peter Greenaway, 1988)
10. Messidor (Alain Tanner, 1979)
11. Das triadische Ballett (Marianne Hasting/Franz Schömbs, 1970)
12. Ways of Seeing (1972)

rischka wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:14 pm vamanos con pancho villa (fuentes 1936) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027240/

DtC #153 (Penalosa's baby if I remember well).

ooh only one, better than i expected. ok how about...

baaz (dutt 1953) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045529/

I was looking over my nominations from previous years, and I'm trying to understand what happened with one of my films. In 2015, quoting from the results thread Angel posted (post #182 here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_aut ... -s180.html ) :

"-To qualify for the main list a film must have received a minimum of 6 votes
-The cutoff is set to 3.89
...
The Wonderful Country [1959] 4.14-7"

It seems The Wonderful Country qualified for the list, and I thought films stayed on the list for five years? But it's not in the ICM list Angel links to above, so I might be misunderstanding how things work, or it might have been left off inadvertently.

Partly wondering so I know if I should nominate it again!

just like last year, i'm still not sure if i'm doing this correctly, but here goes anyways...

the blackout (abel ferrara)
the boy in the plastic bubble (randal kleiser)
doppelganger (kiyoshi kurosawa)
iguana (monte hellman)
my childhood (bill douglas)
om shanti om (farah khan)
a poem is a naked person (les blank)
pom poko (isao takahata)
sleepaway camp (robert hiltzik)
smile (michael ritchie)
starman (john carpenter)
two for the road (stanley donen)

I don't know how this work but anyway.. (that movies are not in TSPDT 2019 + DtC 2018 spreadsheet)

The Gang’s All Here (Busby Berkeley, 1943) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035916
3 Godfathers (John Ford, 1948) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040064
On Dangerous Ground (Nicholas Ray, Ida Lupino, 1951) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043879
Nagareru (Naruse Mikio, 1956) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049537
La femme infidèle (Claude Chabrol, 1969) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064323
Mikey and Nicky (Elaine May, 1976) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074901
L'une chante l'autre pas (Agnes Varda, 1977) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076855
Sorcerer (William Friedkin, 1977) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076740
Running on Empty (Sidney Lumet, 1988) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096018
Videogramme einer Revolution (Harun Farocki, Andrei Ujica, 1992) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108489
Ohikkoshi (Shinji Sômai, 1993) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107736
Inquietude (Manoel de Oliveira, 1998) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120712

flip wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:30 pm I was looking over my nominations from previous years, and I'm trying to understand what happened with one of my films. In 2015, quoting from the results thread Angel posted (post #182 here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_aut ... -s180.html ) :

"-To qualify for the main list a film must have received a minimum of 6 votes
-The cutoff is set to 3.89
...
The Wonderful Country [1959] 4.14-7"

It seems The Wonderful Country qualified for the list, and I thought films stayed on the list for five years? But it's not in the ICM list Angel links to above, so I might be misunderstanding how things work, or it might have been left off inadvertently.

Partly wondering so I know if I should nominate it again!

Yeah, TWC made the cut in 2015 (#652), but in 2017 a new threshold was set (8 votes) due to an increase in participation. Films with only 7 votes were revoted and TWC got a lower rating 3.79-15

twodeadmagpies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:15 pm ps would totally watch Der Hauptmann von Köpenick if i had access to it


and did i nominate aa bakudan one year or just watch it for this?

memory is like:

Cheers! Let's hope we can push Aa Bakudan through this time, its time has come.

(Btw, for reference Der Hauptmann von Köpenick from '31, not the more popular '56 version, while having almost identical plots they could hardly be more different as films)

Angel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:32 am Yeah, TWC made the cut in 2015 (#652), but in 2017 a new threshold was set (8 votes) due to an increase in participation. Films with only 7 votes were revoted and TWC got a lower rating 3.79-15

That makes sense - thanks for the explanation! Sad that my film dropped out though

Mutum (Sandra Kogut, 2007)
Sanam (Rafi Pitts, 2000)
Osobennosti natsionalnoy okhoty [Peculiarities of the National Hunt] (Alexander Rogozhkin, 1995)
Das Goldene Tor [The Golden Gate] (Jürgen Reble, 1992)
Le Collier Perdu de la Colombe [The Dove's Lost Necklace] (Nacer Khemir, 1991)
Les Risques du Métier [Risky Business] (Andre Cayatte, 1967)
The Quiet Gun (William Claxton, 1957)
Decision Before Dawn (Anatole Litvak, 1951)
The Web (Michael Gordon, 1947)
Hi Diddle Diddle (Andrew L. Stone, 1943)
Spring Parade (Henry Koster, 1940)
Downstairs (Monta Bell, 1932)

Didn't see on yr list that I rather like:

Vem dömer (Love's Crucible) (Victor Sjöström, 1922)
S.V.D. - Soyuz velikogo dela (The Club of the Big Deed) (Grigori Kozintsev & Leonid Trauberg, 1927)
La Maternelle (Jean Benoît-Lévy & Marie Epstein, 1933)
Merlusse (Marcel Pagnol, 1935)
Robin Hood of El Dorado (William Wellman, 1936)
The Sound of Fury aka Try and Get Me! (Cy Endfield, 1950)
Me, bebia, Iliko da Ilarioni (Me, Grandma, Iliko and Ilarion) (Tengiz Abuladze, 1962)
Sovist (Conscience) (Volodymyr Denysenko aka Vladimir Denisenko, 1968)
Una pelea cubana contra los demonios (A Cuban Fight against Demons) (Tomás Gutiérrez Alea, 1972)
Xiao Bi de gu shi (Growing Up) (Chen Kun-huo, 1983)
Gaebyeok (Fly High, Run Far) (Im Kwon-taek, 1991)
Guan yu ai de gu shi (Common People) (Zhou Xiaowen, 1998)

ofrene wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:29 am Sorcerer (William Friedkin, 1977) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076740

It's already nominated (TSPDT drop-off) so you have a free slot if you wish.