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i think i'm happy with my ballot now, so once thoxans and mrcarmady post to let me know they're ready, i'll start tallying, unless anyone else needs more time - please let me know!

flip wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:31 pm i think i'm happy with my ballot now, so once thoxans and mrcarmady post to let me know they're ready, i'll start tallying, unless anyone else needs more time - please let me know!

I'm done, or about as done as I'll ever be.

always for pleasure (les blank, 1978)
c/o kancharapalem (maha venkatesh, 2018)
mary jane's not a virgin anymore (sarah jacobson, 1996)
peppermint frappe (carlos saura, 1967)
yeelen (souleymane cisse, 1987)

big wednesday (john milius, 1978)
the bill douglas trilogy (bill douglas, 1972-1978)
bitter moon (roman polanski, 1992)
the bitter tea of general yen (frank capra, 1933)
the blackout (abel ferrara, 1997)
a brighter summer day (edward yang, 1991)
the brown bunny (vincent gallo, 2003)
la ceremonie (claude chabrol, 1995)
come back to the 5 & dime, jimmy dean, jimmy dean (robert altman, 1982)
countryman (dickie jobson, 1982)
dillinger is dead (marco ferreri, 1969)
duck, you sucker (sergio leone, 1971)
flowers of shanghai (hou hsiao-hsien, 1998)
gertrud (carl theodor dreyer, 1964)
girlfriends (claudia weill, 1978)
green snake (tsui hark, 1993)
heaven's gate (michael cimino, 1980)
the horse thief (tian zhuangzhuang, 1986)
i knew her well (antonio pietrangeli, 1965)
i was a teenage zombie (john elias michalakis, 1987)
iguana (monte hellman, 1988)
innocence (zeki demirkubuz, 1997)
jauja (lisandro alonso, 2014)
late spring (yasujiro ozu, 1949)
losing ground (kathleen collins, 1982)
love and anarchy (lina wurtmuller, 1973)
magnet of doom (jean-pierre melville, 1963)
the makioka sisters (kon ichikawa, 1983)
medium cool (haskell wexler, 1969)
model shop (jacques demy, 1969)
mon oncle antoine (claude jutra, 1971)
night moves (arthur penn, 1975)
om shanti om (farah khan, 2007)
on the silver globe (andrzej zulawski, 1988)
only yesterday (isao takahata, 1991)
over the edge (jonathan kaplan, 1979)
remember my name (alan rudolph, 1978)
the rose seller (victor gaviria, 1998)
sherman's march (ross mcelwee, 1985)
some call it loving (james b. harris, 1973)
starman (john carpenter, 1984)
trances (ahmed el-maanouni. 1981)
trimurti (mukul anand, 1995)
two for the road (stanley donen, 1967)
ugly, dirty and bad (ettore scola, 1976)
unknown pleasures (jia zhangke, 2002)
us go home (claire denis, 1994)
the whole shootin' match (eagle pennell, 1978)
woman in the dunes (hiroshi teshigahara, 1964)
z (costa-gavras, 1969)

at first i was all like but then it kinda turned into until finally it reached a point where

tabulating is now officially underway!

if new ballots come in before i post the final results, i can easily factor them in, but i can't easily accommodate edits to already-posted ballots. so if you haven't posted yet, feel free (though you don't have much time) but if you posted already, your ballot is final.

four ballots in, and the film currently in #1 is something i've never heard of! that won't last, but interesting to me all the same

DT. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:15 am Minding the Gap (Bi Gan, 2018)

i'm assuming this is a vote for 'minding the gap' by bing liu, but if you meant to vote for 'long day's journey into night', the bi gan film from 2018, let me know!

Lencho of the Apes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:53 am I've got something on file from earlier in the month that conforms pretty well to what you asked for, and I don't think I'll be able to give it any more thought, so here it is.

is your list meant to be ranked? if so, could you at least divide it into tiers that correspond to those in the first post in the thread, i can't score a ballot with groupings of semi-random size

flip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:05 pm is your list meant to be ranked?

actually i'm just going to assume you intended your line breaks to separate tiers, and i'll do some funny math to assign points to your tiers so your ballot is weighted the same as everyone else's, that's actually going to be useful to break ties. i'm also so close to done with the tally that i just want to finish it

if anyone wants to bet on our #1 film, now is the time!

for reference, our previous winners:

1st annual: Vertigo
2nd annual: The Passion of Joan of Arc
3rd annual: Vertigo
4th annual: Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors
5th annual: Playtime

I'll guess Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors make a return to #1

hate to say it, but the pessimist in me thinks it'll be something already long canonical like tarkovsky's stalker

on the other hand, the optimist in me hopes something like yang's a brighter summer day will pull through ftw

lencho, i'm assuming you're voting for judex by feuillade, not by franju, and fantomas by feuillade, not by pal fejos

and that's why we call him lazybones lencho...

Guesses for number one

Celine and Julie
Jeanne dielman
Edvard Munch

Guesses:

1.) Vertigo
2.) Celine and Julie
3.) Pirosmani

flip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:46 pm four ballots in, and the film currently in #1 is something i've never heard of! that won't last, but interesting to me all the same

i believe that particular film ends up finishing in 101st place, ironically enough, so it won't even make the top 100

i've finished the tally, finished tiebreaking, so i'll post the results tomorrow sometime!

flip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:03 pm

DT. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:15 am Minding the Gap (Bi Gan, 2018)

i'm assuming this is a vote for 'minding the gap' by bing liu, but if you meant to vote for 'long day's journey into night', the bi gan film from 2018, let me know!

Oops sorry, Bing Liu not Bi Gan!

flip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:23 pm if anyone wants to bet on our #1 film, now is the time!

I feel like I saw a bunch of Cluny Brown. That'd be surprise #1.

3 guesses that are all wrong

1. Cluny Brown
2. Contempt
3. The return of Vertigo

i don't think it would happen but cluny brown getting #1 would be amazing.

CLU-NY CLU-NY !!

I think Army of Shadows might fare unexpectedly well. But I think reality might come crashing down on that guess.

Somewhat wishful thinking, perhaps, but my guess for #1 is Ulmer's The Naked Dawn. Certainly did well. A film I still haven't seen, so I'll add it to my August watchlist.

it looks like i'll be making a movie this afternoon, so i probably won't get around to posting the results until this evening. some preliminary data:

• 1337 different films received votes
• the top seven films were separated by less than 6 points (and #1 and #2 by only 0.8 points), so it was a close contest!
• only 96 films got more than 8 points, so that's what a film needed to make the top 100 (or it needed to be very unseen with exactly 8 points)
• as always, i've used letterboxd views as a tiebreaker (fewer views = higher ranking)
• last year i posted a top 200 to letterboxd. this year only 174 films received more than 6 points, and a further 175 received exactly 6 points (that's an easy total to reach -- it's one vote for a special tier film, or two ordinary votes from unranked ballots, for example). if i do a top 200 again, then 6-point films with 70 views or less make the list. if i go to a top 250, which i'm strongly considering, then 6-point films with less than about 625 views will make the list. if i do a top 250, the last 80 films or so on the list will be almost entirely films from voters' special tier, so it will be an eclectic and hopefully interesting slate of films

i gave long thought to whether to count ballots posted by new members. in the past i've been inclined to do that, but that's been controversial. in the end i was swayed by two things: several people, in our pre-poll discussions, said they like making this an annual exercise because it produces a snapshot of scfz interests over the past year. if that's how people view the final list, it only makes sense to include ballots from people who have been participating over the year. and i also worried that some mostly-unseen-outside-of-scfz films would get pushed out of the top 100, films that would never make a top 100 anywhere else, and some longstanding members might be a bit unhappy if that happened to one of their obscure favourites. so in the end i elected not to count lineuphere's ballot, but i hope they'll be participating here so i can count their ballot next year! the top tier on their ballot is especially interesting, four films i was completely unaware of. so my apologies that your votes weren't factored in, but they will be for sure in any future polls i run.

Do you or anyone plan to make a Letterboxd list of all 1337 films that received votes? If you weren't planning it let me know and I'll volunteer. Seems like a bit of work though, so if someone wanted to do it already be my guest.

i was planning to post that list here, because pabs always asks me to anyway

there was basically no chance i was going to post it to letterboxd though, seems like way too much work, but of course it's cool if anyone else wants to

leet films
250 sounds great!

flip wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 pm i was planning to post that list here, because pabs always asks me to anyway

there was basically no chance i was going to post it to letterboxd though, seems like way too much work, but of course it's cool if anyone else wants to

Okay then, I'll wait for you to post it here first so I don't have to filter out dups.