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Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:09 pm
by greennui
twodeadmagpies wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:05 pm i wondered if you were settling in ok!
Very much so. I live in the capital yet I've got a forest and the sea just a stone throw away. The bird life is pretty buzzing, thinking of dusting off the ol' birdwatching binocolaurs.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:40 pm
by rischka
i've got dozens of these as well :D congrats on the move greennui! forest & sea, sounds like vancouver. are there mountains too??

Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:08 pm
by sally
watched for DtC

Kestrel's Eye - Mikael Kristersson (1998)

according to my 1685 Yorkshire dialect dictionary:
Keauʃtril, is a great bon'd courʃe Creature.

which makes me wonder if they had geese in yorkshire back then (ah no, but apparently they had a Geauʃe - maybe they were just drunk all the time)

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loved the lapwing attack. same, same...

Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:40 pm
by greennui
Kestrel's a fairly odd name for it. It's called tornfalk (tower falcon) in Swedish because, well, it's a falcon.
Kestrel. From Middle English castrel (“staniel, bird of prey”), from Middle French cresserelle, crecerelle (“bird of prey”), derivative of crecelle (“rattle, wooden reel”), of obscure origin.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:00 pm
by sally
i am not great at identifying birds of prey, usually because all you see is a minute silhouette way up high. we have small ones which i interchangeably call kestrels, hawks or falcons (i know they're different but i have never grasped how) larger ones which are all buzzards to me (unless you can see the forked tail, in which case it's a kite) and owls.

actually i'm pretty crap at identifying birds in general. we have so many small brown ones.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:17 pm
by sally
yep, straight away youtube attacks me after the cow nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Zg9sGnQf8

also, it's not a magic ritual, that's clearly a baby & it wants feeding.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:43 pm
by rischka
the algorithm may have been confused by your username. that's only onedeadmagpie

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:22 am
by sally
saw one of these just now (the eurasian nuthatch) a creeping, jolly bird to which i am in some sympathy this morning - i must have slept funny last night and have a dullish-to-sharp pain between my shoulder blades whenever i stand up straight. so today will be a hunching & creeping day for me too, little bird!

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Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:00 pm
by rischka
He is adorb. I saw a flight of white pelicans over the missouri River yesterday. It was worth the trip

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:04 pm
by sally
just casually seeing pelicans!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMwiEmJPkIs

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:36 pm
by greennui
Just realized earlier that the local geese gang aren't Canada geese

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But in fact Barnacle geese...

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Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:37 am
by sally
i don't think i've ever seen a barnacle goose, they don't come inland to the uk apparently.

we're not exactly replete with geese, we've got the white ones, the canada ones and in only one reservoir that i've seen around here, we have the greylag goose

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Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:19 pm
by greennui
Saw some Greylag ones earlier today as I was strolling along the waterfront.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle_goose_myth

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Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:32 pm
by sally
Several writers make reference to a canon drawing a distinction between the Barnacle Goose as a "bird", and as a "fish" resulting from Pope Innocent III at this Council. The decision would have been important for adherents to Western Catholic Church, especially during Lent (with its fast-days), when believers were banned from eating "meat" - e.g. birds
people weren't so bloody stupid were they? mmmm this lovely tasty feathery fish mmmm of course i am observing lent

Re: The Birds

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:55 pm
by rischka
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saw quite a few of these guys in missouri! i think i've only ever seen one in arizona. it's the red, red American robin :D saying what the hell, my worms are frozen

i saw several flocks of starlings too which i imagined were doing a mild version of murmuration 8-) practicing for the big show happening somewhere else

Re: The Birds

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:50 pm
by rischka
oooh there's a dove sitting a nest in my big pine tree. i've only seen it now cuz a quail is making a distress call -- from ten feet off the ground. no idea how he got up there, quail aren't good flyers. i think he's frightened but he's perfectly capable of coasting to the ground. :? that's what WINGS are for? edit: he seems to have figured it out

Re: The Birds

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:08 pm
by rischka

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:55 pm
by Jürka
A finch hidden inside a hair curler as part of what the authorities said was an attempt to smuggle 35 songbirds into the United States.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyre ... birds.html
Man Caught Smuggling 35 Songbirds Into J.F.K. Airport, Authorities Say
Kevin Andre McKenzie of Guyana concealed finches inside hair curlers in his clothing, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said.


The amenities were anything but first class for these star crooners: 35 songbirds were discovered hidden inside hair curlers in a man’s clothing when he arrived this week at Kennedy International Airport in New York, the authorities said.

The man, Kevin Andre McKenzie of Guyana, is now facing a federal smuggling charge, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which said that he admitted that he had been offered $3,000 to bring the birds into the country from South America.

The birds were identified as finches by customs agents, who the authorities said had selected Mr. McKenzie, 36, for screening when he arrived on Monday aboard a JetBlue flight from Georgetown, Guyana.

Known for their singing ability, finches have become a valuable commodity in places like Brooklyn and Queens, where the caged birds are pitted in competition against one another, often in parks. The ones that can sing fastest or longest typically win, reaping not only bragging rights for their owners but also gambling money — not to mention scrutiny from law enforcement officers that has led to a string of previous arrests. There is also a premium on vocal ability.

“In such contests, often conducted in public areas like parks, two finches sing and a judge selects the bird determined to have the best voice,” Kathryn McCabe, a special agent for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, said in the criminal complaint against Mr. McKenzie.

Photos taken by customs agents showed the hair curlers lining the inside of a suit jacket worn by Mr. McKenzie and wrapped around his legs beneath his pants, according to the complaint.

“Although certain species of finch are available in the United States, species from Guyana are believed to sing better and are therefore more valuable,” Ms. McCabe said.

Mr. McKenzie was released on a $25,000 bond after making an initial appearance on Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn.

James Darrow, a federal public defender for Mr. McKenzie, declined to comment on Wednesday.

Under federal law, a permit from the Fish and Wildlife Service is required to bring any wildlife into the country. Birds that are imported for commercial purposes must be quarantined for 30 days to prevent the spread of diseases like the bird flu and Newcastle disease, a contagious avian virus than can infect humans and domestic poultry, officials said.

Chestnut-bellied seed finches trapped in Guyana are highly sought crooners, with males sometimes selling for as much as $10,000, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service, which conducted a multiyear investigation, nicknamed Operation G-Bird, that focused on the illegal smuggling of the prized competitors.

Mr. McKenzie’s arrest was the third time that customs agents had intercepted smuggled finches at J.F.K. Airport in the past month.

Last month, U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers said that they found 29 finches that had been smuggled in hair curlers by a traveler at J.F.K., whom they fined $300 and sent back to Guyana. Last week, another man was caught smuggling 40 finches at the airport. He was also fined and returned to Guyana.

In 2019, a Connecticut man was charged with smuggling 34 finches that had been nestled inside plastic hair curlers and placed in carry-on luggage at J.F.K. One year earlier, two men were arrested at J.F.K. and charged with smuggling 26 of the birds between them in hair curlers rolled into their socks.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:50 pm
by rischka
who is paying $10,000 for these birds. anyways birds should be FREEEE

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Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:59 pm
by Jürka
nice!

Re: The Birds

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:09 pm
by sally

Re: The Birds

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 4:25 pm
by greennui
"one who sneaks in roundpole fences" in Swedish, kinda similar to Danish.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 11:13 pm
by greennui

Re: The Birds

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:48 pm
by sally

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:18 am
by rischka
https://youtu.be/dRWjPaTMH0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kw5fRwHb7o&t=1s

https://www.sciencealert.com/clever-coc ... in-looting

cockatoos in australia have learned to loot trash bins and spread this knowledge to the suburbs. clever buggers
Before 2018, the results show these bin-opening skills of cockatoos were confined to just three suburbs of Sydney, each separated by quite a lot of distance. Yet after 2019, the technique had rippled out to 41 surrounding neighborhoods as well.

That's a rapid spread in a very short period of time, and researchers think it's due to birds culturally learning and adopting the technique.

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:24 am
by rischka

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:17 pm
by sally
it's odd, i went down a clever cockatoo youtube hole and my recommendations all became ones for rabid raccoons. (?)

anyway, from THE legendary travels:

https://twitter.com/BLMedieval/status/1 ... 1954741263

Re: The Birds

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:33 pm
by Jürka
nice!

snapshots i did (in one of the local museums) the other day.
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Re: The Birds

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:06 pm
by Jürka
Remedios Varo (1908-1963)
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Re: The Birds

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:56 pm
by rischka
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opin ... dors-69359
Genetic analyses uncover asexual reproduction by two female California condors despite access to fertile mates.

The asexually produced offspring were especially surprising to scientists because both female birds were housed with males that sired other offspring with them before and after the unfertilized yet viable eggs were produced (one in 2001 and one in 2009). “Why it happened? We just don’t know,” Oliver Ryder, study coauthor and director of conservation genetics for the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance, tells National Geographic. “What we do know is that it happened more than once, and it happened to different females.”

“Will it happen again? I rather believe so,” he says.
both offspring were males
Both of the parthenotes were relatively small and died before becoming sexually mature, at 1.9 and 7.9 years old.
Other known examples of parthenogenesis in birds have almost all died before hatching, University of Tulsa evolutionary biologist Warren Booth tells Wired. That these condors lived as long as they did might suggest viable parthenogenetic offspring are possible in the species or raptors more generally, he says, so he considers the paper “one of the most important studies in the field of parthenogenesis and birds in a long time.”

“These findings now raise questions about whether this might occur undetected in other species,” Ryder tells the Associated Press. “The only reason we were able to identify that this had happened [in the condors] is because of these detailed genetic studies,” he says to National Geographic. “So, the birds in your backyard, are they occasionally producing a parthenogenetic chick? Nobody’s looking in deep enough detail to answer that question.”
could help to explain why birds are so successful at colonizing all corners of the world