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greg x wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:41 am Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Cardi B, or Li'l Nas X, Arcade Fire, TV on the Radio, Band of Horses

Never heard of most of those you list (only know about the existence of Beyonce, Taylor Swift and Arcade Fire on this planet, and only listened to one of them in my life, Beyonce when she was singing in that girl group in the late 90s/early 00s) - I know and enjoy Radiohead and REM, though. Hope that helps answering your question from the perspective of a European in his late 30s.

greg x wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:41 am Question: What's your opinion on the state of cultural saturation for music today compared to previous eras? It's obvious certain pop music has a wide cultural reach in terms of it being hard to miss at least in some sense of awareness of its existence, say Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Cardi B, or Li'l Nas X most recently, but what about bands like Arcade Fire or TV on the Radio or Band of Horses? They sell tickets and "albums", are critically acclaimed, and of course will be well known among people who care about caring about music, but how much has awareness about them and/or their sound gone beyond that to the larger culture that doesn't really care about the music in a broad sense, say in contrast to the kind of cultural saturation bands like Radiohead or REM had, or whoever you think is a near analogy for Arcade Fire or the others? (Admittedly a US centric focus, but I'd also be interested in hearing what the case might be in other countries for whatever music over the last couple decades or so.)

It seems mostly irrelevant now compared to past eras. Music. Film too. Rock is most certainly dead, at least in the mainstream. It's a genre full of legacy acts on that level.

What am I listening to? One of the greatest metal bands of all time. That's who!

the new iron maiden record is really good!

i went to college in the mid 2000s. my first roommate sophomore year was a fairly serious volleyball player who went by the name of bic. he slept most of the time, i later found out that his girlfriend dumped him the second week of the semester so that might be why. the only media he seemed to consume were episodes of family guy and the first arcade fire album. i still don't think i've actually heard any of their other music since then.

i did own the first tv on the radio ep, so i must have been interested in them for some reason, but after that i'm not sure i've ever heard anything of their work. don't know who band of horses are or were.

i remember telling an ex who grew up in south east asia that it was possible for someone like bonnie prince billy, who has never had a song on the radio and is probably unknown to 99% of americans, to sell out multiple mid to large sized venues in a city like new york. i didn't really have an answer as to why.

last week i (more or less early 30s, upstate new york) found myself in a bar around midnight with an irish bartender in his 40s and an off-duty bartender in her late '50s who grew up in tennessee. the off-duty bartender and i found we had more or less the same taste in classic country. the bartender confessed he had never heard of any of the people we were talking about. i mentioned not liking the new kacey musgraves album but neither of them knew who she was.

Yeah, I'm not so much interested in whether people like Arcade Fire or whoever, though that's fine to talk about of course, I'm more just curious about how people see, or don't, the outlines of mass culture and if that's changed over the last fifteen years or so with the rise of Facebook, Twitter, and all the other social media sites. My feeling is that it was once much easier to get a feel for the outline of the culture, but that's no longer the case. Whether you liked Radiohead or REM or not, in the US at least, you couldn't easily avoid hearing them or seeing them mentioned at least, but now the feeling is that other than the biggest pop stars, the body of the culture has become harder to make out as people are digging into their own things and only sharing those interests with the like minded or those who actively seek out the info. With movies, the closest equivalent is the Disney product dominance and everything else seeming to become more or less niche interests, if my feeling is right, which is what I'm asking about. I don't know how it might be in other countries of course either in regards to their own media or how "known" the major US stuff is compared to the early 2000s. Does it feel like cultural saturation is changing? And in what way, narrowing or broadening if so? Or is it more or less the same level of shared cultural awareness just around different kinds of things? (Not what any one of us might like, but how much shared understanding of what the culture is in a sense.) NRH's Kacey Musgraves example being a useful one in that regard.

Whether this would be a good thing or bad is also a separate question that requires getting a feel for the other first I think.

Found this fantastic goth album. Feels a lot like Pearl Jam with Johnny Marr's guitar style. Turns out the band is quite huge in Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trbXHMyxEY

having myself my little annual halloween playlist - all my fave swedish bands - witchcraft/graveyard/witchery...the finnish reverend bizarre (best super sexy song lyrics ever in fucking wizard - 'darkness falls, penetrating my balls') and for ghosts i have king gizzard's crumbling castle, which is the exact aural equivalent of the feeling i had reading nicola pugliese's malacqua and always brings it to mind (and some parts of noroît as well whilst we're at it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLP8rFrL1W0


but my current non classical non halloween earworm driving me mad is psychedelic rock from germany godssake get those riffs out of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvENuZs-5CQ

Ah, very nice. I've been diggin' on Izvir, a Yugoslavian prog rock band from '77

http://youtu.be/Pwn0o8W8kD0

And not neglecting the Halloween spirit by listening to whatever a Donato Paolucci Jr. might be. A weird deep cut rec by the Youtube algorithm that amuses me.

http://youtu.be/lY6qTZwNdN0

Thanks guys and my neighbors also thank you happy Halloween

there are two little flicks by Bruno Sukrow that are music videos (to the songs sung in English).
THE LOST TAPES: KING OF NOTHING (from an album "Inconvenience") and LALAFOUFOU: (LIKE) SOME OLD FRIEND (from an album "In the Fires of Mahaba") — the first video is more wtf (lunatic), the second is more down to earth (sublunary).

https://youtu.be/01Wwjq_HZ50
https://youtu.be/XAkVPAMH2u8

Still processing the 1986 Bellocchio, don't think I liked it much... but it reminded me of this song from way back when.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhDUCny ... O6&index=5

is devil in the flesh from the period where bellocchio is super into some kind of borderline cultlike psychotherapy stuff? it's a really weird period of movies for him, and i've kind of been putting devil off for those reasons...but cristina alvarez lopez makes it sound great here

https://laughmotel.wordpress.com/2019/0 ... the-flesh/

love that art bears album...

Having some off-the-wall ideology to promote could explain why I found it troubling; Filipe and somebody else on lb seem to acknowledge that something like that is happening, so... yeah, I guess. Thanks for the link.

have tried to read up on massimo fagioli and his ideas but frankly it's a bit out of my depth. not sure if it can be summed up as ideology, but i do get the sense he is looking for something in the wake of his frustrations with the more direct leftist politics of his his earlier films...

but still (from the genuine nuts witches sabbath from '88)

https://twitter.com/nrogershancock/stat ... 75170?s=20

hi R_Nilsson19

https://open.spotify.com/track/7GkNvyhB ... wPmnnV9hBb

rischka wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:44 pm hi R_Nilsson19

Hello Super compatible stelladallas!

enjoyed this hour long mix from the great jim o'rourke - https://www.nts.live/shows/jim-o-rourke ... nuary-2022

it is mostly structured around the strange 10-minute track "psycho drama" by rupert holmes, best known as the pina colada song guy but otherwise a very weird 70s pop auteur dude...

decided to soundtrack the next year poll. guys please post 72 recs here.

beginning with a fave (my dad was utterly obsessed with jethro tull, constant soundtrack of my youth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldXdnZtTWp8

actually scratch that, i've fallen down a prog/krautrock hole and may never come out

obviously (the greatest 1972 hit)...

https://youtu.be/8QgOGl5Oes0

and meanwhile, in my fuddle duddle osh kosh homeland...

https://youtu.be/DVT2WCYB5NA