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Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 12:10 pm
by wba
This is a wonderful year!
Don't know where to start...

listing 20 masterpieces isn't hard for this year, it's leaving off other masterpieces.


films seen: 80+

Current Ballot (and final one, if I don't get to see any more masterpieces from that year till the end of the poll)

ranked in order of preference (no tiers)


01. Monika und die Sechzehnjährigen (Charly Steinberger, West Germany)
02. Dzieje grzechu "The Story of Sin" (Walerian Borowczyk, Poland)
03. Posse (Kirk Douglas, USA)
04. Der zweite Frühling "Second Spring" (Ulli Lommel, West Germany/Italy)
05. Meikyû-tan "Labyrinth Tale" (Shuji Terayama, Japan)
06. Örökbefogadás "Adoption" (Márta Mészáros, Hungary)
07. Lèvres de sang "Lips of Blood" (Jean Rollin, France)
08. Zorro (Duccio Tessari, Italy/France)
09. Peccati di gioventù "Sins of Youth" (Silvio Amadio, Italy)
10. L'important c'est d'aimer "That Most Important Thing: Love" (Andrzej Zulawski, France/Italy/West Germany)

11. Diabolicamente... Letizia "Sex, Demons and Death" (Salvatore Bugnatelli, Italy)
12. La bête "The Beast" (Walerian Borowczyk, France)
13. Professione: reporter "The Passenger" (Michelangelo Antonioni, Italy/France/Spain)
14. Roma violenta "Violent Rome" (Marino Girolami, Italy)
15. La faille "Weak Spot" (Peter Fleischmann, France/Italy/West Germany)
16. Eiszeit "Ice Age" (Peter Zadek, West Germany)
17. The Way the Eagle Shits (Al Levin, USA)
18. Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, UK/USA)
19. Lotte in Weimar (Egon Günther, East Germany)
20. Meng long zheng dong "Superdragon vs. Superman" (Chia-Chun Wu, Hong Kong, Taiwan)



current watchlist

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Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:20 pm
by sally
well i have seen my first contender that might oust an old-view from my final list

wolkenpfad by bastian clevé, who i've never heard of before and seems to mostly manipulate the way he films things in fun ways and other tricksy stuff but this one is....basically made for me, it's just lots of misanthropic no-trace-of-human-ever-bliss benning/huttonish landscape shots (but without the highest hutton sublime) in somewhere that could be a scaled-up yorkshire dales with slightly more water, and with a vaguely ominous, foreboding soundtrack. loved it

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Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:57 pm
by Jürka
1975 poll No7-8-9
KINESIS (Lillian F. Schwartz)
COLLAGE (Lillian F. Schwartz)
ALAE (Lillian F. Schwartz)

all 3 films (with no dialogues) can be found/watched after scrolling down on this page... http://lillian.com/films/

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:51 am
by rischka
robert kramer's milestones. painfully sincere hippie shit. the depressing part is the issues haven't changed

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you will see a live birth in the last half hour just fyi

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:23 pm
by Jürka
1975 poll No11
LUMAAQ: AN ESKIMO LEGEND (Co Hoedeman)... imdb = 1977, all other databases = 1975
https://letterboxd.com/film/lumaaq-an-eskimo-legend/
An Inuit tale of familial revenge.
https://youtu.be/QSVm-Fg3ltI

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:48 pm
by Jürka
1975 poll No15
KITSCH IN SYNCH (Adam Beckett)

https://youtu.be/rNapzpMzNNs

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:57 pm
by Jürka
1975 poll No18
200 (Vince Collins)
https://letterboxd.com/film/200/
An psychedelic animated short celebrating America’s bicentennial.
https://youtu.be/JZ3EdI5mz08

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:36 pm
by rischka
like a message from beyond, today was added to freeleach

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Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:30 am
by Holymanm
yas face:

Picnic at Hanging Rock (Peter Weir, 1975)
The Great Waldo Pepper (George Roy Hill, 1975)
Dersu Uzala (Akira Kurosawa, 1975)
The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
The Flying Guillotine (Meng Hua Ho, 1975)
The Return of the Pink Panther (Blake Edwards, 1975)
Sirius (Frantisek Vlácil, 1975)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones, 1975)
The Prisoner of Second Avenue (Melvin Frank, 1975)
How to Drown Dr. M. or the End of Water Spirits in Bohemia (Václav Vorlícek, 1975)
One Hundred Days After Childhood (Sergei Solovyov, 1975)
March of Fools (Kil-jong Ha, 1975)
Fear of Fear (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1975)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Miloš Forman, 1975)
The Rocky Horror Picture Show (Jim Sharman, 1975)

gas face:

Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975)
Tommy (Ken Russell, 1975)
Shampoo (Hal Ashby, 1975)

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:48 pm
by rischka
i rather liked 'that most important thing: love'... it's a bit hysterical but that's zulawski? good cast and wonderful movie poster decor. i know he's canceled but kinski stomping a guy then having a threesome with some hookers was really funny. romy schneider was AMAZING as the 'tortured woman' (a zulawski obsession?) and i may make it a double feature with the chabrol where romy stars with...rod steiger :| Les innocents aux mains sales/dirty hands

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Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 12:03 am
by brian d
haha and that's one of the least hysterical of his movies. zulawski is kinda like hitchcock and however many others, really messed up a lot of the actresses that starred for him. except sophie marceau i guess, but she's barely ever hanging onto sanity in his films.

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 12:07 am
by greennui
Romy's so great in that one. Also love Delerue's score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lZO1N5OGg

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 12:10 am
by rischka
yes the delerue score was very romantic. i may come around to loving the film: i liked individual pieces a great deal. i will definitely acquire a better copy 8-)

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:25 pm
by greennui
Wolkenpfad, scored by Klaus Schulze is the coziest short of the year for me along with the silent Translucent Appearances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9CRJjd1u8

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:32 pm
by sally
yay!

was going to watch that one but i read someone say that it 'went too fast' (????) am not feeling very zippy so discounted adding it to my watchlist, but perhaps i won't!

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:42 pm
by Silga
Thoroughly enjoyed Jacques Deray's Flic Story with Alain Delon and Jean-Louis Trintignant. Definitely going to my final list.

and as a fan of Edith Piaf, I particularly loved this scene:
Spoiler!

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:49 pm
by ---
oh frick i forgot about that, i need to watch that!!

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:36 pm
by sally
ahem anyone who has a mubi subscription *cough* walerian borowczyk's letter from paris is on there now (at least in the uk) and it's 1975 on imdb, 76 on mubi and 77 on letterboxd, so i'm claiming it for this poll

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:46 pm
by Monsieur Arkadin
Watched Verhoeven's Katie Tippel for this the other day. Loved it. I've been re-falling in love with Verhoeven all year. It's definitely going on my final list. Watched it back to back with Manila In The Claws of Light and despite the massive difference in tone, there's a good double feature about moving to the "big city" and finding nothing but exploitation.

Also, loved seeing the germs that would later grow into Showgirls.

This one felt more akin to Bunuel than almost anything else I've seen by Verhoeven... but maybe that was the combining of toilets and dinner tables.
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This may end up being my favorite Verhoeven.

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:11 pm
by Silga
Aloha Bobby and Rose (Floyd Mutrux) is not likely to end up on my final list, but it's a nice, little film with a great soundtrack featuring songs from Elton John, The Temptations, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Bob Dylan, etc.
Spoiler!

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:51 pm
by sally
i do not understand how borowczyk ended up making porn, because he's such a committed sensualist *waves at fellow Pole gombrowicz rolling peas under the table* that everything is outrageously voluptuous (i love him) i mean there's apples in this letter to paris that are OBSCENE, as are the curls of hair sticking out the back of an old crone's coat, and all the statues are the erotic idealization of death.

i love city symphonies and god i am going to paris when this plague is over

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:33 am
by wba
twodeadmagpies wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:51 pm i do not understand how borowczyk ended up making porn, because he's such a committed sensualist *waves at fellow Pole gombrowicz rolling peas under the table* that everything is outrageously voluptuous (i love him) i mean there's apples in this letter to paris that are OBSCENE, as are the curls of hair sticking out the back of an old crone's coat, and all the statues are the erotic idealization of death.
I remember when I saw my first glimpse of Borowczyk as many of his films were been shown on national television in Slovenia as part of a retrospective every day in the evenings some 20 years ago, and when I tuned in there was merely a shot of a wall for a few seconds and it was so stunning, so obscene, so erotic I immediately turned off the TV cause I couldn't stand it any longer. This glimpse already felt like a revelation, and when I was back in Germany and went to my local specialized videostore a few weeks later, after I had managed to get a grip on my excitement, I also rented a Borowczyk, and yes, it was still true what I had experienced: the first and only commercial filmmaker who could eroticize objects and everything through the gaze and his camera, the way I felt them or the way I experienced the world. Definitely a soulmate.

The only similarly exciting thing that's happened to me before with cinema was when I was watching some old Slovenian/ex-Yugoslav classics on VHS in some study room of the cinematheque in Ljubljana while I was still a teenager and at school and still wanted to become a film director, and I by chance got a glimpse of a film that had also been taped on the same cassete and immediately went "WHOA, THIS GUY IS MOVING THE CAMERA AND SHOOTING EXACTLY WHAT I'VE ALWAYS IDEALLY WANTED TO SHOOT IF I EVER BECAME A FILMMAKER!". Later I discovered that guy was called Zulawski, and that there obviously already was someone making films the way I had dreamt it, but didn't know how to realize it.

Art is full of strange adventures...

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:19 pm
by rischka
the captivating star of happiness -- watched cuz soviets do costume drama like nobody's business. it's a sympathetic look at the aristocratic decembrist plot to bring democratic reforms to russia. motyl had to do many rewrites to please soviet censors. it's dedicated to the 'women of russia' as a number of the delicate upperclass women chose to travel to siberia in exile with their husbands in spite of many hardships. Stand by your man, ladies! anyways... the structure of 'floating' flashbacks to scenes of youth and romance works well and even better are the many humorous scenes interspersed with tragedy, like the execution where the ropes are too short, then half of them break anyway...

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:05 am
by rischka
having watched day of the locust, i take back what i said about zulawski being somewhat hysterical. i now know why no one talks about this one?!

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nice to see karen black in a lead role, she is grand. it was fun spotting such 70s luminaries as higgins from magnum pi and lovey howell of gilligan's island (playing a madam)

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:26 pm
by St. Gloede
Zerkalo, Numero Deux, Salo and Holy Grail are the only four of these I rewatched relatively recently, while Under the Pavement Lies the Strand and 141 Minutes from the Unfinished Sentence are the only two I saw for the first time over the last five years - so the rankings may be a little off. If I could give Zerkalo an undisputed top vote I would.

Went for the 4 tier set-up. Runner-ups below.

Tier 1
Zerkalo (1975, Andrei Tarkovsky)
Dersu Uzala (1975, Akira Kurosawa)
Nashville (1975, Robert Altman)
Barry Lyndon (1975, Stanley Kubrick)
Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975, Peter Weir)

Tier 2
Numéro deux (1975, Jean-Luc Godard)
Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1975, Pier Paolo Pasolini)
Sakura no mori no mankai no shita / Under The Blossoming Cherry Trees (1975, Masahiro Shinoda)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975, Milos Forman)
Le jardin qui bascule / The Garden That Tilts (1975, Guy Gilles)

Tier 3
Angst vor der Angst / Fear of Fear (1975, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975, Chantal Akerman)
The Man Who Would Be King (1975, John Huston)
Unter dem Pflaster ist der Strand / Under the Pavement Lies the Strand (1975, Helma Sanders-Brahms)
Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel (1975, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)

Tier 4
Faustrecht der Freiheit / Fox and His Friends (1975, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975, Terry Gilliam)
Giliap (1975, Roy Andersson)
L'arbre de Guernica / The Tree of Guernica (1975, Fernando Arrabal)
141 perc a befejezetlen mondatból / 141 Minutes from the Unfinished Sentence (1975, Zoltan Fabri)

Honorable mentions

Duvidha (1975, Mani Kaul)
Dog Day Afternoon (1975, Sidney Lumet)
Section spéciale / Special Section (1975, Costa-Gavras)
Jaws (1975, Steven Spielberg)
Grey Gardens (1975, The Maysles Bros, Muffie Meyer & Ellen Hovde)
Furtivos / Poachers (1975, José Luis Borau)
Love and Death (1975, Woody Allen)
The Man in the Glass Booth (1975. Arthur Hiller)
Tommy (1975, Ken Russell)
Nazareno Cruz y el lobo / The Nazarene Cross and the Wolf (1975, Leonardo Favio)
Falsche Bewegung / The Wrong Movement (1975, Wim Wenders)
Le jeu avec le feu / Playing With Fire (1975, Alain Robbe-Grillet)
Pasqualino Settebellezze / Seven Beauties (1975, Lina Wertmüller)
Jingi no hakaba / Graveyard of Honor (1975, Kinji Fukasaku)
Hard Times (1975, Walter Hill)
Sirius (1975, Frantisek Vlacil)
Smile (1975, Michael Ritchie)
Professione: reporter (1975, Michelangelo Antonioni)
O Rei da Noite / King of the Night (1975, Hector Babenco)
Profondo rosso / Deep Red (1975, Dario Argento)
Det gode og det onde / Good and Evil (1975, Jørgen Leth)
Wie ein Vogel auf dem Draht / Like a Bird on a Wire (1975, Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
Wieczne pretensje / Permanent Objections (1975, Grzegorz Królikiewicz)
Cousin cousine (1975, Jean-Charles Tacchella)

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 10:06 am
by Angel
Unranked ballot
Ahdat sanawovach el-djamr (‎Chronicle of the Years of Fire)
Al karnak (Karnak Café)
Bite the Bullet
Cursa (The Long Drive)
Deewaar (Wall)
Farewell, My Lovely
Gina
Jana Aranya (The Middleman)
La donna della domenica (The Sunday Woman)
Le sauvage (Lovers Like Us)
Le vieux fusil (The Old Gun)
Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag (Manila in the Claws of Light)
Muna Moto (The Child of Another)
Night Moves
Otobüs (The Bus)
Shivers
The Man Who Would Be King
The Wilby Conspiracy
The Wind and the Lion
Three Days of the Condor

Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500)
Barry Lyndon
Dersu Uzala
Dog Day Afternoon
Grey Gardens
Hababam Sinifi
India Song
Jaws
Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du commerce, 1080 Bruxelles
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Nashville
Numéro deux
O thiasos
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Picnic at Hanging Rock
Professione: reporter
Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma
Sholay
Vremena goda
Xala
Zerkalo

To see before the deadline
Dokter Pulder zaait papavers
Nishant
Noce i dnie
Dupont Lajoie (rewatch)

Wanted
Irene, Irene
Kandu
Lina Braake
Premiya

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:17 pm
by sally
hi, i want to live in this country

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(ulrike ottinger country)

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm
by Angel
Boo!

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Daneliuc's best. :P

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm
by sally
Angel wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm Boo!

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Daneliuc's best. :P
argh angel have you got a sub file for this???

Re: 1975 poll 2.0

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:32 pm
by Angel
twodeadmagpies wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:13 pm
Angel wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:05 pm Daneliuc's best. :P
argh angel have you got a sub file for this???
Uploaded. ;)