SCFZ poll: Jean Rollin

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Filipe Furtado described Night of the Hunted on letterboxd as "A lousy horror film that also happens to be an exciting experimental one", which I think is a pretty apt description of Rollin as a director as well.
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I find it kinda interesting that this video with footage from Rollin's rather obscure Lost in New York has got 25 million views on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJJ8hWDXWGs
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greennui wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:14 pm Filipe Furtado described Night of the Hunted on letterboxd as "A lousy horror film that also happens to be an exciting experimental one", which I think is a pretty apt description of Rollin as a director as well.
I was never a big fan of horror so maybe that's why I liked it so much.
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greennui wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:14 pm Filipe Furtado described Night of the Hunted on letterboxd as "A lousy horror film that also happens to be an exciting experimental one", which I think is a pretty apt description of Rollin as a director as well.
Filipe Furtado is one of my favs.

I'm not feeling up for Rollin's movies right now (too much sexual content), but I do hope to explore them one day for basically that reason, this strange cross between horror and experimental that seems very up my alley. I really enjoyed Herschell Gordon Lewis's Blood Feast for that same quality and hope Lewis's others will be more of the same.
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Just watched Rollin's debut short, Les amours jaunes, which hasn't been mentioned here yet so I'm gonna add it to my list. He really likes that beach, doesn't he?
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I do wonder how much genre/sexual content his films would have featured if he hadn't needed to adhere to genre obligations in order to receive funding.

That beach at Dieppe, I wonder if there's other cases of a director returning to the same location again and again throughout his filmography, Ford and Monument Valley perhaps but it doesn't seem as obsessive as Rollin's for that beach, which seems to be connected to his childhood.
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greennui wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:53 pm I do wonder how much genre/sexual content his films would have featured if he hadn't needed to adhere to genre obligations in order to receive funding.
Well, at least he wouldn't have done any porn, cause he disliked shooting that, as far as I know.
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i've tabulated this, but there's a tie for first right now, so i'll leave this open a bit longer in hopes that someone else will post a ballot.

and if anyone didn't notice, i extended the rules for this poll, so if you were eligible to post a longer ballot because of that but have not yet done so, feel free! but if you do, please make a new post in this thread, quoting your earlier ballot, so i can see how your ballot changed and can correctly adjust the tally.

if no new votes come in to break the tie, i'll start up a tiebreaker (but i fear we'll still have a tie after that, possibly)
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I'm planning on watching The Iron Rose tonight if that would help.
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flip wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:07 pm i've tabulated this, but there's a tie for first right now, so i'll leave this open a bit longer in hopes that someone else will post a ballot.

and if anyone didn't notice, i extended the rules for this poll, so if you were eligible to post a longer ballot because of that but have not yet done so, feel free! but if you do, please make a new post in this thread, quoting your earlier ballot, so i can see how your ballot changed and can correctly adjust the tally.

if no new votes come in to break the tie, i'll start up a tiebreaker (but i fear we'll still have a tie after that, possibly)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm able to post 8 titles then?
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greennui wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:39 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm able to post 8 titles then?
yes, if you've seen 15+ rollin films, you can post up to 8 films in your ballot with the extended rules (the 6th, 7th and 8th films get 0.5, 0.3 and 0.1 points respectively)
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MrCarmady wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:26 pm I'm planning on watching The Iron Rose tonight if that would help.
so no one votes strategically, i don't want to reveal which films are tied for first (though anyone who really wanted to know could tally the ballots themselves i guess), but any viewing that might lead to an updated ballot may very well help to break the tie, so i'll wait until tomorrow to finalize the results
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greennui wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 1:44 pm Seen 16.

The Nude Vampire
Fascination
The Night of the Hunted
Lost in New York
The Living Dead Girl

Would like to see Demoniacs, his only pirate film before the deadline.
The Nude Vampire
Fascination
The Night of the Hunted
Lost in New York
The Living Dead Girl
Requiem for a Vampire
Two Orphan Vampires
The Escapees

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john ryan wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 3:17 pm
1. The Grapes of Death
2. The Nude Vampire
3. Lost in New York
4. The Iron Rose
5. Fascination
6. The Shiver of the Vampires
7. Two Orphan Vampires
Minor change.

1. The Grapes of Death
2. The Nude Vampire
3. Lost in New York
4. The Iron Rose
5. Fascination
6. The Shiver of the Vampires
7. The Mask of Medusa
8. Two Orphan Vampires
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MrCarmady wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 4:46 pm Seen 5.

Fascination
The Night of the Hunted
Les amours jaunes
Just saw The Iron Rose which easily kicks Les amours jaunes off the list.

Seen 6:
Fascination
The Iron Rose
The Night of the Hunted

Very productive director's poll for me - saw 3 and kinda completely re-evaluated him in the process after recently disliking La vampire nue and thinking Fascination was just a fluke.
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thanks, conveniently that breaks the tie! i thought fascination was going to win, i'm not too knowledgeable about rollin but i was under the impression that was his best-loved film. but that wasn't our winner:

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1. The Iron Rose (1973) -- 14 pts
2. The Grapes of Death (1978) -- 12 pts
3. Fascination (1979) -- 10 pts
4. The Nude Vampire (1970) -- 9 pts
5. Le Viol du Vampire (1968) -- 8 pts
5. Night of the Hunted (1980) -- 8 pts
7. Lost in New York (1989) -- 5 pts
8. The Shiver of the Vampires (1971) -- 4.5 pts
9. Lips of Blood (1974) -- 2.5 pts
10. The Living Dead Girl (1982) -- 1 pt
11. Requiem for a Vampire (1971) -- 0.5 pts
12. Two Orphan Vampires (1997) -- 0.4 pts
13. The Mask of Medusa (2010) -- 0.3 pts
14. The Runaways (1981) -- 0.1 pts
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I wish Fascination had won but we have a worthy winner regardless. Now I've got to watch The Grapes of Death and hopefully kick myself for not allowing that one to win...
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Well, I always thought THE IRON ROSE was the consensus favorite among Rollin Fans, so no surprise here.
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posted to lbox:

https://letterboxd.com/fliptrotsky/list ... -poll-213/

i think i'm up to date now with getting these polls to letterbox
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The Iron Rose is a good pick cuz even though Fascination and Grapes of Death are really good films they aren't as thoroughly Rollinian as Iron Rose.

MrC didn't like it but The Nude Vampire remains my favourite, like a half-remembered pulpish nightmare of Feuillade that has taken a modern semblance.
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greennui wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:50 pm The Iron Rose is a good pick cuz even though Fascination and Grapes of Death are really good films they aren't as thoroughly Rollinian as Iron Rose.

MrC didn't like it but The Nude Vampire remains my favourite, like a half-remembered pulpish nightmare of Feuillade that has taken a modern semblance.
I really hated the twist in La vampire nue, visually it's every bit as good as the others but it doesn't get out of its own way. (I haven't seen any Feuillade so maybe that's the ticket) The Iron Rose refuses to explain anything, really, for all we know nothing supernatural happens in it at all and it's just about fear and madness, which I think is a much stronger concept to build a film around than dimension-travelling invulnerable not-vampires. I am keen to see Shiver of the Vampires and Lips of Blood next, I think he could easily become a favourite director of mine if the last two features I watched are anything to go on. Thanks for nominating him and encouraging me to keep exploring!
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