My Twentieth Century
Water and Power
Zatoichi
The Cyclist
A City of Sadness
Rikyu
Great Balls of Fire
Eversmile New Jersey
Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Sweetie
Powwow Highway
Yaaba
Breaking In
The Icicle Thief
True Love
Jesus of Montreal
Silent Night Deadly Night 3
Jacknife
Violent Cop
Shocker
Subject to possible change with a some other movies being roughly equal to most of those chosen. Who knows? I might even find time to watch some more from the year this go around.
1989 poll
1. Sweetie (Jane Campion)
Barroco (Paul Leduc)
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (Peter Greenaway)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee)
Gang of Four (Jacques Rivette)
Henry V (Kenneth Branagh)
Kiki's Delivery Service (Hayao Miyazaki)
Life Lessons (Martin Scorsese)
My Nights Are More Beautiful Than Your Days (Andrzej Zulawski)
Mystery Train (Jim Jarmusch)
Roselyne and the Lions (Jean-Jacques Beineix)
Santa Sangre (Alejandro Jodorowsky)
The Unbelievable Truth (Hal Hartley)
Yaaba (Idrissa Ouedraogo)
You Take Care Now (Ann Marie Fleming)
Want to watch:
Nostos: The Return (Franco Piavoli)
Violent Cop (Takeshi Kitano)
The 'Burbs (Joe Dante)
Revenge (Yermek Shinarbayev)
My Twentieth Century (Ildiko Enyedi)
Too Beautiful for You (Bertrand Blier)
Visitor to a Museum (Konstantin Lopushansky)
Joan of Arc of Magnolia (Ulrike Ottinger)
Route One (Robert Kramer)
Barroco (Paul Leduc)
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (Peter Greenaway)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee)
Gang of Four (Jacques Rivette)
Henry V (Kenneth Branagh)
Kiki's Delivery Service (Hayao Miyazaki)
Life Lessons (Martin Scorsese)
My Nights Are More Beautiful Than Your Days (Andrzej Zulawski)
Mystery Train (Jim Jarmusch)
Roselyne and the Lions (Jean-Jacques Beineix)
Santa Sangre (Alejandro Jodorowsky)
The Unbelievable Truth (Hal Hartley)
Yaaba (Idrissa Ouedraogo)
You Take Care Now (Ann Marie Fleming)
Want to watch:
Nostos: The Return (Franco Piavoli)
Violent Cop (Takeshi Kitano)
The 'Burbs (Joe Dante)
Revenge (Yermek Shinarbayev)
My Twentieth Century (Ildiko Enyedi)
Too Beautiful for You (Bertrand Blier)
Visitor to a Museum (Konstantin Lopushansky)
Joan of Arc of Magnolia (Ulrike Ottinger)
Route One (Robert Kramer)
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Lencho of the Apes
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man, that's another one that used to be 1989 on imdb. i'll find a replacement
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In the case of NEW YORK STORIES -- can we vote for individual sections of it? I'd vote for Scorsese's LIFE LESSONS, but Coppola's foul obscenity that I can't bring myself to type the name of makes it impossible for me to include the entire anthology.
These matters are best disposed of from a great height. Over water.
Not my poll, but that's how it used to roll anyway. Individual sections in anthologies were fine. Life Lessons already got one vote, may as well add another if you want to.
Regarding the IMDb thing, maybe we should just switch to using Letterboxd since that's where everyone seems to have an account and the results get posted there , so it'd make sense I guess. We could still use IMDb for movies not listed on boxd just to have some base for years.
Regarding the IMDb thing, maybe we should just switch to using Letterboxd since that's where everyone seems to have an account and the results get posted there , so it'd make sense I guess. We could still use IMDb for movies not listed on boxd just to have some base for years.
Yeah -- I'll give it a shot.
LIFE LESSONS (Scorsese)
DO THE RIGHT THING (Lee)
SEX LIES AND VIDEOTAPE (Soderbergh)
Seen enough to include more, of course, but I dislike way too many of the other films from that year, it seems. Pending final decision on the inclusion of LIFE LESSONS solo....
LIFE LESSONS (Scorsese)
DO THE RIGHT THING (Lee)
SEX LIES AND VIDEOTAPE (Soderbergh)
Seen enough to include more, of course, but I dislike way too many of the other films from that year, it seems. Pending final decision on the inclusion of LIFE LESSONS solo....
These matters are best disposed of from a great height. Over water.
Life Lessons is a reason I included New York Stories. I didn't know if I can include it separately from the others. So I await the decision as well. And would change my ballot accordingly.
I've got some 1989 titles lined up to watch before the voting deadline:
Music Box (Costa-Gavras)
Cat Chaser (Abel Ferrara)
For All Mankind (Al Reinert)
The Fabulous Baker Boys (Steve Kloves)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen)
Sex, Lies and Videotape (Steven Soderbergh)
Also, I've noticed that in 1989 quite a few famous directors made their last films. I wonder if any of them are good and worth checking out:
Rooftops (Robert Wise)
Street of No Return (Samuel Fuller)
Welcome Home (Franklin J. Schaffner)
Reunion (Jerry Schatzberg) His second to last film, however, his last film had barely any release.
Skin Deep (Blake Edwards) Not his last, but close.
Music Box (Costa-Gavras)
Cat Chaser (Abel Ferrara)
For All Mankind (Al Reinert)
The Fabulous Baker Boys (Steve Kloves)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen)
Sex, Lies and Videotape (Steven Soderbergh)
Also, I've noticed that in 1989 quite a few famous directors made their last films. I wonder if any of them are good and worth checking out:
Rooftops (Robert Wise)
Street of No Return (Samuel Fuller)
Welcome Home (Franklin J. Schaffner)
Reunion (Jerry Schatzberg) His second to last film, however, his last film had barely any release.
Skin Deep (Blake Edwards) Not his last, but close.
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I've seen one or maybe two parts of The Dekalog. Can I add those parts of it I've seen to my list, or do I go ahead and add The Dekalog to my list (which is kinda dishonest)?
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I've seen one or maybe two parts of The Dekalog. Can I add those parts of it I've seen to my list, or do I go ahead and add The Dekalog to my list (which is kinda dishonest)?
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Lencho of the Apes
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When there are no rules, people have to take responsibility for making their own decisions.
A third alternative for the people who want to vote for one segment of an anthology is to cast their vote for New York Stories: Life Lessons. That'll put the ball in my court at the end and force the decision onto me, if it turns out that there's any ambiguity in reading all the votes that were cast.
I agree with pabs that it would be dishonest to vote for a ten-segment film he's only seen two segments of, and urge him to consider whether votes he might cast for the two segments he's seen are likely to resonate with the ballots of other voters in a way that promotes those segments onto the final list. If he doesn't care about how his choices are represented on the final list, of course, that wouldn't be a factor.
The alternative to deciding for yourselves is to flog the issues through a period of discussion lengthy and extensive enough that people can reach a consensus of opinion on how to approach them. If that's what you want to do, fine... he said, huffily.
A third alternative for the people who want to vote for one segment of an anthology is to cast their vote for New York Stories: Life Lessons. That'll put the ball in my court at the end and force the decision onto me, if it turns out that there's any ambiguity in reading all the votes that were cast.
I agree with pabs that it would be dishonest to vote for a ten-segment film he's only seen two segments of, and urge him to consider whether votes he might cast for the two segments he's seen are likely to resonate with the ballots of other voters in a way that promotes those segments onto the final list. If he doesn't care about how his choices are represented on the final list, of course, that wouldn't be a factor.
The alternative to deciding for yourselves is to flog the issues through a period of discussion lengthy and extensive enough that people can reach a consensus of opinion on how to approach them. If that's what you want to do, fine... he said, huffily.
The opposite of 'reify' is... ?
I was browsing UbuWeb today (which annoyingly isn't indexed by Google video searches), and stumbled on a couple of potentially interesting 89s: Surname Viet Given Name Nam (Trinh T. Minh-ha) and Me & Rubyfruit (Sadie Benning).
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IMdb's year-listings have saved us some trouble!
I did some research and found out that the original 10 episode tv-series titled The Decalogue, and the expanded, cinematic versions of two of its episodes, A Short Film About Killing (an expanded version of Dekalog: Five) and A Short Film About Love (an expanded feature version of Dekalog: Six), are in fact three very distinct creations. To me that means it would be inaccurate if someone put The Dekalog (1989) in their list if they hadn't seen all 10 episodes of the tv series.
I'm happy to consider the entire tv series as one, standalone entity, and as a single entry in someone's list, as long as they have seen all 10 episodes. (It's listed as 1989-90 on IMdb, even though the entire series was first screened in Poland in 1988.)
A Short Film About Love and A Short Film About Killing are both listed as 1988 films on IMdb, so they're not eligible here.
Had all three been listed in the same IMdb year, I'd have had no objection seeing all three entries included on the same ballot, but as that isn't the case, we no longer have that problem!
Regardless, there are some of us here who don't like tv series included on the same list as feature films. I understand that argument too.
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IMdb's year-listings have saved us some trouble!
I did some research and found out that the original 10 episode tv-series titled The Decalogue, and the expanded, cinematic versions of two of its episodes, A Short Film About Killing (an expanded version of Dekalog: Five) and A Short Film About Love (an expanded feature version of Dekalog: Six), are in fact three very distinct creations. To me that means it would be inaccurate if someone put The Dekalog (1989) in their list if they hadn't seen all 10 episodes of the tv series.
I'm happy to consider the entire tv series as one, standalone entity, and as a single entry in someone's list, as long as they have seen all 10 episodes. (It's listed as 1989-90 on IMdb, even though the entire series was first screened in Poland in 1988.)
A Short Film About Love and A Short Film About Killing are both listed as 1988 films on IMdb, so they're not eligible here.
Had all three been listed in the same IMdb year, I'd have had no objection seeing all three entries included on the same ballot, but as that isn't the case, we no longer have that problem!
Regardless, there are some of us here who don't like tv series included on the same list as feature films. I understand that argument too.
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Lencho of the Apes
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Prokleti Domu Hajnu/Damned House Of Hajn - Svoboda, CZE
Unwholesome Eastern-bloc version of the big-creepy-house gothics of the '70s and/or black comedy about galloping insanity in a decaying old aristocratic family. Lisa And The Devil and The Cremator had a baby together.
Unwholesome Eastern-bloc version of the big-creepy-house gothics of the '70s and/or black comedy about galloping insanity in a decaying old aristocratic family. Lisa And The Devil and The Cremator had a baby together.
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ewwLisa And The Devil and The Cremator had a baby together.
i've been watching a city of sadness and it's one of the very best hous i've seen
can someone tell bure that 1923 is over :geek:
Great, I got it and now it's the next in line!
Just the angstiest, guiltiest, self-indulgently self-loathingest male gaze cha (sad) boy ever did see
1. "YOU TAKE CARE NOW" - Ann Marie Fleming - GREATEST SHORT FILM EVER!!! PEEP IT!!! DIE!!!
Trill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - Stephen Herek
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover - Greenaway
Noce Blanche - Brisseau
Kiki's Delivery Service - Miyazaki
Do the Right Thing - Lee
Drugstore Cowboy - Van Sant
Leningrad Cowboys Go America - Kaurismaki
"Kitchen Sink" - Alison Maclean
Trill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - Stephen Herek
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover - Greenaway
Noce Blanche - Brisseau
Kiki's Delivery Service - Miyazaki
Do the Right Thing - Lee
Drugstore Cowboy - Van Sant
Leningrad Cowboys Go America - Kaurismaki
"Kitchen Sink" - Alison Maclean
it's only me and the boy erika voting for Bill & Ted's... the dope, yall aint doing it right!
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Lencho of the Apes
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Twin Peaks would have been another tough decision, but imdb spares us that one, too, listing it as having been broadcast in 1990 and 1991.
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i really wanna watch route one usa but i dunno if i have time
Don't forget to save some time to watch Ghosts Can't Do It, the Bo Derek movie Dennis used to love back on Mubi. It's got Donald Trump in it!
On second thought it might be better to give that one a pass...
On second thought it might be better to give that one a pass...
ha, i posted this back in october back at our old home:
flip wrote: i've seen saving christmas, superbabies: baby geniuses 2, and loose change, and ghosts can't do it is very probably the worst thing i have ever seen in my life. it even has a donald trump cameo.
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In Which Annie Gives It Those Ones - Pradip Krishen
TV movie, visually characterless, but it's a sweet and good-natured little hangout movie/time capsule. Grad-school hippies, 1974! Presented with none of the "we blew it" defeatism that colors most movies about that era; everyone's still idealistic and optimismy. Closest-in-tone western movie I can think of is Girlfriends.
TV movie, visually characterless, but it's a sweet and good-natured little hangout movie/time capsule. Grad-school hippies, 1974! Presented with none of the "we blew it" defeatism that colors most movies about that era; everyone's still idealistic and optimismy. Closest-in-tone western movie I can think of is Girlfriends.
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^fwiw there's a pretty good version on youtube, no subs but i've heard that enough of the language is in english that it would be worth missing a few words not to suffer through that degraded vhs rip...
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