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Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:40 pm
by Lencho of the Apes
rischka wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:37 pm taibbi got metoo'd awhile ago and is now an anti-cancel culture warrior. he was a good writer. i read RS for years

now he defends tucker carlson. he's a contrarian like greenwald. all voices welcome ofc! but i hate to see these guys defending fascists

and yes i get that they don't believe they ARE fascists and that russiagate was fake news etc. blah blah blah. they see IDPOL as the enemy

and scoffed at the idea that russia would invade ukraine etc. to my mind they are part of the red/brown alliance

edit: also the hunter's laptop story and this is why kanafani and i fought. we'll be hearing much more about that if GOP takes the house
I didnt know about Taibbi being metoo'd. Shame. Maybe I'll go look up the details.

"Defends"? I bet if you look at it, his defense is going to be a lot more nuanced than you imagine.

How was Russiagate not a hoax? It's been established in court that Team Clinton sent their catspaw to deposit the Steele Dossier with the FBI so they could just happen along a day later and tweet out their alarming discovery... Maddow et al kept their audience on the edge of their seats for two years, and they ultimately found... what? Nothing, basically. Facebook ads. Forgive me if I scoff, but, honestly, did any other concrete manipulations come out of that shitstorm of speculation and fantasy? Also, Bill Clinton did as much or more in the Russian elections of (1992?).

Idpol can be an enemy; when a right-wing D like Kamala Harris gets a smiley face because of her minority status, or when it becomes possible to silence any dissent directed toward a woman and/or POC by calling the speaker racist or sexist, those are not developments I value. And I'll concede that they're not careful to distinguish that from the basic tenet that all groups should be treated equally; the rhetoric they use often seems to throw the baby out with the bathwater. To that extent, I agree with you.

There is no red/brown alliance, that's nothing more than a smear to discredit the so-called red faction.

And Biden's laptop? If he/they said "Maybe the laptop is fake news; if so, they're entitled to debunk it, but suppressing stories that inconvenience the regime is a fascist strategy" then I agree with them. And if they said anything more than that, you'll have to show me, because I don't remember. For being such an invented non-story, it sure seems to have legs... like those videos of Hunter's crack sessions that were leaked over a year later... But Biden's laptop isn't a hill I would choose to die on.

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:56 pm
by rischka
there are MAGAcommunists on twitter now, i can't really think of anything more red/brown alliance than that

and why did trump's campaign have so many contacts with russians? why did they know about the stolen emails? why did they meet at trump tower to discuss 'russian adoptions'? why did trump fire comey? why was manafort working for the trump campaign for free? why was he showing election data to russian agents? there was a boatload of evidence come on. but let's not fight about this again :) you can see it all in the senate intelligence committee's report - a bipartisan effort

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume5.pdf

the laptop story was suppressed because it couldn't be corroborated. rudy giuliani had the only copy and wouldn't show it to anyone besides the tabloid new york post. it can never be used as evidence in court because chain of custody cannot be established, enabling them to make all kinds of wild claims about it

personally i don't think having a drug addicted son should've kept biden from being elected. it didn't stop trump from being elected

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:04 pm
by ---
magacommunism = "im all for abolishing capitalism, but do we really have to throw out racism and misogyny along with it??"

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:05 pm
by rischka
exactly :lol: we hate idpol!


also trump was OBVIOUSLY guilty of obstruction of justice but wasn't charged because of barr's opinion that presidents can't commit a crime. what was he hiding ...

you've inspired me to start watching russia: trauma zone. 7 hours. heading in... a lot of the tankies on kg say this will explain why putin had to invade ukraine.

i'm dubious but will try keep any open mind. this is how i relax from election stress :p

i haven't had sympathy for putin since this happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster

probably my early Navy training :? i will NEVER forget this horrific event

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:06 pm
by pabs

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:00 pm
by rischka

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:45 am
by pabs
NBC marks it as too early to call, but Kari Lake is behind in AZ. Thank fuckin god.

And that dickhead dumb as a bag of rocks fucken idiot clown Boebert is out. Yayy!! I'm embarrassed for America that she even won a single vote.

Fetterman won his Senate seat, woohoo!

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:29 am
by rischka
large herd of javalina woke me up

i hope warnock wins, that it's so close is a disgrace

but i think we did all right in an uphill battle - lake and finchem are both behind

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/stat ... 5hZTwHETgw

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:37 am
by rischka

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:21 am
by pabs
rischka wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:29 am
i hope warnock wins, that it's so close is a disgrace
Even ONE vote for Walker is a disgrace!! What a fucked up general population you have. Complete retards.

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:34 am
by rischka
that's...not necessary

i do find walker's candidacy to be the most cynical of this round. they couldn't find anyone more famous probably

the man won a heisman trophy. god and football will save america~!

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:36 am
by rischka
https://twitter.com/keithedwards/status ... h70-H5KOyw

they did so badly in many precincts it will be hard to churn up election denialism

GA may go to a recount tho

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/15902 ... h70-H5KOyw

https://twitter.com/ryanmatsumoto1/stat ... h70-H5KOyw

excellent news here. this would be a big win for democracy. kari lake's race has narrowed a LOT but she's never been in the lead

currently hobbs 50.1 - lake 49.1 :shock:

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:54 am
by pabs
Sorry, r. I'm just really pissed off about what happened to America in the last 30 years.

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:55 am
by rischka
how do you think we feel lol

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:55 pm
by rischka
trump is reportedly screaming at people :lol:


https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/15903 ... BxDeGo9WDg

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:00 pm
by rischka
AZ SoS and Gov races are VERY tight but blake masters went down in flames.

Rs projected to take the house - with a margin of one seat.

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:43 pm
by Silga
It's a shame that Wisconsin's Senate seat went to GOP. I kind of expected that Dems might win there.

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:26 pm
by rischka
scary kari is done 12,000 votes 🤞🤞🤞 oath keeper mark finchem is down 80,000 w 66% reporting :dope:

GOP screwed themselves with dobbs. WOMEN SAVED YOUR ASS AGAIN DEMS

also should give trump some credit for his terrible picks :lol:

walker and warnock will head to a runoff :cowboy:

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:39 pm
by rischka
i'm disappointed JD vance won but OZ losing made up for it :lol:


https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/ ... ixIC3Gievg

they're not idiots; it's a (racist) cult. i hope katie hobbs is in a secure location

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:54 am
by rischka
i think we did really well america! no major incidents and so far no one is claiming fraud even with trump's incitement. the remaining vote in AZ is pima and maricopa counties looking good for capt kelly and katie hobbs. whew :drinking:

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:53 pm
by nrh
embarrassing that democrats lost so many house seats in ny; the state is less liberal than a lot of people imagine it to be (which is how you get our cop and solitary confinement loving democratic mayor), but a combination of poorly thought out campaigns and the fact that there seems to be a genuine desire to vote for a "moderate" republican seems to have done the trick.

and i do wonder when democrats will figure out a counter to the "soft on crime attack;' republicans use it pretty much every time and the only strategy seems to be panicking and spending millions of dollars on "i love cops too!" ads a few weeks before election. fetterman's standing his ground and trying to explain his reformist policies doesn't seem to have hurt him...

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:20 pm
by rischka
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white people :?

the youth vote really turned up for us across the country and i hope we can keep them engaged by not nominating a senior citizen next time. what about gretchen whitmer? she seems cool 8-) after trump is safely locked up of course. there's a hurricane at mar a lago, maybe he'll be swept away and save us the trouble. i HOPE AZ will hurry up the vote count before shit gets out of hand!! i expect we'll have recounts either way. kari's on fox explaining how katie hobbs isn't winning (she's been ahead the entire race) but GOP head of election board is slow rolling results in her favor. he's probably a never-trumper :lol:

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:27 pm
by rischka
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/statu ... ePnHIa33Ag

this is huge really. come on katie hobbs :soapbox: sorry/not sorry for corny patriotism :cowboy:

https://twitter.com/brent_peabody/statu ... ePnHIa33Ag

you're right about NY it may have cost us the house and a real blue wave (which tbf no one thought remotely possible!)

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:44 pm
by rischka
if you think the count is taking a long time now...
Lake repeated her pledge to immediately call lawmakers into special session upon being sworn in to make massive changes to Arizona election laws. She wants to significantly reduce early and mail voting, options chosen by at least 8 in 10 Arizona voters, and to count all ballots by hand, which election administrators say would be extremely time consuming.

Ballots can have dozens of races on them. Maricopa County has more than 50 judges on the ballot, on top of state and local races and 10 ballot measures.
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm ... 9cdcbd3ecc

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:53 pm
by rischka

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:15 pm
by rischka

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:26 pm
by rischka
katie hobbs holding onto a slender lead :shock: they're saying we won't know til next week. this is nervewracking

blake masters is done - it hasn't been called yet but he's down 6 pts. expecting a comeback for cortez-masto in nevada and if she pulls that off we'll control the senate + warnock in january runoff which he should win no problem :pirates: i'm still angry he has to do this, it's demeaning but he seems upbeat. the money is already flowing in

i know they're looking to de santis in 2024 now but i just can't see this guy doing well on a national stage. don't say gay?? come on, it's the 21st century

plus i don't believe anyone can pull trump's cult - they'll just stay home 8-) yesterday trump claimed on 'truth' social that he fixed the race for de santis in 2018!!

https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/159 ... LKwo88d9aQ

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:27 am
by pabs
Watch Glenn Kirschner's frustration at the current hierarchy in Washington, despite the very clear message the hierarchy's getting from Democratic voters at the ballot boxes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVJpUa9OFuk

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:18 pm
by rischka
Whatever, it's gonna be fun to watch Trump and DeSantis destroy each other. If the party nominates someone else, Trump will run anyway LOL

Re: Everything is Political

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:46 pm
by sally
why does it take so long to count the votes? like, virtually every other country can do it in a day, what's different here?