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Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:19 pm
by Lencho of the Apes
rischka wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:46 am how stoned
Probably less stoned than the Blonde Cobra people.

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:31 pm
by greennui
The Baby Carriage (Bo Widerberg)

'63 was one hell of a year for Widerberg. He was a writer that recently had gained prominence with his Cahiers du Cinema style film criticism, writing about the (according to him) sorry state of Swedish cinema, throwing the biggest shade at Bergman and his preoccupation with god in perhaps the most secular country in the world. "What Bergman exports abroad consists of mystic light and undisguised exoticism . . . [he] reinforces the most trivial myths about Sweden and the Swedes.” - BW...they would remain arch-enemies for the rest of their careers. Widerberg wanted a Swedish cinema that was more concerned with 'earthly' matters and decided to take matters into his own hands and released two films in 1963, The Baby Carriage (his debut) and Raven's End (the all-time classic).

Baby Carriage was a decent enough debut feature, a social realistic pregancy drama with Nouvelle Vague flourishes. It did feel like it was wearing it's influences on it's sleeve a tad too much at times though. It had some ace cinematography by Jan Troell (always enjoyed him more as DP than a director) and a neat, stoic lead performance by Inger Taube.

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Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:20 pm
by Evelyn Library P.I.
greennui wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:31 pm '63 was one hell of a year for Widerberg. He was a writer that recently had gained prominence with his Cahiers du Cinema style film criticism, writing about the (according to him) sorry state of Swedish cinema, throwing the biggest shade at Bergman and his preoccupation with god in perhaps the most secular country in the world. "What Bergman exports abroad consists of mystic light and undisguised exoticism . . . [he] reinforces the most trivial myths about Sweden and the Swedes.” - BW...they would remain arch-enemies for the rest of their careers. Widerberg wanted a Swedish cinema that was more concerned with 'earthly' matters and decided to take matters into his own hands and released two films in 1963, The Baby Carriage (his debut) and Raven's End (the all-time classic).
Very interesting, thanks! I didn't know Widerberg was a critic first.

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:01 pm
by greennui
Evelyn Library P.I. wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:20 pm
greennui wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:31 pm '63 was one hell of a year for Widerberg. He was a writer that recently had gained prominence with his Cahiers du Cinema style film criticism, writing about the (according to him) sorry state of Swedish cinema, throwing the biggest shade at Bergman and his preoccupation with god in perhaps the most secular country in the world. "What Bergman exports abroad consists of mystic light and undisguised exoticism . . . [he] reinforces the most trivial myths about Sweden and the Swedes.” - BW...they would remain arch-enemies for the rest of their careers. Widerberg wanted a Swedish cinema that was more concerned with 'earthly' matters and decided to take matters into his own hands and released two films in 1963, The Baby Carriage (his debut) and Raven's End (the all-time classic).
Very interesting, thanks! I didn't know Widerberg was a critic first.
Well, he was an author initially and wrote film criticism on the side. He had written several novels throughout the 50's but after becoming a director he never wrote another book and even lost more and more interest in writing screenplays as time went on, preferring improvisation and spontaneity. The screenplay for Elvira Madigan famously had one page with just "pick raspberries".

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:13 pm
by greennui
Finalist. :cowboy:

1. The Fire Within (Louis Malle)

Bay of Angels (Jacques Demy)
Raven’s End (Bo Widerberg)
The Servant (Joseph Losey)
Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger)
Charade (Stanley Donen)
Muriel, or the Time of Return (Alain Resnais)
Young Aphrodites (Nikos Koundouros)
Flaming Creatures (Jack Smith)
Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman)
The Baby Carriage (Bo Widerberg)
Crisis: Behind a Presidential Commitment (Robert Drew)
Jason and the Argonauts (Don Chaffey)
Donovan’s Reef (John Ford)
This Sporting Life (Lindsay Anderson)
The War Game (Mai Zetterling)
Méditerranée (Jean-Daniel Pollet/Volker Schlöndorff)
Mothlight (Stan Brakhage)
Blow Job (Andy Warhol)
Valparaiso (Joris Ivens)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:18 pm
by Silga
Final list:

1. Hud (Martin Ritt)

Charade (Stanley Donen)
From Russia with Love (Terence Young)
The Great Escape (John Sturges)
The Birds (Alfred Hitchcock)
The List of Adrian Messenger (John Huston)
The Pink Panther (Blake Edwards)
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (Stanley Kramer)
Gunfight at Comanche Creek (Frank McDonald)
Murder at the Gallop (George Pollock)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:20 pm
by Evelyn Library P.I.
1. La frusta e il corpo / The Whip and the Body (Mario Bava)
Murder at the Gallop (George Pollock)
Bye Bye Birdie (George Sidney)
Blood Feast (Herschell Gordon Lewis)
Mothlight (Stan Brakhage)
Borom sarret / The Wagoner (Ousmane Sembène)
Showdown (R.G. Springsteen)
X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes (Roger Corman)
Charade (Stanley Donen)
La ragazza che sapeva troppo / The Girl Who Knew Too Much (Mario Bava)
Blow Job (Andy Warhol)
The Nutty Professor (Jerry Lewis)
Kiss (Andy Warhol)
Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger)
The Old Dark House (William Castle)
Detective Bureau 2-3: Go to Hell, Bastards! (Seijun Suzuki)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:50 am
by rischka
well. raven's end is certainly a much different swedish cinema from bergman's. i cried 😭

will make a list manana

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:33 am
by ofrene
The House Is Black

High and Low
Winter Light
The Fiances
The Big City
The Leopard
8 1/2
The Birds
Le Joli Mai
Shock Corridor
Donovan's Reef
The Servant
Contempt
The Organizer
The Whip and the Body
Burying Old Alive
A Woman's Life
The Insect Woman
Charade
Acto da Primavera

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:51 am
by ...
Probably my final list, tough to leave so many good movies off though, so I might change something...

Bandini (Bimal Roy)
I fidazati (Ermanno Olmi)
Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard
The Big City (Satyajit Ray)
The Leopard (Luchino Visconti)
The Bakery Girl of Monceau (Eric Rohmer)
X: The Man with X-Ray Eyes (Roger Corman)
The Sun in a Net (Stefan Uher)
The Organizer (Mario Monicelli)
Burying Old Alive (Kim Ki-young)

Muriel, or the Time of Return (Alain Resnais)
An Actor's Revenge (Kon Ichikawa)
The Birds (Alfred Hitchcock)
Thirteen Assassins (Eiichi Kudo)
Valparaiso (Joris Ivens)
Encounter in Space (Otar Koberidze, Mikhail Karzhukov)
Detective Bureau 2-3: Go to Hell, Bastards! (Seijun Suzuki)
For the Ones to Come (Pierre Perrault, Michel Brault)
Thirteen Frightened Girls (William Castle)
Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors (Aleksandr Rou)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:34 am
by Evelyn Library P.I.
Showdown (R.G. Springsteen, Universal-International)

The lone '63 viewing I could manage for the poll, and also given pride of place as my final viewing of 2020 :) ! It was the '63 I've most wanted to see, on Flip's recommendation. A black-and-white Audie Murphy western directed by Subject for Further Research R.G. Springsteen. I liked this one a lot — the plot is a grand tour of different western trope locales, and the cosy black-and-white images by Springsteen are eye-catching and memorable. A fine way to end my year in viewing!

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Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:00 pm
by greennui
rischka wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:50 am well. raven's end is certainly a much different swedish cinema from bergman's. i cried 😭

will make a list manana
Bergman made some beautiful films but that one...the natural light, the diegtic sounds. Truly slaps.

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:06 pm
by rischka
yeah bergman made some beautiful chilly films behind glass. this seems a lot more human. will post my list momentarily

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:34 pm
by rischka
the love eterne - han hsiang li

the elegant life of mr everyman - okamoto
donovan's reef - ford
i fidanzati - olmi
bay of angels - demy
i compagni - monicelli
muriel ou le temps d'un retour - resnais
the whistle stop - barnet
the cool world - clarke
a legend or was it? - kinoshita
raven's end - widerberg
x - the man with x-ray eyes - corman
acto de primavera - oliveira
the desolate beach - sinha
the birds - hitch
the third shadow - inoue
an actor's revenge - ichikawa
red lanterns - georgiadis
joseph kilian - juracek/schmidt
a valparaiso - ivens

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:56 am
by mesnalty
Final list:

1. High and Low (Kurosawa)

The Silence (Bergman)
Mothlight (Brakhage)
Charade (Donen)
The Pink Panther (Edwards)
The House Is Black (Farrokhzad)
Donovan's Reef (Ford)
Shock Corridor (Fuller)
Contempt (Godard)
An Actor's Revenge (Ichikawa)
The Nutty Professor (Lewis)
The Love Eterne (Li)
The Servant (Losey)
Le Joli Mai (Marker and Lhomme)
Passenger (Munk and Lesiewicz)
The Fiances (Olmi)
Mediterranee (Pollet and Schlondorff)
The Big City (Ray)
Muriel (Resnais)
Hud (Ritt)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:08 am
by kanafani
The House Is Black (Forugh Farrokhzad, 1963)

Muriel, or the Time of Return (Alain Resnais, 1963)
Donovan's Reef (John Ford, 1963)
Valparaiso (Joris Ivens, 1963)
An Actor's Revenge (Kon Ichikawa, 1963)
Bandini (Bimal Roy, 1963)
The Green Years (Paulo Rocha, 1963)
Shock Corridor (Samuel Fuller, 1963)
The Big City (Satyajit Ray, 1963)
Flaming Creatures (Jack Smith, 1963)
The Elegant Life of Mr. Everyman (Kihachi Okamoto, 1963)
The Fiancés (Ermanno Olmi, 1963)
The Love Eterne (Li Han-Hsiang, 1963)
The Desolate Beach (Tapan Sinha, 1963
Machorka-Muff (Jean-Marie Straub, Danièle Huillet)
Bad Company (Jean Eustache, 1963)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:14 am
by karl
Happy New Year, champers.

The Big City

High and Low
Donovan's Reef
Contempt
The House Is Black
Silence (Kazimierz Kutz)
How to Be Loved (Wojciech Has)
A Legend or Was It?
The Fire Within
Winter Light
Transport from Paradise (Zbyněk Brynych)
Something Different (Věra Chytilová)
Whistle Stop (Boris Barnet)
Heat (Larisa Shepitko)
Vertigo (Karel Kachyňa)
Mother (Shindo Kaneto)
The Desolate Beach (Tapan Sinha)
Introduction to Life (Igor Talankin)
The Road (Ana Mariscal)
Chair de Poule (Julien Duvivier)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:58 pm
by Lencho of the Apes
Mine!

Herzog Blaubarts Burg - Michael Powell

Accattone - Pasolini
The Birds - Hitchcock
Black Sabbath - Bava
Blonde Cobra - Ken Jacobs
Bronze Something - Kinugasa
Demon - Brunello Rondi
Hands Over The City - Rosi
The Hainting - Robert Wise
The Insect Woman - Imamura
Ladybug Ladybug - Frank Perry
Like Two Drops Of Water - Fons Rademakers
Mahanagar - Satjayit Ray
Paloma Herida - Emilio Fernandez
Rice- Shin Sang
Scorpio Rising
Shock Corridor - Fuller
Las Troyanas - Sergio Vejar
Vienos Dienos Kronika
X - The Man With The X-Ray Eyes - Corman

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:01 pm
by Lencho of the Apes
The time period defining the thing is drawing to an end, and with it the thing itself. It will abandon its thingness and become only the memory of a thing in about two hours.

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:14 pm
by MrCarmady
Wanted to squeeze another one but here it is:

The Fire Within (Louis Malle)
Charade (Stanley Donen)
The Servant (Joseph Losey)
High and Low (Akira Kurosawa)
From Russia with Love (Terence Young)
Passenger (Andrzej Munk)
Raven's End (Bo Widerberg)
Suzanne's Career (Éric Rohmer)
Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard)
Shock Corridor (Sam Fuller)
The Bakery Girl of Monceau (Éric Rohmer) sh
Black Sabbath (Mario Bava)
Billy Liar (John Schlesinger)
An Actor's Revenge (Kon Ichikawa)
8 1/2 (Federico Fellini)
Le Joli Mai (Chris Marker)
The Leopard (Luchino Visconti)
Les Carabiniers (Jean-Luc Godard)
The Critic (Ernest Pintoff) sh
The Pink Panther (Blake Edwards)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:44 pm
by brian d
something like this:

bamboo doll of echizen (yoshimura)
rite of spring (de oliveira)
the desolate beach (sinha)
los tarantos (rovira beleta)
la ricotta (pasolini)
life goes on (fernán gómez)
the golden fern (weiss)
the war game (zetterling)
joseph kilian (juraček, schmidt)
the house is black (farrokhzad)
the immortal one (robbe-grillet)
like two drops of water (rademakers)
something different (chytilová)
borom sarret (sembène)
the red lanterns
muriel (resnais)
el buen amor (regueiro)
les abysses (papatakis)
dry summer (erksan)
young aphrodites (koundouros)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:19 pm
by Lencho of the Apes
Okay, time for me to put the betel in the kettle.

Koheu and stuff.

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:26 pm
by Lonnie
Passenger (Munk/Lesiewicz)
The Red Lanterns (Georgiadis)
The Insect Woman (Imamura)
The Servant (Joseph Losey)
The Leopard (Luchino Visconti)
The Wagoner/Borom Sarret (Sembene)
Youth of the Beast (Suzuki)
Hud (Ritt)
This Sporting Life (Anderson)
The Bakery Girl of Monceau (Eric Rohmer)
High and Low (Akira Kurosawa)
The Fire Within (Louis Malle)
Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:35 am
by Lencho of the Apes
Ta-daa!

1
High and Low (Akira Kurosawa)

2
8 1/2 (Federico Fellini)

3
The Birds - Hitchcock

4
Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard)
The Servant (Joseph Losey)

6
Charade (Stanley Donen)
Mahanagar - Satjayit Ray

8
The Leopard (Luchino Visconti)
Winter Light

10
The Fiancés (Ermanno Olmi, 1963)
The Fire Within (Louis Malle)
The Silence (Ingmar Bergman)

13
Donovan's Reef (John Ford, 1963)

14
The House Is Black
Muriel, or the Time of Return (Alain Resnais, 1963)

16
An Actor's Revenge (Ichikawa)
The Love Eterne (Li Han-Hsiang, 1963)
Mothlight (Stan Brakhage)
The Pink Panther (Blake Edwards)
Scorpio Rising
Shock Corridor - Fuller

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Hands Over The City - Rosi
Hud (Martin Ritt)
Le Joli Mai (Chris Marker)
joseph kilian (juraček, schmidt)
The Nutty Professor (Jerry Lewis)
Passenger (Andrzej Munk)
Suzanne's Career (Eric Rohmer)
Valparaiso (Joris Ivens, 1963)

30
The Bakery Girl of Monceau (Éric Rohmer)
Bandini (Bimal Roy, 1963)
Black Sabbath - Bava
The Organizer (Mario Monicelli)
The Elegant Life of Mr. Everyman (Kihachi Okamoto, 1963)
The Great Escape (Sturges)
The Hainting - Robert Wise
L'immortelle (1963, Alain Robbes-Grillet)
Raven's End (Bo Widerberg)
This Sporting Life (Lindsay Anderson)
X - The Man With The X-Ray Eyes - Corman

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Bay of Angels (Jacques Demy)
Billy Liar (John Schlesinger)
The Desolate Beach (Tapan Sinha )
Lord of the Flies (Brook)
the red lanterns
rite of spring (de oliveira)
The Executioner (Berlanga)
Barren Lives — N. Pereira Dos Santos
La frusta e il corpo / The Whip and the Body (Mario Bava)
Whistle Stop (Boris Barnet)
A Woman's Life (Naruse)
Young Aphrodites (Nikos Koundouros)
Yaju no seishun / Youth of the Beast (1963, Seijun Suzuki)

54- 63
Blow Job (Andy Warhol)
Borom sarret / The Wagoner (Ousmane Sembène)
Burying Old Alive (Kim Ki-young)
Bye Bye Birdie (Sidney)
From Russia with Love (Terence Young)
Judex (1963, Georges Franju)
A Legend or Was It?
Showdown (R.G. Springsteen, Universal-International)
Something Different (Věra Chytilová)
Susuz Yaz (Dry Summer)

Re: 1963 poll

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:49 pm
by MrCarmady