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twodeadmagpies wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:01 pm i just watched giraffe (2019) on mubi. struggle with modern film festival-bait movies now, all this ponderous 'meaning' just means the camera is constipated. so maybe i was too bored by the empty 'delicacy' to get it, but why is it called giraffe?

thoxans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pm gus van sant presumably saw a bela tarr movie and made elephant back in 2003. tbh i really liked elephant (in fact, in an act of provocation, i picked it as the number one film of the year, when i was the arts and entertainment editor for my high school newspaper whooppeeee; gallo's the brown bunny was second), but still don't know what the title refers to, other than 'the elephant in the room,' which would be stupid, if that was the case. all this is to say, i agree. slow cinema aesthetic for prepackaged film festival products has been used ad nauseam ad infinitum at this point. i think this is why papa jerry doesn't watch movies anymore. just a general malaise towards lazy filmmaking hidden behind a veneer of trendy aesthetics that helps limit the awareness of an actual lack of talent. i could be totes wrong about the film you're referring to though, cuz i haven't even heard of it, let alone seen it...

thoxans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pm slow cinema aesthetic for prepackaged film festival products has been used ad nauseam ad infinitum at this point. i think this is why papa jerry doesn't watch movies anymore. just a general malaise towards lazy filmmaking hidden behind a veneer of trendy aesthetics that helps limit the awareness of an actual lack of talent.

nrh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:47 pmthe alan clarke movie of the same name

Holymanm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:08 amperfect description of breaking bad

thoxans wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:33 ammeant to edit my last post, not quote it, but either way i've boosted my post count, so yeehaw, rischka, here i come

thoxans wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:33 am i'm pretty sure i could kick gus van sant's ass in golf

thoxans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pm gus van sant presumably saw a bela tarr movie and made elephant back in 2003. tbh i really liked elephant (in fact, in an act of provocation, i picked it as the number one film of the year, when i was the arts and entertainment editor for my high school newspaper whooppeeee; gallo's the brown bunny was second), but still don't know what the title refers to, other than 'the elephant in the room,' which would be stupid, if that was the case. all this is to say, i agree. slow cinema aesthetic for prepackaged film festival products has been used ad nauseam ad infinitum at this point. i think this is why papa jerry doesn't watch movies anymore. just a general malaise towards lazy filmmaking hidden behind a veneer of trendy aesthetics that helps limit the awareness of an actual lack of talent. i could be totes wrong about the film you're referring to though, cuz i haven't even heard of it, let alone seen it...

thoxans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pm gus van sant presumably saw a bela tarr movie and made elephant back in 2003.

The film's style was largely inspired by the work of Hungarian director Bela Tarr, namely its use of extended scenes playing out in uncut master shots. There are a few direct visual quotations from Tarr's Satantango such as a shot following the two protagonists while tumbleweeds blow around them that mimics a shot in Tarr's film where two men walk through a town as a windstorm blows around leaves and trash.

Besides the work of Bela Tarr, the video game Tomb Raider was cited as an influence on the style of the film. Van Sant had mentioned that he hadn't had much experience with video games and was struck by the fact that the lack of the ability to cut away from the action in video games meant having to stay with the characters during travel that would normally be glossed over in films. In an interview with Filmmaker Magazine Van Sant stated "In some ways, Gerry is Béla Tarr fused with Tomb Raider!"

twodeadmagpies wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:52 pm on the other hand, assayas' non-fiction was very enjoyable. i could watch funny french films like that all the time. he should do comedy more often. also my memory is terrible because i'm surehe was referencing a scene from another film at one point but i just cannot think what it was. gah

Speaking of Harun Farocki, his voice has flowed through your work forever. Where is Farocki in “Transit”?

I must say that I only realized this years after his death: I was together with his widow at the premiere [of “Transit” in Berlin], and we both started crying because we realized the main character is him. Harun was half-Indian, he’s born in Czechoslovakia, his father was a Nazi or not a Nazi, nobody knows really. He was always around, he was always looking, he was always through the world, and he knows that you can find yourself by yourself. The main character in the book by Anna Seghers, he’s telling a story, he had lost everything, but he can talk about this loss, so he has an identity. I’ve seen Harun every time I’ve read this book.

How did you first come across the book?


Harun passed it to me because I made bad jokes about Anna Seghers. I hadn’t read a line of hers, but we were both together in a car on a way to a football match—he was a left defender and I’m a right offender on the same team, Tasmania Berlin is the name—and I make jokes about Anna Seghers because other people made jokes about Anna Seghers and I copied them. He stopped the car and asked me if I was crazy, and said she was one of the best German-language novelists ever. He passed me “Transit” and other books in the same weekend, and I must say he was right.