1987 Poll 2.0

[greennui]

Pick your favourite movies of 1987 (according to IMDB), up to 20 films.

20-film ballots must be ranked as follows (with point totals assigned):
Five tiers 5-4-3-2-1
Four tiers 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5
Three tiers 5-3-1
Two tiers 4-2
One tier (aka unranked) 3

Ballot totals that aren't divisible by the number of tiers must be unranked. So 1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 film ballots are unranked.

[Silga]

[provisional list deleted]

[greennui]

Ice Palace 1987 Is-slottet Directed by Per Blom
Road 1987 Directed by Alan Clarke
Withnail & I 1987 Directed by Bruce Robinson
Rouge 1987 胭脂扣 Directed by Stanley Kwan
Morning Patrol 1987 Πρωινή Περίπολος Directed by Nikos Nikolaidis
Pica Pica 1987 Directed by Mikael Kristersson
Maurice 1987 Directed by James Ivory
The Flying Luna Clipper 1987 ザ・フライング・ルナクリッパー Directed by Ikko Ohno
Prince of Darkness 1987 Directed by John Carpenter
Landscape (for Manon) 1987 Directed by Peter Hutton

The Short & Curlies 1987 Directed by Mike Leigh
Art of Memory 1987 Directed by Woody Vasulka
Neo Tokyo 1987 迷宮物語 Directed by Rintaro, Yoshiaki Kawajiri …
Gandahar 1987 Directed by René Laloux
Sent om hösten 1987 Directed by Ulf von Strauss
White of the Eye 1987 Directed by Donald Cammell
China Girl 1987 Directed by Abel Ferrara
The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On 1987 ゆきゆきて、神軍 Directed by Kazuo Hara
Law of Desire 1987 La ley del deseo Directed by Pedro Almodóvar
Landscape 1987 Landskap Directed by Claes Söderquist
Boyfriends and Girlfriends 1987 L'Ami de mon amie Directed by Éric Rohmer

[Lencho of the Apes]

Prelim:

The Blind Owl - Ruiz
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On - Hara
Evil Dead 2 - Raimi
The Red Spectacles - Oshii
Walker - Cox

Anantaram - Gopalakrishnan
Prince Of Darkness - Carpenter
A Return To Salem's Lot - Cohen
Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story - Haynes
Wings Of Desire - Wenders

China Girl - Ferrari
Lo Que Importa Es Vivir - Alcoriza
Thaniyarvarthanam - Malayil
Thoovanathumbikal - Padmarajan
Where Is The Friend's House - Kiarostami

Birds Of Prey - Cardona Jr
Destino Clandestino - Hermosillo
King Lear - Godard
Rouge - Kwan
Wedding In Galilee - Khliefi

[flip]

i feel like i could have put any of twenty different films in the bottom tiers, but the top couple are pretty clearcut for me:

Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle (Eric Rohmer)
Monologue (Adoor Gopalakrishnan)
Nayakan (Mani Ratnam)
Throw Momma From the Train (Danny DeVito)

Matewan (John Sayles)
The Key (Ebrahim Forouzesh)
Blind Date (Blake Edwards)
Une Flamme dans mon Coeur (Alain Tanner)

The Tenants (Dariush Mehrjui)
Where Is the Friend's Home? (Abbas Kiarostami)
Landscape Suicide (James Benning)
Ishtar (Elaine May)

Tin Men (Barry Levinson)
The Black Tower (John Smith)
Dark Eyes (Nikita Mikhalkov)
Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick)

Outrageous Fortune (Arthur Hiller)
House of Games (David Mamet)
Extreme Prejudice (Walter Hill)
Yam Daabo (Idrissa Ouedraogo)

[rischka]

rouge - kwan
walker - cox
magino village: a tale - ogawa
assa - solovyov
prince of darkness - carpenter
the hidden - sholder
road - clarke
from the pole to the equator - gianikian/ricci lucchi
four adventures of reinette and mirabelle - rohmer
nayakan - ratnam
superstar: the karen carpenter story - haynes
matewan - sayles
white of the eye - cammell
a chinese ghost story - ching
a girl from hunan - xie
pica pica - kristersson
yeelen - cisse
extreme prejudice - hill
the red spectacles - oshii
where is the friend's home? - kiarostami

will watch the blind owl and china girl, maybe more

fyi: landscape suicide is '86 on imdb

[Monsieur Arkadin]

A Tale From The Past - Dhmiter Anagnosti
Where Is The Friend's House - Abbas Kiarostami
Matewan - John Sales
Mister Designer - Oleg Teptsov
Masques - Claude Chabrol

Prince of Darkness - John Carpenter
Ishtar - Elaine May
Walker - Alex Cox
Hellraiser - Clive Barker
Predator - John McTiernan

Extreme Prejudice - Walter Hill
Broadcast News - James L Brooks
Withnail and I - Bruce Robinson
Robocop - Paul Verhoeven
The Black Tower - John Smith

[DT.]

The Belly of an Architect (Peter Greenaway)
China Girl (Abel Ferrara)
Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick)
Opera (Dario Argento)
Shy People (Andrei Konchalovsky)
Woman Demon Human (Huang Shuqin)
Yeelen (Souleymanne Cisse)

Want to watch:

Epidemic (Lars von Trier)
Extreme Prejudice (Walter Hill)
Hope and Glory (John Boorman)
Ishtar (Elaine May)
Matewan (John Sayles)
Where is the Friend's Home? (Abbas Kiarostami)

[flip]

fyi: landscape suicide is '86 on imdb

interesting, it's 1987 almost everywhere else, and it used to be 1987 on imdb also.

i don't know how strictly we follow imdb dates these days... is anyone else going to vote for it in this poll? i'm always worried with films like this that if we leave it out of the 1987 poll, by the time the 1986 poll comes around, imdb will have fixed the date back to 1987 again, and we'll never have a chance to vote for it

[karl]

Everyone likes Eric Rohmer except me, it seems. I don't despise him. He's just... OK.

There are already a number of great movies I'm leaving off the provisional Top 20 below. Can no room be found, Karl, for Au Revoir les Enfants, Daughter of the Nile, Wish You Were Here, Zegen, The Surrogate Woman, Babette's Feast, Shy People, Dark Eyes, Blind Chance, Strawman, and Raising Arizona? Do you really intent to leave Raising Arizona off the list?

Come to think of it, I might post a very different list in a month, even if I don't see anything new.

Must re-watch Matewan.

One of the best films of 1987 I saw last night - Zaorski's banned-in-Poland Mother of Kings. But I'll go with the Palme d'or for the top slot.



Under the Sun of Satan (Pialat)
Mother of Kings (Zaorski)
The King of Children (Chen)
Where Is the Friend's Home? (Kiarostami)
Monologue (Gopalakrishnan)
Wedding in Galilee (Khleifi)
A Little Bit of Soul (Kenović)
A Tale from the Past (Anagnosti)
Woman Demon Human (Huang)
Garden of Desires (Khamraev)
The Last Judgment (Frank)
The Elephant Keeper (Yukol)
The Spy (Balayan)
Tomorrow Was the War (Kara)
A Girl from Hunan (Xie & U)
A Woman Alone (Holland)
A Forgotten Tune for the Flute (Ryazanov)
Housekeeping (Forsyth)
The Dead (Huston)

[ofrene]

Boyfriends and Girlfriends
Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle
Magino Village: A Tale
Where Is the Friend’s House?
The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On

there are at the top for sure, and have lots of movie on watchlist

[therouxxx]

Blind Date
Dirty Dancing
Empire of the Sun
King Lear
Moonstruck
Mr. India
Over the Top
Prince of Darkness
The Princess Bride
Raising Arizona
Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2
Thoovanathumbikal
The Untouchables
Wall Street
Where is the Friend's House?


Might be a good time to check out some blind spots (Tony Scott, Pialat, Argento)

[St. Gloede]

Der Himmel über Berlin / Wings of Desire (1987, Wim Wenders)
Withnail & I (1987, Bruce Robinson)
King Lear (1987, Jean-Luc Godard)
Au revoir, les Enfants (1987, Louis Malle)

L'ami de mon amie / Boyfriends and Girlfriends (1987, Éric Rohmer)
Les innocents (1987, André Téchiné)
Radio Days (1987, Woody Allen)
Yuki Yukite shingun / The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987, Kazuo Hara)

Angustia / Anguish (1987, Bigas Luna)
Cobra Verde (1987, Werner Herzog)
The Last Emperor (1987, Bernardo Bertolucci)
4 aventures de Reinette et Mirabelle (1987, Eric Rohmer)

Street Smart (1987, Jerry Schatzberg)
Soigne ta droite / Keep Your Right Up (1987, Jean-Luc Godard)
Empire of the Sun (1987, Steven Spielberg)
The Belly of an Architect (1987, Peter Greenaway)

Gospodin oformitel / Mister Designer (1987, Oleg Teptsov)
Full Metal Jacket (1987, Stanley Kubrick)
Die Schulung / Indoctrination (1987, Harun Farocki)
Out of Rosenheim (1987, Percy Adlon)

Honourable mentions:

Angel Heart (1987, Alan Parker)
King of the Children (1987, Kaige Chen)
The Dead (1987, John Huston)
Hachikô monogatari (1987, Seijirô Kôyama)
Przypadek / Blind Chance (1987, Krzysztof Kieslowski)
The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne (1987, Jack Clayton)
Crazy Love (1987, Dominique Deruddere)
Szörnyek évadja / Season of Monsters (1987, Miklós Jancsó)
Hermann mein Vater / Hermann, My Father (1987, Helma Sanders-Brahms)
Smrt krásných srncu / Forbidden Dreams (1987, Karel Kachyna)
Lev s bílou hrívou / Lion with a White Mane (1987, Jaromil Jires)
O Bobo / The Jester (1987, José Álvaro Morais)
Raising Arizona (1987, The Coen Brothers)

[MrCarmady]

When Harry Met Sally... (1987, Rob Reiner)

1989, no?

[MrCarmady]

Some of my all-time favourites in that top 5/10.

Przypadek / Blind Chance (Krzysztof Kieslowski)
Der Himmel über Berlin / Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders)
L'ami de mon amie / Boyfriends and Girlfriends (Éric Rohmer)
Broadcast News (James L. Brooks)
Assa (Sergei Solovyov)

4 aventures de Reinette et Mirabelle / Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle (Eric Rohmer)
Housekeeing (Bill Forsyth)
L'homme qui plantait des arbres / The Man Who Planted Trees (Frédéric Back)
RoboCop (Paul Verhoeven)
Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick)

The Living Daylights (John Glen)
Raising Arizona (Joel Coen)
Wish You Were Here (David Leland)
Your Face (Bill Plympton)
The Untouchables (Brian De Palma)

Opera (Dario Argento)
Can't Buy Me Love (Steve Rash)
White of the Eye (Donald Cammell)
Wall Street (Oliver Stone)
Moonstruck (Norman Jewison)

To watch:
Radio Days
Predator
Law of Desire
Under the Sun of Satan
The Dead
Eastern Condors
Hamlet Goes Business
Yeelen
Red Sorghum
Babette's Feast

[St. Gloede]

When Harry Met Sally... (1987, Rob Reiner)

1989, no?

Thanks. Removed.

[rischka]

the blind owl is on youtube w english subs. yw

[Lencho of the Apes]

the blind owl

A lot of other neat stuff alongside it on that 'channel' -- I think I'm really interested in new-to-me Brazilian director Ozualdo Candeias now. There's even a Moldovan (co) production called Palms. A little late for the COMO, but...

[rischka]

tbf it's a terrible copy - i found a better one for screenshots but this is the only eng subbed i've seen

very bloody for ruiz, practically a horror movie!

[nrh]

it's always good to have an excuse to post luc moullet's lovely text on blind owl - https://web.archive.org/web/20240715202 ... blind.html

[ofrene]

completely floored by Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story, perhaps Todd Hayne's best?

[Lencho of the Apes]

Morning Patrol was very nice. Thanks, Green.

[greennui]

My pleasure, should be up rizzy's street too.

[rischka]

found it on youtube, will definitely watch

[rischka]

I love that it's a christmas movie thx razzy

p.s. - oh no! the ending! and 80s hair cringe otherwise ♥

[rischka]

i try to make a list of the films featured - rebecca, the big sleep and gilda, the band wagon, the man with the golden arm, the big combo --

what was the one with mitchum? i love it when she calls them on the phone. both alarming and enjoyable

[oOgiandujaOo]

Super high quality year

Is-slottet / Ice Palace (Per Blom)
Alaya (Nathaniel Dorsky)
Конец Вечности / Konets vechnosti / The End of Eternity (Andrei Yermash)
Скорбное бесчувствие / Skorbnoye beschuvstviye / Mournful Unconcern / Anaesthesia Psychica Dolorosa / Heartbreak House (Aleksandr Sokurov)
Gandahar (René Laloux)
王立宇宙軍~オネアミスの翼 / Ôritsu uchûgun Oneamisu no tsubasa / Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise (Hiroyuki Yamaga)
The Belly of an Architect (Peter Greenaway)
RoboCop (Paul Verhoeven)
Mascara (Patrick Conrad)

Straight to Hell (Alex Cox)
Flowers in the Attic (Jeffrey Bloom)
Road (Alan Clarke)
Die Russen kommen (Heiner Carow)
Comment Wang-Fo fut sauvé / How Wang-fo was saved (René Laloux)
Ironweed (Hector Babenco)
White of The Eye (Donald Cammell)
Landscape (for Manon) (Peter B. Hutton)
Dal Polo all'Equatore / From The Pole To The Equator (Yervant Gianikian & Angela Ricci Lucchi)

[wba]

Great year!

Films seen: 90+

Final list

Jigoku no banken: akai megane "The Red Spectacles" (Mamoru Oshii, Japan)
Detskaya ploshchadka "Kids Playground" (Svetlana Proskurina, Soviet Union)
Yanagawa horiwari monogatari "The Story of Yanagawa's Canals" (Isao Takahata, Japan)
Lung foo fung wan "City on Fire" (Ringo Lam, Hong Kong)

Opera (Dario Argento, Italy)
Fatal Attraction (Adrian Lyne, USA)
Predator (John McTiernan, USA)
Dirty Dancing (Emile Ardolino, USA)

RoboCop (Paul Verhoeven, USA)
Over the Top (Menahem Golan, USA)
Ôritsu uchûgun Oneamisu no tsubasa "Wings of Honneamise" (Hiroyuki Yamaga, Japan)
Khane-ye doust kodjast? "Where Is the Friend's House?" (Abbas Kiarostami, Iran)

Who’s That Girl (James Foley, USA)
Black Widow (Bob Rafelson, USA)
The Sicilian (Michael Cimino, USA)
Sign 'o' the Times (Prince, USA)

Some Kind of Wonderful (Howard Deutch, USA)
Starlight Hotel (Sam Pillsbury, New Zealand)
Il ragazzo dal kimono d'oro "Karate Warrior" (Fabrizio De Angelis, Italy/Philippines)
The Black Tower (John Smith, UK)

[wba]

Bicycleran / The Cyclist (1987, Mohsen Makhmalbaf)

Hong gao liang / Red Sorghum (1987, Yimou Zhang)

You have two spots more now, as BICYCLERAN is 1989 on Imdb (great film, though!), and RED SORGHUM is 1988 (otherwise it would have easily made my list somewhere near the top - probably below OPERA at the 6th spot).

[St. Gloede]

Thanks for checking. Updated.