1911 Poll 2.0

[Holdrüholoheuho]

obviously, weird experiments not only on frogs but also on little brats were carried on in 1911!
and all of this madness then climaxed in the outburst of WW1 — until fairies (hand in hand with little brats (with a headache)) brought peace to the world again (viz STORY OF JEWEL CITY, William Nigh, 1915).

[Holdrüholoheuho]

wanted to celebrate my 1800th post with a few fairies photos...

In 1911, J.M. Barrie gave us one of the most iconic fairy tales of all time: Peter Pan. At a time when the world was obsessed with stories about these creatures, the novel became an instant success (not to mention the 1904 play where he created the characters). But who would've thought that it wouldn’t be Tinker Bell, the iconic fairy, the one who would make the world believe in them, but rather two young girls playing in their garden with an old camera? This is the story of the Cottingley Fairies, considered the biggest hoax of the twentieth century.

One boring summer day in 1917 in West Yorkshire, England, 16-year-old Elsie Wright and her cousin Frances Griffiths (9 years old) decided to take Elsie’s dad’s old camera and go play in their cottage’s garden. After learning how to use it and spending a couple of hours outside, they took the film to her dad, who gladly developed the photos. To Mr. Wright’s surprise, the only picture they spent hours taking was a portrait of Frances posing with some unexpected characters: four beautiful fairies.

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Eventually, the strange pictures of these two young girls ended up in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s hands. Besides being famous for his iconic character and classic Sherlock Holmes stories, Doyle was an open spiritualist who was always working on ways to prove the existence of creatures and spirits (real story). Astonished, Doyle devoted an article to the subject and published the photographs and, all of a sudden, the images were all over the country causing a huge controversy over their authenticity.

etc., etc. → https://culturacolectiva.com/photograph ... otos-story

The fairy photos that fooled a nation go up for auction: Shot by two young girls, the Cottingley Fairies photographs became one of the greatest hoaxes of the twentieth century and are now expected to fetch £70,000

unfortunately (fortunately???), one the aforementioned articles ↑ (not the one from DailyMail) contained a link to another article (on another tempting subject matter) called "Late Victorian Erotic Photographs Of Women Dancing With Skeletons" that diverted my fleeting attention elsewhere...

so, gonna celebrate being a tireless contributor to this forum not by post-victorian pics of fairies but by victorian pics of "girls dancing with death" (it might shed some more light on another subject/s from another thread/s, i.e. "early stag" in "stop the lists" or THE X-RAY FIEND (mixing courtship & radiology, 1897) in "George Albert Smith's poll")...

more explicit content → https://dangerousminds.net/comments/dan ... _skeletons
(btw. my fav is proly the one with a nude girl (laying on a sofa) inserting her toe in skeleton's eyehole)
(tho this one ↓ (not predominantly erotic, or am i missing something???) is not bad either)

[sally]

1. i live like 10 miles from cottingley, i've never been, i should go.
2. that's the second dailymail link i've seen on here lately, please don't link to it anymore, it's like linking to fox news but far more hateful.
3. re: GAS and the death girls i earlier last year or maybe the one before that read this, and was fairly rewarded if slightly disagreeing with some things:



4. i watched more 1911 danish stuff and the way sexually voracious older women are played & shown without much censure acting & achieving their desires would make me shout a big hurrah if i hadn't had such a disappointing personal history with danish men. but still, you go girls. eat them alive.

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1. i solemnly swear i am gonna boycott the daily mail onwards!
2. alluring cover of the book reminds me i resolved in may 2021 that i will start a new thread in October 2021 (but i failed to keep the promise because it is already January 2022) — so, a brand new thread about a "kirlian force" coming soon!
3. it is a pity, i didn't cherish (due to my graphomania leanings) 1800th post for a longer time (and made the 1801st post already).

[sally]

loved capellani's l'épouvante - yadda yadda technical shot but also before this i've really struggled to see what made mistinguett such a mega star. here she clicked - a scatty arletty, a slight jeanne balibar - the way she sat on her bed and just casually chucked her slippers off into the room! ♥ (it's the echo of max, whenever he gets frustrated trying something, he tries and tries and then just....ah fuck it!)

[sally]

he's so cute!



altho i think main product of 1911 is new crush on valdemar psilander. shocked, shocked to discover that stumfilm.dk has as one of its genres 'erotic melodrama' as distinct from just plain old soppy melodrama. today valdemar was lady mary's (chatterley) love. not as rampant as the past few days but he did walk around everywhere swinging his massive gun.

[greennui]

Bring back mononymous French actresses I say (Mistinguett, Musidora, Arletty).

[sally]

greennui - since you're just sat around, can you please change Betty’s Apprenticeship / Léontine en apprentissage on letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/film/bettys-apprenticeship/ to 1911 please? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1192066/


& this is so frustrating - there is a french archive, with hundreds of 1911 films online for viewing but only 'restricted to audiovisual professionals' what do they achieve by that arseholes. https://gparchives.com/index.php?urlact ... Liste&init

just gives you tantalising glimpses of films you could see if you were deemed worthy enough:

feuillade's sous le joug (5 people have seen this on letterboxd so maybe there is some way of accessing these films? anyone have any idea?)



but their info is terrible (either that or again non-professionals are restricted from viewing) cuz some of them don't have titles or directors

and you just get a screenshot of the footage they hold and brief description

Gaston MODOT dans son prmier rôle)

aaaargh


and this, it even taunts you with pictures of him! ♥♥♥ and i can't even tell which film this is that i absolutely must see! fuck all these ivory towers

[greennui]

Done! Also added a poster, they look so naked without one.

I remember scouring through that archive for the last 1910's poll and leaving disappointed.

[sally]

cheers

similar story with some british 1911s held by the british film institute (a publicly funded body paid for with my fucking taxes) - they have digitised many films but you can only see them apparently 'from within registered institutions including hundreds of uk libraries' although every single library i contacted within travelling distance hadn't heard of it and had no access so i guess they mean london and why don't they just call the bloody thing the london film institute cuz it's not like it's accessible to us poor idiots that live in the rest of the country.

[sally]

so i watched another danish 'erotic melodrama' (no psilander alas) - ekspeditricen - and aside from nearly passing out at the first scene (utter glove-based, finger-licking, tight tight leather-jerking filth) it was okay i guess, what really makes these danish films stand out is the time it gives the characters to react like humans, all the other countries seem to be sped up plot reaction plot beat rhythms, or the italian drama ones where everything moves with the weight of death, but denmark, i could imagine having conversations with these people without envisioning a screaming cartoon in my head...

but the main problem i had with this one was......what the fuck is going on below? every single interior scene (apart from one at the doctors)









i spent most of the film playing spot the polar bear....it's bizarre, imagine a film where the mgm lion is on every wall reminding you it's just a movie.....what's the purpose???

[Lencho of the Apes]

what's the purpose???

It was a way of protecting copyright -- if some bootlegging bootlegger tried to merchandise their movie under their own aegis, the Copenhaggers would just point to the polar bar and say "See, motherfuckers? This is OUR movie!" Biograph also did it very visibly with their AB logo. I can't remember cameos by the Pathe rooster...

[sally]

aaaaaaaaaaaah i see....it's very distracting....

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

what's the purpose???

It was a way of protecting copyright -- if some bootlegging bootlegger tried to merchandise their movie under their own aegis, the Copenhaggers would just point to the polar bar and say "See, motherfuckers? This is OUR movie!" Biograph also did it very visibly with their AB logo. I can't remember cameos by the Pathe rooster...

I believe Pathe did it too. For the Papoose (1912) appears to have the Red Rooster passed off as authentic tipi decoration. According to Scott Simmon, they did that in many of their beat-the-Americans-at-their-own-game westerns.

[sally]

i'm glad that's a strategy that never caught on, haven't seen any more but maybe that's cuz i'm watching the wrong films (a load of these intensely annoying short stupid ones you wouldn't want to admit ownership of anyway)

on the other hand: les chalands!!! gorgeous early french barge film - has there been an earlier one? prototype of l'atalante, l'hirondelle et la mésange, la belle nivernaise, la vocation d'andré carel etc....

also enjoyed: ince's as a boy dreams - slight thing prefiguring jasset's children of captain grant adventure style

also carmen, o la hija del bandido, nice scenery, feisty gal and good carnival composition, getting the action moving vertically down the screen instead of back and forth - also mainly the directors are the same ones that made the priest porn i watched the other day, made under the aegis of, and for the furtive enjoyment of the then king of spain, alfonso xiii, which adds a certain patina to all of their films...

[sally]

hi

has anyone found a watchable version of the hunchback of notre dame? the ones on youtube are mainly blobs. on similar note does a colour version of moses saved from waters exist?

also, how are you feeling greennui? i have 30 1911 films that aren't on letterboxd. how big a dump can you deal with? (defo want the mario caserini, the francesca bertini, the riprese in egitto....)

[Lencho of the Apes]

Does anybody know what this is? It's on youtube as "The Pirates Of 1920," but that's the wrong title. Apparently made by a "Clarenden Studios."

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[Holdrüholoheuho]

https://twitter.com/DKSilentFilm/status ... 1849942019

it is a pity that besides a few truly hypnotic gazes (viz pics 1, 2 ↓↓), the Mormon priest was not really a Svengali and relied rather on his persuasive skills and on sedative drugs in his seductive practices (to quench his urges for holy polyamory).
the second hypnotic gaze (viz gif ↑ or pic 2 ↓) is also noteworthy because it incorporates the love triangle depiction! (viz the third (little) head in-between — viz the detail 2b ↓)

https://twitter.com/jirinvk/status/1480 ... 72195?s=20

Between the years 1905 and 1915, nineteen known movies portraying Mormonism were produced. These were not, however, made by Latter-day Saints; many were lurid tales of hypnotic missionaries and Western pioneer stories with storylines revolving around massacres or kidnappings.

The early 20th century saw an explosion of anti-Mormon propaganda — some 30 anti-LDS films were produced between 1905 and 1936, mostly in Great Britain.

1911 was the year of the 'Mormon Scare'.

The English Editor and the “Mormon Scare” of 1911
By Peter J. Vousden

In 1911 the Latter-day Saints in Great Britain found themselves, to an unprecedented degree, the focus of often intense public and official attention. Extravagant allegations were made against the Church and the missionaries in the national press, and questions were asked on the floor of the House of Commons. Winston Churchill, the Home Secretary, conducted an official inquiry into the activities of the Church. Although he concluded that the accusations were of no substance and that no action by the government was required, the matter did not end there; the popular press continued to publish fanciful accounts of Mormon elders kidnapping English girls.

... etc., etc., etc. → https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the- ... e-of-1911/

The church was galvanized in 1911 by an anti-Mormon potboiler from Denmark, A Victim of the Mormons. Victim was one of the world’s first multi-reel feature films and included a car chase scene, dramatic twists and hints of polygamous sex that enthralled audiences. An early industry magazine, The Moving Picture World, sided with the Mormon Church, calling Victim “a bad use of the moving picture. The stirring up of religious prejudice, the opening of old wounds, the renewal of bitterness is to be condemned utterly and without reservation.”

But some things remain the same in film marketing and the Mormon Church’s efforts to stop screenings of A Victim of the Mormons only drove the movie’s box office upwards. New York film mogul William H. Swanson, a friend of the LDS Church, offered another way, according to Brigham Young University historians Brian Cannon and Jacob Olmstead. “He encouraged Church leaders to commission their own film about Mormonism.” In 1912, “with the memory of their brush with anti-Mormon films fresh in their minds, Church authorities entered into a cooperative agreement with the Ellaye Motion Picture Company to produce a 90-minute feature.”

It proved savvy advice. When One Hundred Years of Mormonism premiered in Salt Lake City in 1913, it packed theaters. Moviegoers were treated to a six-reel epic, tracing Mormon history with scenes of heavenly visions, persecutions, mobs, assassination and a heroic pioneer migration. One Hundred Years cemented the religion in viewers’ minds in a positive way—even though many of the film’s scenes distorted mythology. For example, the depiction of church founder Joseph Smith translating the Book of Mormon didn’t jibe with the church’s witness accounts of how Smith used a “seer”stone.

Even though One Hundred Years of Mormonism may be responsible for a century’s worth of doctrinally questionable drawings, paintings and later film re-enactments, to most of the riveted viewers, such details were unimportant.

In the end, One Hundred Years failed to gain traction outside of Utah, even after new exciting scenes were added.

[sally]

Does anybody know what this is?

It's Percy Stow's 1910 lieutenant rose & the chinese pirates

[Lencho of the Apes]

Thank you so much!

[sally]

nw lencho, it's on bfi player but not anywhere else so nice to see it in the wild

it is a pity that besides a few truly hypnotic gazes

well they're pretty effective ones because I'm STILL hynotized

[Holdrüholoheuho]

i hoped that he will keep hypnotizing her on the ship and in his secret room as well, so i was mildly disappointed that he involved his hypnotic charms only in the early stages of seduction (and later substituted classic hypnotic gaze for modern sedatives).

[greennui]

also, how are you feeling greennui? i have 30 1911 films that aren't on letterboxd. how big a dump can you deal with? (defo want the mario caserini, the francesca bertini, the riprese in egitto....)

Hit me with em!

[sally]

also, how are you feeling greennui? i have 30 1911 films that aren't on letterboxd. how big a dump can you deal with? (defo want the mario caserini, the francesca bertini, the riprese in egitto....)

Hit me with em!

okay, not that me mentioning them is a recommendation, but for a start how about

Picturesque Colorado? Film is too bad to get nice screenshot but there's descriptions and a (not much resemblance to the film, though it looks like the correct film studio) poster on imdb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1187321/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

and...

Motoring Over Ben Nevis https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8839984/
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/wat ... 911-online - dunno how lengthy you like the descriptions....
also there's nice pics in a lot of uk press (feel free to use dailymail here!)

[sally]

oh yay, people check resources for some perret goodness (not just 1911) - if you don't ask you don't get!

[Lencho of the Apes]

Treasure trove! Thanks, Mags, for paying it forward.

[greennui]

but for a start how about

Done!

[sally]

thank you!

& if anyone got too eager with the perret stuff, one more, the specific 1911 one i was after got added a little while later, so it should be there now in same place as others (did wonder about posting it, but he didn't say not to, and & he posted it independently of my query in a very unrestricted public twitter post, so assume it was okay. now we just need to figure out where this magical CFC is that he mentioned to someone else as the place where they were all initially posted, is there a higher heaven than KG? (assuming these ones aren't on kg) we need some fluent spanish speakers to go undercover and find out!)

anyway meanwhile, more delights with l'odissea - strictly sets/special effects cuz interminable intertitles, but o that occasional green tinting is gorgeous (hardly ever get green tints)

also why should heroes spend 12 hours a day in the gym?

[Lencho of the Apes]

Starting Something - Alice Guy, hitting the absinthe? Baffling but delightful phys. com. joke plays out over practically the whole run time, there's a militant suffragist and there's

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[Lencho of the Apes]

Also, it's not on LB, so I can't gauge who's seen it, but A Day In The Life Of A Wigan Miner looks like essential Sallycore. Produced by a labor union! And I thought Wigan was all about dance clubs...