1962 Poll 2.0

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Os Cajafestes kinda kicked my ass, except for the little bit of reptile brain that told me it was pretentious twaddle. Pill-popping hipsters, lotsa misogyny (from the characters), lotta Antonionioid vacant stares and pregnant silences and posing.

I'm looking forward to watching Whale God.
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whale god?! :o WHERE

NM it's on youtube :kisscheek:
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Starring shintaro katsu w script by Kaneto shindo. dreadful video quality reminds me of my youth watching kaiju at my japanese friend's house on saturdays. thx lencho :D

Not bad aside from er... the rape situation
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Sandoz (as a film producing company) was getting to its height in 1962...
BALLET ON A PARAPHRENIC TOPIC (Eric Duvivier, 1962)

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Ballet sur un thème paraphrénique represents the "factastic" area of the Sandoz film portfolio – films that feature opulent and extravagant set design and unclear, almost crazy narratives, but are often based on scientific subjects, such as the results of specific research papers or studies of mental disorders. That is also the case of Ballet. Director Éric Duvivier who created most films in the aforementioned category aimed for an audiovisual expression of the state of "paraphrenia" which is a type of schizophrenia where reality overlaps with schizophrenic hallucinations.
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rischka wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:32 pm thx
Oh, I was just responding to Greg's enthusiastic writeup immediately upstream.
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Oops I failed to check the previous page. It was fun tho. THX GREG

i also saw the werckmeister connection in the closing shots and liked the way that christianity vs the old religion is an explicit subplot

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1457 ... 15552?s=20

the actual ending was quite moving
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nrh wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:33 pm six rifleman episodes directed by joseph h. lewis.
Those are 1963 at imdb, but they're available on putlocker. I'm curious myself.
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i got those fredas if anyone needs them. time i caught up
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Lencho of the Apes wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:35 pm
nrh wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:33 pm six rifleman episodes directed by joseph h. lewis.
Those are 1963 at imdb, but they're available on putlocker. I'm curious myself.
the waste two parter at least is '62, and i've heard that's one of the most lewis of the lewis riflemans.
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This is not Sirk.
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really enjoyed freda's seven swords. hot swashbuckling and gorgeous colors. someone restore this please!

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maciste in hell (the witch's curse) is an odd one. it's a witch burner set in scotland. then maciste wanders in from the greek/roman world. it's fun but his range is sadly limited to pushing fake boulders around and wrestling animals. needs more swashbuckling. i'll watch horrible hichcock today - didn't know barbara steele was in this

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edit: horrible hichcock was fun enough, nice colors and lightly transgressive. wish seven swords looked this good
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Woton's Wake - Brian de Palma.

Student film! Recommended to The Green And The Black for the ways it's like/unlike early Rollin, and to anyone who's interested in that point of intersection between artfilm and horror/exploito.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... n%27s+wake
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Well, I finally watched a movie for this – Rocha's Barravento. Some good stuff, some not so good stuff, but all told recommended. Hoping to get to a few others before the end of the month.
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The World's Greatest Sinner has entered my canon of notable off-off-Hollywood mindfucks. Nicolas Cage's breakout performance.
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1962 poll No5:
HUMAN ZOO (Yoji Kuri)
Now THAT’S What I Call Anime!
Weird, poorly made fetish art.
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i've watched akitsu springs - it's beautifully filmed and great melodrama, even if i hate that she throws her life away on this asshole, mariko okada was luminous every minute

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Unranked ballot:
Advise & Consent
Arrivano i titani (My Son, the Hero)
Assalto ao Trem Pagador (Assault on the Pay Train)
Cape Fear
Chelovek-Amfibiya (Amphibian Man)
Experiment in Terror
Gritos en la noche (The Awful Dr. Orlof)
Il sorpasso (The Easy Life)
Kanchenjungha
Kiru (‎Destiny's Son)
Kyûpora no aru machi (Cupola, Where the Furnaces Glow)
Le quattro giornate di Napoli (The Four Days of Naples)
Le sette spade del vendicatore (The Seventh Sword)
Lonely Are the Brave
Onna no za (The Wiser Age)
Ride the High Country
The Chapman Report
Tlayucan
War Hunt
Yeolnyeomun (Bound by Chastity Rule)

Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500):
Cléo de 5 à 7
El ángel exterminador
Hatari!
Ivanovo detstvo
Jules et Jim
La jetée
Lawrence of Arabia
L'eclisse
Salvatore Giuliano
Sanma no aji
Seppuku
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
To Kill a Mockingbird
Tsubaki Sanjuro
Vivre sa vie: Film en douze tableaux
What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?

To see before the deadline:
A esli eto lyubov?

Wanted:
Aci hayat
El filibusterismo
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This has been a fine poll for new discoveries. I just finished watching Sumaithaangi, one of Mubi's Tamil library films that is going to be gone in a few days, and it was quite satisfying, having both the broad melodrama one might expect from the romance and family troubles, but also managing to have a nice subtle side as well in how they play the big moments of drama off against the musical numbers, some lovely touches of cinematography and just in the way the story continually cuts back against its outward themes.

I also had a chance to watch Malfices/Where the Truth Lies, not quite great, but close enough to feel slightly irked by the chance missed. A vaguely Chabrolish tale of infidelity and foul play that hints at a colonialist critique and/or biting cynicism but pulls back to a more commercial take just before delivering, but still has some touches of something better that linger.

Man in Outer Space, a Lipsky film, is amusing and has some bite to it, managing to use its science fiction hook to criticize both the government and fellow citizens a bit, but not so much as to cause real difficulty, but still enjoyable.

The Naval Battle of 1894 is pretty decent Chinese "propaganda film", as the people on Letterboxd seeem to call it, but what's interesting to me about it is the direction the propaganda aspect takes, as the story is about a war China loses made the same year China would enter into battle against India and at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. It seems more about Mao than China as a whole, where Mao had been pressured into self-criticism and reducing his role in the government in January but went on to mastermind the war against India and reclaim his spot at the head of the party by the end of the year. Fascinating stuff to read about and into for those who like that kind of thing.
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o pagador de promessas -- a very straightforward allegory that could have used some more bunuelian humor. reason #100000 why religion is dumb
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I'm tellin' ya, Sumaithaangi does a nice twist on the religion is, well, maybe not dumb exactly, but kinda fucked up nonetheless. It made a nice combo with The Whale God (And a nice variation on Minsara Kanavu from '97 with which it shares an ending to different effect.)
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Not going to be the most out there list by any means but it is what it is.

1. Lawrence of Arabia
2. La Jetee
3. Exterminating Angel
4. Manchurian Candidate
5. Tale of Zatoichi

6. The Trial
7. Knife in the Water
8. The Longest Day
9. Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner
10. Zoo (Bert Haanstra)

11. To Kill a Mockingbird
12. Cat Skin (Joaquim Pedro de Andrade)
13. Lolita
14. Cape Fear
15. Love Me, Love Me, Love Me. (Richard Williams)

16. Antoine et Colette
17. Sign of the Lion
18. Cosmic Ray (Conner)
19. Carnival of Souls
20. Thanatopsis (Emshwiller)
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Hatari!
L'eclisse
An Autumn Afternoon
Jules and Jim
The Trial of Joan of Arc
Two Weeks in Another Town
Lawrence of Arabia
Le signe du lion
Vivre Sa Vie
Lolita
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May see one two more tho I doubt I'll see anything that could change the top 20 so here's. Frankly the ones I have seen for poll have been mediocrities for the most part. Os Cajafestes definitely did not kick my ass: young nihilists, Antonionian windowdressing, seen it a hundred times, yawn.

ivan's childhood
an autumn afternoon
il sorpasso
me, grandma, iliko & ilarion

hatari
the man who shot liberty valance
the mad fox
alyonka

mafioso
following the sun
nine days of one year
harakiri

when the trees were tall
mutiny on the bounty
kanchenjungha
a wanderer's notebook

the trial of joan of arc
but what if this is love?
los inundados
the wild dog dingo
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An Autumn Afternoon
Harakiri
La Jetee
The Graceful Brute
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence

Akitsu Springs
A Wanderer's Notebook
Cleo From 5 to 7
The Exterminating Angel
Two Weeks in Another Town

Il Sorpasso
Ivan's Childhood
L'Eclisse
The Trial
What Ever happened to Baby Jane?

Adieu Philippine
Carnival of Souls
Pitfall
The Fabulous Baron Munchausen
The Trial of Joan of Arc
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Advise & Consent (Preminger)
The Damned (Losey)
Experiment in Terror (Edwards)
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Minnelli)
Hatari! (Hawks)
The Horrible Dr. Hichcock (Freda)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Balance (Ford)
Ride the High Country (Peckinpah)
To Kill a Mockingbird (Mulligan)
A Woman's Place (Naruse)

Black Soul (Rossellini)
An Autumn Afternoon (Ozu)
The Chapman Report (Cukor)
Le Doulos (Melville)
The Elusive Corporal (Renoir)
The Exterminating Angel (Buñuel)
Kanchenjungha (Ray)
Knife in the Water (Polanski)
Lawrence of Arabia (Lean)
Il Sorpasso (Risi)
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karl wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:01 am did not kick my ass
Sorry it didn't work for you, thanks for trying. I'd be the first to admit that it was Antonioni AF, but it wore the influence gracefully, "earned" it as the younguns say... especially compared to each of the five Argentine movies I watched for the year that used all M.A.s mannerisms to pretty null effect.
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i was completey charmed by adieu philippine

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1465 ... 42337?s=20

i expect i'll make some revisions in my list -- tmrw
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Kanchenjungha
An Autumn Afternoon
Cleo from 5 to 7
My Mother-in-Law (Ibu mertuaku)
Sumaithaangi

The Suitor
Pitfall
Killer Whale
Billy Budd
The Trial

Salvatore Giuliano
Mafioso
In Search of the Castaways
Advise and Consent
I Hate but Love

Shinobi no mono/Ninja, a Band of Assassins
The Girls
Sodom and Gommorah
Amphibian Man
Walk on the Wild Side
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Final list:

The Parallel Street (Khittl)
The Suitor (Etaix)
Harakiri (Kobayashi)
Kanchenjungha (Ray)
The Fabulous Baron Munchausen (Zeman)

La Jetee (Marker)
An Autumn Afternoon (Ozu)
The Trial (Welles)
Dog Star Man: Part I (Brakhage)
L'Eclisse (Antonioni)

Vivre Sa Vie (Godard)
The Exterminating Angel (Bunuel)
Hatari! (Hawks)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Ford)
The Given Word (Duarte)

Ivan's Childhood (Tarkovsky)
Cleo from 5 to 7 (Varda)
David and Lisa (Perry)
Two Weeks in Another Town (Minnelli)
The Miracle Worker (Penn)
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die parallelstrasse (khittl)
alyonka (barnet)
the mad fox (uchida)
tlayucan (alcoriza)
the man who shot liberty valance (ford)

the graceful brute (kawashima)
le doulos (melville)
il sorpasso (risi)
an autumn afternoon (ozu)
two weeks in another town (minnelli)

kiru (misumi)
pitfall (teshigahara)
the seventh sword (freda)
ivan's childhood (tarkovsky)
cleo from 5 to 7 (varda)

adieu philippine (rozier)
temple of wild geese (kawashima)
amphibian man (kazansky, chebotaryov)
the devil's trap (vlacil)
akitsu springs (yoshida)

a tough list to break into
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