1954 poll 2.0

[mesnalty]

Final list:

A Star Is Born (Cukor)
Johnny Guitar (Ray)
Rear Window (Hitchcock)
Salt of the Earth (Biberman)

An Inn at Osaka (Gosho)
Sansho the Bailiff (Mizoguchi)
Brigadoon (Minnelli)
Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)

Gyromorphosis (Hirsh)
Nus Masculins (Reichenbach)
Drive a Crooked Road (Quine)
Sound of the Mountain (Naruse)

Journey to Italy (Rossellini)
Twenty-Four Eyes (Kinoshita)
Silver Lode (Dwan)
Magnificent Obsession (Sirk)

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1954 poll No25:
THE GRASSHOPPER AND THE ANT (Lotte Reiniger)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_a ... rasshopper
Are you hungry? Well then,
Turn a pirouette,
Dine on a mazurka,
Have polka for supper.

https://youtu.be/b6H4kUKtgNs

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1954 poll No26:
THE SLEEPING BEAUTY (Lotte Reiniger)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jserv

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1954 poll No27:
THUMBELINA (Lotte Reiniger)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumbelina
At Slagelse, Andersen fell under the tutelage of Simon Meisling, a short, stout, balding thirty-five-year-old classicist and translator of Virgil's Aeneid. Andersen was not the quickest student in the class and was given generous doses of Meisling's contempt. "You're a stupid boy who will never make it", Meisling told him. Meisling is believed to be the model for the learned mole in "Thumbelina".

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2z8dw5

[lineuphere]

Final list:

Another Sky (Gavin Lambert - UK)
The Crucified Lovers (Kenji Mizoguchi - Japan)
Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa - Japan)
The Last Bridge (Helmut Käutner - Austria/Yugoslavia)

Sound of the Mountain (Mikio Naruse - Japan)
Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi - Japan)
An Inn at Osaka (Heinosuke Gosho - Japan)
Salt of the Earth (Herbert J. Biberman - USA)

Late Chrysanthemums (Mikio Naruse - Japan)
Magnificent Obsession (Douglas Sirk - USA)
Saraba Rabauru (Ishirô Honda - Japan)
Dial M for Murder (Alfred Hitchcock - USA)

A Free Woman (Vittorio Cottafavi - Italy)
Carmen Jones (Otto Preminger - USA)
The Woman in the Rumor (Kenji Mizoguchi - Japan)
Suicide Mission (Michael Forlong - Norway)

The Blazing Sun (Youssef Chahine - Egypt)
Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock - USA)
Twenty-Four Eyes (Keisuke Kinoshita - Japan)
A Star Is Born (George Cukor - USA)

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1954 poll No28:
PUSS IN BOOTS (Lotte Reiniger)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puss_in_Boots
In folkloristics, Puss in Boots is classified as Aarne–Thompson–Uther ATU 545B, "Puss in Boots", a subtype of ATU 545, "The Cat as Helper". ... Variations of the feline helper across cultures replace the cat with a jackal or fox.
...
The renowned illustrator of Dickens' novels and stories, George Cruikshank, was shocked that parents would allow their children to read "Puss in Boots" and declared: "As it stood the tale was a succession of successful falsehoods—a clever lesson in lying!—a system of imposture rewarded with the greatest worldly advantages."

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jseru

[...]

Illusion Travels by Streetcar
Senso
The Crucified Lovers
Another Sky

Five from Barka Street
Voyage in Italy
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
Young at Heart

The Raid
After the Curfew
It Should Happen to You
The Hand of Destiny

Naukari
The Blazing Sun
Four Guns to the Border
Sound of the Mountain

La Strada
Samurai I: Musashi Miyamoto
Aar Paar
The Creature from the Black Lagoon

[karl]

Finding places for the Gardens of Evil Women. Will watch the Bergman tonight, see if it knocks any off the list. It'll be, alas, the only movie I'll get around to for the poll. Computer busted & am on the road.

Sansho the Bailiff
The Seven Samurai
The Sound of the Mountain
The Purple Plain

An Inn in Osaka
La Strada
The Far Country
Rear Window

The Crucified Lovers
The Woman in the Rumor
Garden of Women
Journey to Italy

Magnificent Obsession
Raíces
Silver Lode
La Spiaggia

The Gold of Naples
Human Desire
Late Chrysanthemums
Garden of Evil

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Films seen: 50+

Obviously, three-tiered ballots aren't possible if there's 20 films, but it sums evenly with their counterparts if it's 15 and I give 5-3-1, so I'll do that. FYI for future: Three-tiered ballots are scored 5-3-1 and can only be 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films long.

Also, I'll tally this early tomorrow morn, so you'll want to have your ballots all in by, say, around midnight EDT.

[flip]

Obviously, three-tiered ballots aren't possible if there's 20 films

there is a way!

in the larger polls, my tiering rule was just that lower tiers needed to be as big as, or larger than, higher tiers. so if someone wanted to post a 20-film ballot in three tiers, they could break it down 6-7-7, or 6-6-8, but not 7-6-7, for example. the scoring was still the same. i liked that rule because if someone wanted to post, say, a 17-film ballot, they still have a way to rank it if they want to.

[Lencho of the Apes]

If you do it by hand, you can handle any kind of divergence, just adjusting the numerical values assigned to each tier. Decimal points will be involved...

[Lencho of the Apes]

Man, when I started digging, there was a diversity of authorial voices far beyond what I expected -- the late fifties arthouse boom was barely starting to get underway, but all this stuff was happening anyway. And I didn't even get to everything I wanted...

ditch (shindo)
Rear Window
Riot in Cell Block 11 (Don Siegel)
Salt Of The Earth - H. Biberman

The Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (Kenneth Anger)
Lechtfeuer
Touchez Pas Au Grisbi - Jacques Becker
La Ilusion Viaja En Tranvia

Human Desire - Lang
Rebelion De Los Colgados - A Crevenna, E Fernandez
El Rio Y La Muerte - Bunuel
Biraj Bahu - Bimal Roy

La Strada
Joan Of Arc - Rossellini
Journey to Italy
Dawn At Socorro

Boot Polish - Prakash Akora
Die Letzte Brucke - Kautner
The Long Long Trailer
Them!

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Obviously, three-tiered ballots aren't possible if there's 20 films

there is a way!

in the larger polls, my tiering rule was just that lower tiers needed to be as big as, or larger than, higher tiers. so if someone wanted to post a 20-film ballot in three tiers, they could break it down 6-7-7, or 6-6-8, but not 7-6-7, for example. the scoring was still the same. i liked that rule because if someone wanted to post, say, a 17-film ballot, they still have a way to rank it if they want to.

I hadn't considered that ! I think the case against doing that would be that 3-tier ballots would then be at a disadvantage, because a 20-film ballot always gives 60 points in total by other organization, but it can only give 58 points (at 6-7-7) or 56 points (at 6-6-8), unless I change the scoring system with decimals. I'm tempted now to add decimals though, to make it work...

[flip]

there's a different way to look at that -- if a voter wants to use three tiers, then if unequal tiers aren't allowed, they can only vote for 18 films, and give 54 points in total. when unequal tiers are allowed, they can then give more points in total, because a 20 film ballot in three tiers will give at least 56 points (assuming the tiers are each 6-8 films in size). so i'd think it would be fine to avoid decimals as long as voters know what they're getting into.

i did use decimals though for some of the big polls, but it got complicated when tiers were anarchically sized, which happened a lot (i'd sometimes get tiers like 11-16-13-10 or something like that, and it's awkward working out how to assign points in those cases, at least doing things the way i was, by hand). the one thing i liked about the decimals is that it became rare that there were ever ties near the top of the results, so there are advantages and disadvantages!

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Thanks very much, flip, I'll keep all this in mind! I think you're right that if folks know going in what to expect, then a 20-film three-tier ballot is no problem.

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Tally is done, I'll post the results sometime in the next couple hours. For now: There were 140 films voted for in total, over 24 ballots.

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Results

All films receiving 6+ points are listed below

1. Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock) / 55.5
2. Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa) / 48.5
3. Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi) / 46.5
4. Salt of the Earth (Herbert J. Biberman) / 39.5
5. Touchez Pas au Grisbi (Jacques Becker) / 35
6. Sound of the Mountain (Mikio Naruse) / 34.5
7. Viaggio in Italia (Roberto Rossellini) / 33.5
8. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray) / 31.5
9. A Story from Chikamatsu / The Crucified Lovers (Kenji Mizoguchi) / 31
10. An Inn at Osaka (Heinosuke Gosho) / 28.5

11. Senso (Luchino Visconti) / 26
12. Another Sky (Gavin Lambert) / 25
13. On the Waterfront (Elia Kazan) / 24
14. Dial M for Murder (Alfred Hitchcock) / 23
15. La Strada (Federico Fellini) / 22
16. Vera Cruz (Robert Aldrich) / 21
17. Silver Lode (Allan Dwan) / 20.5
18. Late Chrysanthemums (Mikio Naruse) / 20
19. Illusion Travels by Streetcar (Luis Bunuel) / 18
— Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (Kenneth Anger) / 18
— The Far Country (Anthony Mann) / 18
— The Raid (Hugo Fregonese) / 18

23. Drive a Crooked Road (Richard Quine) / 17.5
24. Human Desire (Fritz Lang) / 17
25. Brigadoon (Vincente Minnelli) / 16.5
— Twenty-Four Eyes (Keisuke Kinoshita) / 16.5
27. A Star Is Born (George Cukor) / 15.5
28. The Purple Plain (Robert Parrish) / 15
29. Dawn at Socorro (George Sherman) / 13
30. A Free Woman (Vittorio Cottafavi) / 12
— Godzilla (Ishiro Honda) / 12

32. Magnificent Obsession (Douglas Sirk) / 11.5
33. Magic City (Nikos Koundouros) / 11
— Shield for Murder (Howard Koch) / 11
— The Last Bridge (Helmut Kautner) / 11
— The Woman in the Rumor (Kenji Mizoguchi) / 11
— Them! (Gordon Douglas) / 11
38. Gyromorphosis (Hy Hirsh) / 9.5
39. Aar Paar (Guru Dutt) / 9
— Portrait of an Unknown Woman (Helmut Kautner) / 9
— Riot in Cell Block 11 (Don Siegel) / 9
— Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (Stanley Donen) / 9
— The Barefoot Contessa (Joseph L. Mankiewicz) / 9
— The Blazing Sun (Youssef Chahine) / 9

45. Nus masculins (Francois Reichenbach) / 8.5
46. Sabrina (Billy Wilder) / 8
— The Garden of Women (Keisuke Kinoshita) / 8
— The Maggie (Alexander Mackendrick) / 8
49. An Inspector Calls (Guy Hamilton) / 7
— Cattle Queen of Montana (Allan Dwan) / 7
— Creature from the Black Lagoon (Jack Arnold) / 7
— Cry Vengeance (Mark Stevens) / 7
— Five from Barska Street (Aleksander Ford) / 7
— Ride Clear of Diablo (Jesse Hibbs) / 7
— Samurai I: Miyamoto Musashi (Hiroshi Inagaki) / 7
— The Adventures of Hajji Baba (Don Weis) / 7
— The Mad Magician (John Brahm) / 7
— The Naked Jungle (Byron Haskin) / 7
— Wuthering Heights (Luis Bunuel) / 7

60. Black Tuesday (Hugo Fregonese) / 6
— The Beacon (Wolfgang Staudte) / 6