Everything is Political

[Holdrüholoheuho]

So many jewels in there!

All credits to the sharp-sighted alt-right image theorists!
I was just a humble servant of their creative paranoia.

[pabs]

Well thank you so much for your humble servitude!

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DJT

4, 10, 20

Oct 4, 2020

The day Trump left hospital to greet supporters

What was he trying to tell us? Why didn't we listen?

[Holdrüholoheuho]

current paranoia among the followers of Trumpolpot reminds me of this film called "THE EAR"...
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-ear/

Senior ministry official Ludvik and wife Anna find their house is riddled with listening devices put there by his own ministry. A harrowing night follows, and the resolution is worse than being carted off to jail.

[rischka]

"Police arrest Florida man who was allegedly carrying Nancy Pelosi's lectern in the Capitol" https://twitter.com/i/events/1347924332538855424?s=09

If these asshats weren't all antimaskers they'd be harder to identify

[rischka]

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/chris-99178053752

don't think i've ever seen chris hayes so upset. 45% of republicans apparently approve of sedition. this is a very serious problem

[Holymanm]

45% of republicans (at least) don't know what sedition means... i strongly suspect the american edumacation system just hasn't taught people what words like democracy and freedom mean, so these folks think they're good characters in a video game, rather than terrorists disrupting free elections. fun!

not that other countries are necessarily much better... but i think insufficient attention is being given to the problem of expecting people to behave according to words and concepts that they literally don't understand. and with social media and instant mass movements, we're seeing this dissonance suddenly hit the fan. or in the immortal words of one of the poets of our time, "books wtf??"

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There goes books

[Holdrüholoheuho]

MAGA FAILED COUP MAGA NARRATIVE:
1/"Antifa did it"
2/"They thought Capitol was open'"
3/ "It's all a loyalty test" or "Judases' ultimate uncover"or "RINO Purge"
4/ ???
what's gonna be next?
A/ "Collective suicides in bunkers"???
B/ "Collective exodus from Facebook & Instagram & Twitter"???
C/ "Building a boat to survive the big flood afloat"???
D/ "Storming Tesla to capture a rocket to survive the big flood on the orbit"???
#TheBestIsYetToCome

It seems Maga folks started stagging ACT4 ("grand withdrawal") and B is closest to surreality ("exodus from big tech" or "going neoamish").
However, the exodus from Facebook & Instagram & Twitter to Parler is only a secondary issue.
The primary issue is to find a phone which is not running on iOS or Android.
It will be really tough because (as we Antifa vagabonds know) capitalism without socialist regulations naturally tends to monopoly/oligopoly.
So for ppl advocating capitalism and opposing socialism, it will be a Sisyphean task to solve this evil monopoly riddle.
Anyway, let's see their daring approach to the withdrawal problem...

I’ve been using Apple products for forever. Any suggestions on phones comparable to the iPhone? I don’t want to support companies that censor conservatives.

Many say that the Samsung line is superior to Apple. But it has an Android OS and Google is part of the censoring cartel.

Problem is, Apple's business model of “lifelong loyalty” makes it very hard to pull the plug and switch. It will involve a major disruption but maybe it’s worth it if you compare it to the thousands that gave their lives for our freedoms.

I left apple a long time ago as a result of censorship and their AntiChrist behavior.

And what exactly does the Apple logo signify, if not original sin?

What a slap in the face to all pro-American Apple customers!

Try the Biden20Pro. Works great in dark basements and automatically goes into sleep mode whenever possible. Also comes with a free subscription to Hunter's laptop wallpaper collection.

Time to stop buying smartphones. OR a new company needs to be funded and run by patriots in the USA.

This is a great time for conservative investors. New phone, new apps, new streaming services, etc, etc...

Elon Musk, here’s your chance!

I would love a Tesla phone!

Patriots have more power than we think when we band together and hit them where it hurts — sales/profits and stock price.

I imagine when the Great Purge begins we will have to go back to Carrier Pigeons to communicate.

The END of the Fable of the Original Sinapple and the Flock of Purging Pigeons.

[greennui]

"Police arrest Florida man who was allegedly carrying Nancy Pelosi's lectern in the Capitol" https://twitter.com/i/events/1347924332538855424?s=09

If these asshats weren't all antimaskers they'd be harder to identify

That mugshot is delish.

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/ ... 9173903367

https://twitter.com/reenaroy/status/1347644935915372546

Just need the horned guy now.

You get the feeling that most of these guys weren't bright enough to fully comprehend the reality of it all. Same goes for the president.

[rischka]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... e-rioters/

there were several active LEO inside, including a police chief from new hampshire, and a number of highly decorated veterans. they felt the president had sanctioned their actions. also, they are white. Q shaman is from arizona. because of course he is

the infiltration of law enforcement and military by white supremacists is an ongoing problem.

i was thinking about ruby ridge and waco and tim mcveigh. this has been brewing a long time. i fear we'll see a lot more terrorist actions

we've got Q anon elected officials now and this monster has spread throughout the world. for those who think russiagate wasn't a big deal

https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status ... 05089?s=20

i feel like i've been trying to wake people up for a long time

[pabs]

This is all really shocking and sick.

If you need to relax a bit and take your mind off things for an hour or so, I recommend you watch KEDI, the film about street cats.

[pabs]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/in-pull ... 56sy4.html

[rischka]

I dont even think its shocking. You could see it coming from way back. I've heard abt the 'race war' all my life

[kanafani]

for those who think russiagate wasn't a big deal

Huh what does russiagate have to do with this? If anything, on a certain level, “stop the steal” is for republicans what russiagate was for democrats.

It is not surprising that police and national security institutions have a built-in reactionary bias. After all that is what they’re there for: protect the system from any force that wants to change it or topple it. From their point of view, BLM is a threat, so is “antifa”, so are anti-war folks, so are environmentalists, etc. Bur maga psychos are not, as they basically want nothing to ever change. In a sense maga psychos are the system, but with the polite nice mask off.

The scary thing is that we’ve been pumping literally hundreds of billions of dollars into these reactionary institutions for years, and we’ll continue to do so. Biden will probably react to all this by injecting tons of money into some “domestic anti-terrorism” endeavor. Take a wild guess as to what those dollars will eventually be deployed for. Keep financing the monster that will eat us alive one day. And you can depend on the mainstream media (which is a thing that exists in reality, not a right wing invention, sorry) to never seriously challenge all this.

As long as both parties are essentially corporatist entities that serve the status quo and keep money rolling to the army and police and vested interests etc, these armed reactionary state groups won’t have much incentive to force things. But if a day comes where there’s a real progressive/leftist alternative in this country, then you can bet on them stepping in. The road to fascism.

[rischka]

So you're saying it's a good thing Bernie didn't win haha. They already think Joe is a socialist. BTW he was seriously considering Bernie for labor secretary but they've decided not to risk his seat now we won in Georgia. I dont want to fight about russiagate again but just to clear things up, who do you think hacked the DNC emails that created pizzagate/qanon? Seth rich or some 300 lbs guy in his parents bedroom?

[rischka]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ax/615373/

I know this is MSM so you probably think its fake news but anyway :p trump is the usefullest idiot putin has ever had. he's got his cult openly attacking their own country now

https://youtu.be/3kxG8uJUsWU

if there was nothing to hide why did trump obstruct justice DAILY. and why was the first batch of emails released right after the notorious 'access hollywood' tape? coincidence i guess. trump lied to mueller and roger stone covered his ass and got a pardon for his trouble

[kanafani]

So you're saying it's a good thing Bernie didn't win haha.

Lol no that is not what I’m saying. You think pacifying fascists by supporting useless centrists forever is a winning strategy?
Something’s got to give. Centrist democrats are finding it harder and harder to keep this thing together. I think it’s “Socialism or barbarism” in the long run, and I’m sorry to say I don’t feel optimistic at all.

I don’t believe for a second that Biden would have selected Bernie as labor secretary. It’s more PR bullshit. His donors would not allow it.

I dont want to fight about russiagate again but just to clear things up, who do you think hacked the DNC emails that created pizzagate/qanon? Seth rich or some 300 lbs guy in his parents bedroom?

I don’t want to fight either, but, Rischka, come on, you really think Russians created qanon or pizzagate? These are currents that have existed in American life for a long time. Can’t blame Putin for everything. At some point one must look in the mirror. Sure, Russians hack and spy, so do other countries, so does the us. I don’t think any of this had much effect on anything. Democrats adopted it to explain away their epic failure in 2016.

[rischka]

it just makes me so angry cuz it seems like straight up misogyny blaming hillary. also they don't seem too pacified. they will never allow socialism because their tax money will be helping non-white people. even obamacare is too much for them. it's called white supremacy

and no i think some trolls on 4chan created pizzagate and Qanon -- out of the leaked emails because fascists are misogynist. why was manafort passing information to a russian agent? why was he working for the trump campaign for free?? why was he pardoned. furthermore why was roger stone pardoned? it's well established that he was the conduit -- trump lied to mueller and stone lied to cover trumps ass. i STILL know people who think hillary should be in jail because she deleted emails.

anyway it was the comey letter that nailed the coffin, that's pretty obvious. i like to imagine what would happen if hillary had acted like trump is doing now. pussyhats storming the capital!! she'd likely be executed. the hate for that woman is out of all proportion, it's just astonishing

[Monsieur Arkadin]

Idk. I could be wrong, but I think America is both more/less racist than we think. The very foundations of our country are racist to the core, but individuals are mostly only racist superficially. The reason they hate socialism is because of a sports team mentality, not because non-whites also get benefits.

If Trump was elected in 2016, and quickly decided to undertake a bunch of socialist projects, I think his moron supporters would have joyfully screamed to the heavens about how Trump was the only one to get people healthcare, and to take on the Big Tech/Big Pharma/Big Banks, etc. They don't hate socialism as much as they think they do. Obamacare was too much for them because it was Obamacare. But the Republicans didn't mind it when it was Romneycare.

[rischka]

the RNC was also hacked but nothing was ever released. curious, no?? putin hated hillary and supported trump, there is no question about it. if you think that had no influence i don't know what to tell you

If Trump was elected in 2016, and quickly decided to undertake a bunch of socialist projects

lol they knew he would never knew that because he is a well known rascist

Obamacare was too much for them because it was Obamacare

right i'm sure this has nothing to do with rascsim. anyway i'm done, i fought too much about this in 2016. that election was about rascism/sexism i.e. fascism. y'all STILL in denial. goddamn. also this is pretty funny

https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status ... 05089?s=20

[flip]

russiagate is not equivalent to stop the steal, because russiagate is real and stop the steal is not. why did flynn commit a felony to cover up conversations with russia? why was manafort delivering battleground polling breakdowns to russian intelligence? those are facts no one disputes. something happened, trump maybe was an unwitting fool in the whole thing, but it's not a hoax, and it's not something manufactured by mainstream media

[kanafani]

I never said there were the same, I said they were similar on certain levels. Not the same thing. russiagate took dimensions out of proportion with the actual facts. It just became a convenient way for Democrats to deflect and not talk about essential things on which they have nothing to say or offer. It is easier to live in a fantasy where big bad Putin is the puppetmaster moving all the strings. Anyway, really don’t want to talk much about this, but I do not want what I said to be mischaracterized.

[rischka]

greenwald really hates hillary and it's broken his brain. of course, he's not alone

i just get so tired of defending her. the fascists have moved on to AOC and omar

[kanafani]

greenwald really hates hillary and it's broken his brain. of course, he's not alone

i just get so tired of defending her.

I don’t want to keep harping on this because I feel it upsets you and I don’t want bad blood between us, but your insistence that my criticism of Democrats is based on some kind of misogyny is wrong and very disappointing. Not every person who disagrees with you is a white supremacist woman hater. Ridiculous.

[rischka]

i don't think you are but if you think it's not one of the reasons she lost you're crazy. omg

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/stat ... 74240?s=20

It just became a convenient way for Democrats to deflect and not talk about essential things on which they have nothing to say or offer.

i don't understand this. hillary had all kinds of policies. trump had rascism. biden had all kinds of policies. trump didn't even bother putting out a platform.

people really don't care about issues. emotions brought them to the polls. hate and fear mostly

hillary was FAR from my ideal candidate but i didn't vote for her just because she has a vagina as many people suggested. she was FAR more qualified than trump could ever be and i argued with people about that CONSTANTLY. i'm sorry if i'm triggered when people bring it up and i apologize if i've offended anyone. again

but you have to admit, even if putin had nothing at all to do with it, it could hardly have turned out better for him. i'm sure he's laughing his ass off

[rischka]

i'll try to stay away from this thread now. i get too excited

[MrCarmady]

I think Bannon's vision for the way Trumpism would evolve was based on economic populism, but in the end he lost out to the more traditional hawkish / big corporate wing of the party. So I feel like what Arkadin is saying makes a lot of sense, the culture war comes first with these people, anything to own the libs. But of course both parties rarely get beyond lip service when it comes to making working class people's lives meaningfully better, it's just that the Democrats usually aren't actively harmful in the way that Republicans are, they're just mostly useless.

[rischka]

lol

is there some way i can not see this thread? i'm just too disturbed right now. most of the people i see every day still support trump.

i thought 2021 would be better

do you guys think a war is inevitable and/or desirable? that's what bannon wants. i think people may vote for socialism... in 50 years or so. is the plan to destroy democracy first? how will we establish this socialist utopia and what can i do to help. i'm really scared and i don't get to talk to many sane people. sorry again. not getting much sleep lately as i'm working double shifts cuz everyone is out with covid. do any of you know trump supporters? most of the men i know are trump supporters so i might be projecting on you guys

am i becoming the new damian? i'm gonna stay away for awhile since i can't seem to stop fighting with people

[Holdrüholoheuho]

you are not becoming new Damian even in the slightest and i expect the boys here are mostly tough fans of rap and would be able to withstand even a much harsher degree of dissing, so feel free to fight about any possible issue!
i like reading your political posts!
and i have to repeat again (i can repeat any number of times) i would miss your presence (be it political or film-related).
as i am already missing Sally's contributions.