1936 poll

[sally]

https://twitter.com/CitizenScreen/statu ... 0330169345

still the grin-fest to beat, even if, as roscoe says, the ending lets it down (seriously she doesn't deserve him). not including lubitsch, this is probably the comedy i've rewatched the most, along with the lady eve

i've searched my fingers off now and from countries with large enough industries, i can't seem to find any danish, czech, spanish or argentinian films at all with subs. is this correct?

[rischka]

https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1303 ... 84353?s=20

[Holdrüholoheuho]

1. May / Máj (E.F. Burian, Čeněk Zahradníček)

The Girl Irene / Das Mädchen Irene (Reinhold Schünzel)
Burgtheater (Willi Forst) "He comes, rehearses, performs and leaves. Always alone. An eccentric par excellence!"
Jánošík (Martin Frič)

Black and White Rhapsody / Černobílá rapsodie (Martin Frič)
Rainbow Dance (Len Lye)
Rhythmitis (Roy Mack)
The Lion Dance / Kagamijishi (Yasujiro Ozu)
The Fountain of Arethusa / La fontaine d'Aréthuse (Dimitri Kirsanoff)
A Girl in the Garden / Jeune fille au jardin (Dimitri Kirsanoff)
Spring's Awaking / Procitnutí jara (E.F. Burian, Čeněk Zahradníček)

Bored of Education (Gordon Douglas)
Reefer Madness (Louis J. Gasnier)
Headhunters of Borneo / Kopfjäger von Borneo (Victor von Plessen)

The Birth of the Robot (Len Lye)
Greedy Humpty Dumpty (Dave Fleischer)
The CooCoo Nut Grove (Friz Freleng)

Equation: X + X = O (Robert Fairthorne, Brian Salt)
Allegretto (Oskar Fischinger)
Dada (Mary Ellen Bute, Ted Nemeth)

[rischka]

thx jiri i've got das madchen irene and will watch tonight

[Lencho of the Apes]

'acceptable'

I knew wba was picky, but I always thought you were pretty forgiving. Here's the copy I found for myself. Looks fine to me.

https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4 08sT_Zy1w&t=62s

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[rischka]

das madchen has similar problems but also a german omar sharif does it count as nazi if it's reinhold schunzel?



you can see where the logo has been scrubbed.



anyway it's a delight

[Holdrüholoheuho]

does it count as nazi if it's reinhold schunzel?

i guess, the film counts in the broad category of "nazi melodrama", tho half-jewish "honorary aryan" reinhold schunzel was not a nazi symphatizer and spent WW2 in U.S.

- "The son of a German father and a Jewish mother"
- "Despite being Jewish, Schünzel was allowed by the Nazis to continue making films for several years until he eventually left to live abroad."
- "He was influenced by filmmakers such as his mentor Richard Oswald and Ernst Lubitsch"
- "Schünzel's work was very popular in Germany and the Nazi regime gave him the title of Ehrenarier or Honorary Aryan, allowing him to continue to direct and act despite his Jewish heritage (his mother was Jewish). He found that the government, first under Kaiser Wilhelm II and later under Adolf Hitler, interfered with his film projects, impelling him to leave 1937. Schuenzel described both the Kaiser and Hitler "persons of recognized authority and the worst possible dramatic taste.""
- "Moving to the United States, he worked in Hollywood, playing Nazis and scientists."
- "He began his American career in Hollywood in 1937 at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer."
- "Schünzel went to New York in 1945 to make a debut on Broadway"
- "He became a U.S citizen in 1943 and he returned to Germany in 1949."

however, i stumbled upon the "The Girl Irene" due to reading a book by Laura Heins called "Nazi Film Melodrama" (2013).

And there is some evidence that Nazi melodramas actually made less effective use of sound tracks than Hollywood melodramas. Ever wary of
excess, film critics in the Third Reich often wrote disapprovingly of the use of music to punctuate emotional moments in films. Das Mädchen Irene (The Girl Irene, 1936), for example, is an exceptional Third Reich melodrama, one that attempted to give music and camera work a higher degree of expressive power, and in which gesture is sometimes allowed to replace speech. The reviewer for the Film-Kurier commented on the film’s music as follows: “the use of the orchestra in crucial scenes is occasionally a bit overbearing.” Goebbels’s reaction to Das Mädchen Irene was even more damning, and he was so disgusted by the film that he cut short his private screening.

[rischka]

enjoyed very much and i've placed it in the place



omar looks more like anton walbrook later on

[sally]

omar looks more like anton walbrook later on

alright! i'll watch it!

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Little Rascals Bored Of Education (1936)
https://youtu.be/pX14hhX7L3Q
Reefer Madness / Tell Your Children (1936)
https://youtu.be/aYHDzrdXHEA

[Holdrüholoheuho]

The CooCoo Nut Grove (1936)
A visit to a Hollywood nightclub, featuring caricatures of, among others, Walter Winchell, Hugh Herbert, W.C. Fields, Katharine Hepburn, Ned Sparks, Johnny Weissmuller, Lupe Velez, John Barrymore, Harpo Marx, George Arliss, 'Mae West' , Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy, Clark Gable, Edna May Oliver, Gary Cooper, The Dionne Quintuplets, Groucho Marx, Helen Morgan, Wallace Beery, 'Edward G. Robinson' and George Raft.
https://youtu.be/fSfiMICQBaU

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Rhythmitis (1936)
https://youtu.be/WChABBHDms4

[sally]

anyone else seen gerard rutten's rubber? think they blew the entire budget on the ending, and it's a strange little film, but featured a classic 'stock market montage' and it made me wonder when that stopped being a thing. anyone recall the most recently made movie they've seen one in?

also does anyone have an srt for bloodshed on wolf mountain?

[rischka]

https://we.tl/t-VDr3GcvKE6

try this

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Choose your favorite films from 1936 (according to IMDb).

are the following two films out of the poll even though IMDb dates (2000, 1940) are obviously nonsensical?
https://letterboxd.com/film/jeune-fille-au-jardin/ (1936) vs. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0233977/ (2000)
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-fountain-of-arethusa/ (1936) vs. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0233739/ (1940)

https://youtu.be/Zbd_Cl8ytnU
https://youtu.be/NC57_eaffv4

[brian d]

thanks for both of those. i'm intrigued by the presentation of the musicians before the "action" of the film takes place. do you know of any earlier examples of films that do this, or was it something kirsanoff seems to have been playing with on his own?

[greennui]

Very brief impressions:

Desire - A Lubitsch film without Lubitsch and his touch. The elements/tone didn't quite gel for me.

The Devil-Doll - Kinda neat but also kinda slight.

Mr. Deeds Goes to Town - Likeable enough.

Sabotage - I never knew that Sabotage and Saboteur were two different films. Hitch didn't like the leading actor and I can see why, so bland I almost forgot how his face looked in-between scenes.

Show Boat - I've heard the audio of Paul Robeson singing Ol' Man River before but seeing him performing it in this film had me shook. Made everything happening before and after quite insignificant.

Things to Come - Things that'll put you to sleep = this film. When I dozed off some dull war drama was going on and when I woke up some dour science fiction thing was going on, Duck Dodgers played straight. I'm not sure if any of the actors maintained eye contact at any point throughout the film, they were mostly preaching and staring off into the distance.

[Holdrüholoheuho]

do you know of any earlier examples of films that do this, or was it something kirsanoff seems to have been playing with on his own?

i only know "the cradles" (1935) https://letterboxd.com/film/the-cradles/ is part of the "trilogy". otherwise, it is a poll-related fresh-new discovery and further details have yet to be investigated in any case, i am going to vote for both (even though they might get disqualified for poll due to IMDb's sabotage).

[Holdrüholoheuho]

seems like a lot of dancing was captured on the film stock in 1936...

https://youtu.be/WbGGReyRxh0

[greennui]

thanks for both of those. i'm intrigued by the presentation of the musicians before the "action" of the film takes place. do you know of any earlier examples of films that do this, or was it something kirsanoff seems to have been playing with on his own?

Here's a sort of similar short by Walter Ruttmann from 1931.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6oo271rapo&t

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Here's a sort of similar short by Walter Ruttmann from 1931.

great! thx.

[sally]

https://we.tl/t-VDr3GcvKE6

try this

perfect thanks

[Holdrüholoheuho]

there is one specific peculiar detail i (somehow) noticed while watching films from 1936 which (somewhat) bothers my mind why such unrelated characters like the caricature of Edna May Oliver in "The CooCoo Nut Grove" and Mickey's rival in "Mickey's Rival" indulge in the same strange way of action of rubbing their asses with red scarf while dancing (Edna) or dance-walking (rival) was this just some common hype whim of 1936 dancefloor or if not, what subliminal message the viewer in 1936 was thus getting

[brian d]

Here's a sort of similar short by Walter Ruttmann from 1931.

thanks very much. i'm intrigued by this idea of the musician(s) featuring before the feature starts, like it's calling into question what the film is really about. in the case of in der nacht, like with jeunne fille au jardin, it seems to be more the music or the musician since there isn't really plot per se, while in the fountain of arethusa it would be the mythic story playing out, even though the structure is fundamentally the same for the two kirsanoff films. it always brings me back to rivette (of course, i'm always connecting everything to rivette) but it's neat to see films from the 30s that present this idea also.

[Holdrüholoheuho]

Máj / May (E.F. Burian, Čeněk Zahradníček)
made in Bohemia in 1936 (silent, no dialogue)...

https://youtu.be/sg3caRJCaQs

(May was filmed as a backdrop to part of a theatre performance D36-D37 under the E. F. Burian's lead inspired by the classic Czech poem of the same name by Karel Hynek Macha.)

May by Macha in English → https://www.lupomesky.cz/maj/may.html
Late evening, on the first of May—
The twilit May—the time of love.
Meltingly called the turtle-dove,
Where rich and sweet pinewoods lay.
Whispered of love the mosses frail,
The flowering tree as sweetly lied,
The rose's fragrant sigh replied
To love-songs of the nightingale.
In shadowy woods the burnished lake
Darkly complained a secret pain,
By circling shores embraced again;
And heaven's clear sun leaned down to take
A road astray in azure deeps,
Like burning tears the lover weeps. ........ etc. etc. etc.

additional note: Visually similar film by the same authors (E.F. Burian, Čeněk Zahradníček) from the same year (1936) called "Spring's Awaking / Procitnutí jara" is available on KG.

[rischka]

wow jiri what a great find! i thought it was outtakes from that madonna sex movie lol. btw i saw something in club de femmes that reminded me of you

[Holdrüholoheuho]

i saw something in club de femmes that reminded me of you

which reminds me of you once saying...

Apr 25, 2014, jiri's knitting circle is the most popular thread on the forum!!

i still nurture my pride and self-esteem from this memorable claim!

[rischka]

gonna watch ceiling zero, a howard hawks joint

[Lencho of the Apes]

i'm watching

Damn right you are.

i'm intrigued

I haven't even looked at them, so I can't say anything about meaning or structuralist implications, but there's apparently a companion piece, also Kirsanoff/1936, that seemed to be only a documentation of musicians playing what they played. On YT they'redistinguished from each other as F d Arethusa1 and Arethusa 2.

[brian d]

i'm intrigued

I haven't even looked at them, so I can't say anything about meaning or structuralist implications, but there's apparently a companion piece, also Kirsanoff/1936, that seemed to be only a documentation of musicians playing what they played. On YT they'redistinguished from each other as F d Arethusa1 and Arethusa 2.

thanks! if i keep my watchlist to 10 minute shorts instead of lav diaz films i can actually feel like i've kept up with the poll