1980 poll

[rischka]

i will never forgive bd for using gabor body to knock out my pick of isao takahata in a dc years back on mubi. never!

oh, i do remember the movie you showed with the raccoons who fly using their scrotums. definitely a memorable flick.

discovery of my favorite anime pom poko so it was all worth it thoxans

[St. Gloede]

Wait, Narcissus and Psyche has 3 no. 1 votes, but no one else has it on their lists?

It looks great but it's like ridiculously long, right? I feel that with movies like that it's more of a binary outcome - you either see it and love it deeply or think it's a waste of time.

There is certainly a lot of truth in that, though it is split into 3 parts if you don't want to see it in one sitting.

I think the 4-hour length can also scare people away, especially as Gabor Body died after completing just 3 features, and not leaving behind more shorter films to get people invested.

Still, if you want a bizarre visual feast of an epic I think it is hard to go wrong.

[MrCarmady]

Yeah, I'm a little bit scared but also very intrigued. Maybe instead of trying to watch loads for this poll I will focus on a few big ones instead.

[Silga]

Provisional list:

1. American Gigolo (Paul Schrader)

The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)
The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner)
Atlantic City (Louis Malle)
Stardust Memories (Woody Allen)
Just Tell Me What You Want (Sidney Lumet)
Hopscotch (Ronald Neame)
Used Cars (Robert Zemeckis)
Maniac (William Lustig)
Loulou (Maurice Pialat)
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)
The Fog (John Carpenter)
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma)

[pabs]

1. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Fassbinder)

The Shining (Kubrick)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)
Atlantic City (Malle)




Watched for this poll:


Pepi, Luci, Bom
Un étrange voyage (Cavalier) - watched this one by mistake, thinking it was 1980 but it was from 1981. It wouldn't have made it onto my final list even if it had been a 1980 film.


Watchlist:

Gloria (Cassavetes)
Heaven’s Gate (Cimino)
Kagemusha (Kurosawa)
Larisa (Klimov)
Esthappan.aka.Stephen.(Aravindan)
Kingdom Of Diamonds/Hirak Rajar Deshe (Ray)
Pepi, Luci, Bom y otras chicas del monton (Almodovar)
Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (Hark)
Melodrama (Panayotopoulos)

[rischka]

don't have narcissus and psyche but i do have a magnificent restored copy of esthappan, will do a thing

[Umbugbene]

Too bad the Hungarian Film Archive took down its video collection on June 15. Narcissus and Psyche was there, along with many important classics. I still regret the ones I missed, including three by Márta Mészáros.

[nrh]

this poll will be very good excuse to do double bill of simone barbes and vecchiali's sort of sequel from same year which just got english subs

[karl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXSABiXibPg

[karl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwozSLas8DM

[karl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgmy6Ke_xQY

[St. Gloede]

Yeah, I'm a little bit scared but also very intrigued. Maybe instead of trying to watch loads for this poll I will focus on a few big ones instead.

Cheers, hope you go for it and enjoy it as much as us.

[therouxxx]

Found Narcissus and Psyche somewhere on internet, copy looks good. lmk if anyone wants

[greennui]

C’est la vie! (Paul Vecchiali) - Golden 80's by way of open-air theatre.

[ralch]

1. Kagemusha — A. Kurosawa

Airplane! — D. & J. Zucker, J. Abrahams
Atlantic City — L. Malle
Bye Bye Brazil — C. Diegues
Death Watch — B. Tavernier
The Elephant Man — D. Lynch
The Empire Strikes Back — I. Kershner
Gloria — J. Cassavetes
O Homem que Virou Suco / The Man that Was Turned Into Juice — J. Batista de Andrade
Mon oncle d'Amerique — A. Resnais
El nido / The Nest — J. de Armiñán
Oblomov — N. Mikhalkov
Ordinary People — R. Redford
Raging Bull — M. Scorsese
Resurrection — D. Petrie
The Shining — S. Kubrick
Stardust Memories — W. Allen
The Stunt Man — R. Rush
Taxi zum Klo — F. Ripploh
Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe — L. Blank

[nrh]

rewatched marie-claude treilhousimone barbes, and it's wonderful to see this movie in a much better version. and it's still a great film, just this totally unique character portrait that also doubles as this portrait of private/public urban spaces, both the porn theater where the two women work and the lesbian bar where simone fruitlessly waits for her girlfriend to leave her shift. and then it opens up (or closes down?) for that lovely melancholy car ride with michel delahaye, who makes one gesture with a mustache that ranks as one of the smallest and saddest i can think of in a film.

C’est la vie! (Paul Vecchiali) - Golden 80's by way of open-air theatre.

simone only shows up a bit in vecchiali's film but it's like seeing an old friend. the film is even stranger than greenui post makes it sound -
it is almost entirely set in a single apartment, which here is a 3-walled set built on a hill among a bunch of towering housing estate buildings. there is constant choreographed movement in the background through the open window, and the camera makes frequent lateral tracking moves, tracking across a bright red curtain, to emerge into the outside.

it's all kind of a delirious series of monologues, duets, and breakdowns by chantal delsaux's vaguely mad ginette, and somehow the formal conceit makes it both as convincing a personal headspace as femme femme and a totally convincing portrait of the bustling life of a housing estate.

[greennui]

I really liked the use of natural light in C’est la vie.

The actress who played Simone Barbes shows up as the bartender of a lesbian cabaret bar in Knife + Heart (2018). An aging Simone Barbes perhaps, the film was no doubt a huge influence on Knife + Heart, especially the lesbian nightclub scenes.

[nrh]

simone barbes or virtue (marie-claude treilhou)
c'est la vie (paul vecchiali)
the sword (patrick tam)
killer constable (kuei chih-hung)
sparsh (sai paranjpe)
melvin and howard (jonathan demme)
khoobsurat (hrishikesh mukherjee)
hirak rajar deshe (satyajit ray)
varumayin niram sivappu (k. balachander)
the best to die (toru murakawa)
target (toru murakawa)
the falls (peter greenaway)
merry-go-round (jacques rivette)
zigeunerweisen (seijun suzuki)
dangerous encounters of the first kind (hark tsui)
american gigolo (paul schrader)
return to the 36th chamber (lau kar-leung)
bat without wings (chor yuen)
murattu kaalai (s.p. muthuraman)

have a lot to watch including most of the big indian parallel cinema stuff.

still angry there are no subs for moodu pani since it's one of my favorite raja soundtracks -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEqmumN7tkA

[karl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zr2ROqVZ0

All of 23 people on Letterboxd have seen this Yuri Ilyenko film.

[karl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s51EKM6i7Ys

[mesnalty]

Just realized Alexander the Great is from 1980 and now there's another super-long movie on my watchlist. Thank god I've already seen Berlin Alexanderplatz.

[ofrene]

on watchlist, there are Kagemusha, The Falls, Alexander the Great, Berlin Alexanderplatz.. there are too long!! (like long movie but...)

Loved this shorts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRVncgt ... =emb_title

[flip]

thanks karl! who's singin' over there was outstanding, will try to watch the zanussi, ilyenko and kwon-taek films this month for sure

[sally]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zr2ROqVZ0

All of 23 people on Letterboxd have seen this Yuri Ilyenko film.

THAT'S CUZ I NEVER KNEW IT HAD SUBTITLES! karl you're killing me, i said i'd only watch 5 films for this poll and that's not gonna happen now

could anyone make c'est la vie available?

watched the muratova, lovely but she chose the dope. i wouldn't have chosen the dope but then my relationships tend not to be allegorically determined. (more like determined by nihilistic entropy, but nevermind)

[greennui]

This poll inspired me to yet again seek out a piece of music from the Cruising soundtrack that I enjoyed but couldn't find anywhere, the orignal soundtrack release didn't include the complete film music but a new release from just last year featured the entire score, and this piece. Yay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J39RM5RJcc

[nrh]

could anyone make c'est la vie available?

added to the year poll watchlists thread

[therouxxx]

added to the year poll watchlists thread

Can someone send me the password to Resources? I'd like to see the Vecchiali too..

[sally]

could anyone make c'est la vie available?

added to the year poll watchlists thread

wow thanks! ♥ that's lightspeed internet or something. takes me 3 hours to upload 1gb.

[therouxxx]

Got it

[St. Gloede]

Love Between the Raindrops (1980, Karel Kachyna)



Composed as a coming of age symphony in 6 movements, Love Between the Raindrops[is one of Kachyna's most playful and creative. We switch between rapid editing, and long, often moving takes, showcasing all of Kachyna's strengths as a director. Once again he mixes colour, black and white and sepia, memories, dreams and exaggeration, bonding, pain, lust and metaphors. In some ways it could be said to be a Czech Amarcord, though, ironically given its structure - more focused - with the entire film narrated and focused on a young boy living with his widowed, drunken father and older brother.

Each movement starts with hectic editing, the early movements in particular opening in a seemingly unrelated night club, framed by sons, gags, masks and lead by a mysterious host - often intercutting characters from our story - and creating so many moments of "echoes", where minor characters with specific traits can be elevated simply by the small things they do: One example - in cuts from the father's local bar, there will be a man who in a quick cut or two does a trick or two - as the years pass you will see him do another, and another - all interwoven in a greater whole. 

This can be so hectic and beautiful that it could almost be a Jakubisko film, but it is, despite bleaker moments, also far more soft and human. It is so interesting that it manages to spin this story together, covering everything from youthful lust to first love - and get so many characters out of it to truly stand out and shine. The father, brother, love interest - even the old men occasionally watching them, are given so much personality - all these little moments played for jokes (some childish) but also with heart, sombre over and undertones - and a sense of almost catching every emotion of the human spectrum. Friendly and familiar, stark and bleak - all wrapped into one - and brought together as quite the glorious symphony.
A surprise stroke of genius, and one of the best films I have seen all year.

9/10