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1. Sátántangó
2. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
3. Whispering Pages
4. Through the Olive Trees

Should I include Parts 1-4 of The Kingdom (Riget) by Lars von Trier? It would be #1 on my list, but I prefer to group all 8 parts as one film completed in 1997.
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Portrait of a Young Girl at the End of the '60s in Brussels

US Go Home
Barcelona
Through the olive trees
Satantango
Hoop Dreams
London
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Passions (Kira Muratova)

and in no particular order:

Casa de lava (Pedro Costa)
Palms (Artour Aristakisian)
Castle (Aleksey Balabanov)
JLG/JLG: Self-Portrait in December (Jean-Luc Godard)
Satantango (Bela Tarr)
U.S. go home (Claire Denis)
Whispering Pages (Aleksandr Sokurov)
I Stayed in Berlin all Summer (Angela Schanelec)
Fate (Fred Kelemen)
Blue (Marc & Eric Hurtado)
Through the Olive Trees (Abbas Kiarostami)
Vive L' Amour (Ming-liang Tsai)
I Can't Sleep (Claire Denis)
Father, Son and Holy War (Anand Patwardhan)
London (Patrick Keiller)
Lothringen! (Daniele Huillet & Jean-Marie Straub)
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my last unseen yang :cry:

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a bunch of wealthy creative types without a clue how to relate to each other. of course it's in the list. and check out the giant 90s mobile phone :lol:
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1. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino)

Ashes of Time (Wong Kar-wai)
Barcelona (Whit Stillman)
Chungking Express (Wong Kar-wai)
Vive l'amour (Tsai Ming-liang)
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That Yang one is a pretty ordinary attempt at a 'comedy'. Very overrated film maker.

Why are people voting for On Deadly Ground? That is about as close to an objectively bad film as you can get from 94, unless you are a huge fan of Seagal. It's terribly made.


1.Ed Wood (Burton)

Satantango (Tarr)
Crumb (Zwigoff)
Whispering Pages (Sokurov)
Pulp Fiction (Tarantino)
Natural Born Killers (Stone)
Through the Olive Trees (Kiarostami)
Red (Kieslowski)
Little Odessa (Gray)
Quiz Show (Redford)
Cobb (Shelton)
In The Mouth of Madness (Carpenter)
Leon: The Professional (Besson)
Casa De Lava (Costa)
Crooklyn (Lee)
Chungking Express (WKW)
The Shadow (Mulcahy: for its style)
Naked Gun 33 1/3 (Segal)

Guilty pleasures: The Specialist and Color of Night.

Yet to see:

What Happened Was (Noonan)
Vive L'Amour (Tsai)
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(Burton) -- speaking of very overrated filmmakers
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^He is, but Ed Wood is a grand letter to cinema and the dreamers that operate within it.

I think there are degrees of being overrated. Burton is not taken that seriously as an artist whereas Yang is, despite the fact that, like Tsai, he is just making cliched alienation art films that seem more exotic due to culture differences.

Having said that, I love Yi Yi, which is Yang's most conventional film
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I, on the other hand, can't stand Yi Yi. But I love the other Yang I've seen. :P
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ED WOOD
SATANTANGO
CRUMB
QUEEN MARGOT
HEAVENLY CREATURES

In re: Burton, I can't say he's overrated, in that he seems to be so roundly detested by so many. For me, when he's good he's very good indeed, as in ED WOOD, BATMAN RETURNS (still the only Batman/comic book movie worth the time), and SWEENEY TODD -- the most intelligent musical film of the currrent renaissance of the genre. Alas, it's been too long since he did anything interesting -- even I could find virtually nothing in that Alice thing. We'll see about DUMBO, but my hopes aren't exactly high.

Now Whit Stillman. THAT's overrated.
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Really enjoying back to back face to face, but the subtitles take some creative interpreting

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okay what the hell happened to mario, he's the only one on here i think that's seen the above, and he didn't like it. i thought it's one of the best tragi-tragi-comedies of communist bureaucracy that i've seen. there was a lovely rhythm to the 2 1/2 hours, with shots of the beautiful old graceful architecture poignantly/ironically marking time to the circles the position-wranglers were plotting in. etc etc.
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our newest member: mario gaborovic :D
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Through the Olive Trees

Lamerica
A Borrowed Life
Vive L'amour
To Live
The Taebaek Mountains (Im Kwon-taek)
Drunken Master II
Red Firecracker, Green Firecracker
We the Children of the XX Century (Vitaly Kanevsky)
In the Heat of the Sun
An Unforgettable Summer (Lucian Pintilie)
Burnt by the Sun
Charachar
Silences of the Palace
The Goat Horn (Nikolai Volev)
Exotica
I Can't Sleep
Vidheyan (Adoor Gopalakrishnan)
The Return (Dang Nhat Minh)
Sanabi (Aribam Syam Sharma)



Might would see if'n I had the time, but I'm moving countries again and it's been nothing but headache so it's right bloody unlikely:

Passions (Muratova)
Ermo
Last Station (Harutyun Khachatryan)
Evenings near Moscow (Valeriy Todorovskiy)
The Cow (Karel Kachyna)
Yunnan Story (Zhang Nuanxing)
Letter to an Angel (Garin Nugroho)
A Wind from Wyoming (André Forcier)

Yes, yes, it's nice to see (?) you again too, my fellow superchumps.
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missed you karl :D
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karl! hope all's been well with you
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Pulp Fiction was easily my favourite film at the time but it has diminished a bit over the years.

Little Odessa
Pulp Fiction
Natural Born Killers
Once Were Warriors
Leon: The Profesional
Hoop Dreams
Heavenly Creatures
Quiz How
Amateur
Cobb
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Four Weddings and a Funeral

Bab El Oued City
Canción de cuna (Cradle Song)
Dellamorte Dellamore (Cemetery Man)
Ed Wood
Exotica
Huozhe (To Live)
Il postino (The Postman)
J'ai pas sommeil (I Can't Sleep)
Les roseaux sauvages (Wild Reeds)
Little Women
Nattevagten (Nightwatch)
Nobody's Fool
Once Were Warriors
Quiz Show
Speed
The Last Seduction
The Puppet Masters
Tian guo ni zi (The Day the Sun Turned Cold)
Yin shi nan un (Eat Drink Man Woman)

Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500)
Ai qing wan sui
Andaz Apna Apna
Chung Hing sam lam
Forrest Gump
Léon
Pulp Fiction
Sátántangó
The Lion King
The Shawshank Redemption
Trois couleurs: Rouge
Zire darakhatan zeyton

To see before the deadline
Fatima Buen Story
Pao Da Shuang Deng

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has anyone got le franc?
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I have Le Franc, though I'm unsure how to get it to you. It's also available to stream for a couple bucks on Vimeo or for free on Kanopy.
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i'll pay a couple of bucks, what's the vimeo link? google isn't coming up with it...
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https://vimeo.com/ondemand/talesofordinarypeople/. It appears you have to also rent La petite vendeuse de Soleil at the same time, which is inconvenient.

Edit: And that source is only available to US and Canada. Alas.
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flip wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:53 pm karl! hope all's been well with you
i had a pretty rough 2018, flip. i don't recommend trying to start a business in uzbekistan. or tajikstan, either, for that matter.

but now movin' on, tryin' somethin' new. gonna tryn get them good vibes back. life is easy and fun, or ought to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21j_OCNLuYg
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Evelyn wrote: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:03 pm https://vimeo.com/ondemand/talesofordinarypeople/. It appears you have to also rent La petite vendeuse de Soleil at the same time, which is inconvenient.

Edit: And that source is only available to US and Canada. Alas.
Alas indeed. Nevermind, I have plenty of other stuff to watch, if not from 1994. Thanks for trying!
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twodeadmagpies wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:42 pm okay what the hell happened to mario, he's the only one on here i think that's seen the above, and he didn't like it. i thought it's one of the best tragi-tragi-comedies of communist bureaucracy that i've seen. there was a lovely rhythm to the 2 1/2 hours, with shots of the beautiful old graceful architecture poignantly/ironically marking time to the circles the position-wranglers were plotting in. etc etc.
Been busy lately; I found a job as a minibus driver which I'll use as a springboard to drive heavy trucks in Germany (and get use to vehicle size, earn money for international traffic license & ADR, etc). I got C/CE back in 2003 and then D category in 2008, but only now I make money from it.

As you might not know, I couldn't do shit with college diploma in tourism, so I believe that only making business in Uzbekistan is sillier than my attempt over here.

I was also listening to more music lately, rather than watching films.

Can't remember much but the flatness of that Chinese flick and lots of blue collar uniforms.
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Tian guo ni zi (The Day the Sun Turned Cold) -- this is on youtube and it's really excellent
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lots of good chinese language stuff from this year. i watched in the heat of the sun and was really into it -- until a certain turn of events which i won't spoil here

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now i'm watching back to back, face to face. the subs are distracting but it's also hilarious. then i plan to watch ermo :D
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Post by Silga »

Watched two 1994 entries, but both won't make it to the final list.

Don't Drink the Water (Woody Allen, 1994) 6/10

One of the weakest from Woody for sure, but it still delivers some quality jokes here and there + it stars Julie Kavner.


Against the Wall (John Frankenheimer, 1994) 5/10

Frankenheimer's film about the Attica Prison riot has a lot of promise and good acting - Samuel L. Jackson is at his usual form, but it is Clarence Williams III who steals every scene. However, it ends up with the same muddled direction as Frankenheimer's films are known to suffer from.

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Casa de Lava (Pedro Costa)

Vive L’Amour (Tsai Ming-liang)
Crooklyn (Spike Lee)
JLG/JLG – Self-Portrait in December (Jean-Luc Godard)
London (Patrick Keiller)
Portrait of a Young Girl at the End of the ’60s in Brussels (Chantal Akerman)
Metal and Melancholy (Heddy Honigmann)
Cortázar (Tristán Bauer)
The Freethinker (Peter Watkins)
Blind Man’s Bluff (Manoel de Oliveira)
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Likely final list, though I might change something before the end of the poll.

Through the Olive Trees
Sister My Sister
Le Franc
Vive L'Amour
Being Human
Ashes of Time
Cold Water
To Live
The Glass Shield
A Confucian Confusion
Crooklyn
Wild Reeds
The Wooden Man's Bride
Farinelli
New Nightmare
47 Ronin
Love on Delivery
Eat Drink Man Woman
Legend of the Drunken Master
Cabin Boy
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