1983 Poll 2.0

[St. Gloede]

so a nous amours has fallen out of favor now? and yet it's pialat's most popular film at letterboxd

hmmm...

Very odd development if so, might just be the voters so far. I really like it myself, but I saw it at a time when I was not yet intuned to more bareboned bleak stories like this, and I grew to love many of Pialat's films since, with The Mouth Agape (possibly his coldest) now being my favourite. I might be tempted to rewatch A nous amours for this poll.

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I have also set up a watchlist for myself, tallying up to 44 films, no way I'm seeing all, probably more like 5-10, but good start. The Sky on Location is my top priority at the moment. Never seen any of her films (I have What Maisie Knew), so nice prompt, as well as Carmen, Der rechte Weg and My Memories of Old Beijing.

So many tempting films.

[rischka]

letterboxd explained easily enough - it's about a young girl's sexual experiences after all i may watch it again too.

about the keep - i read this was drastically cut from it's original form which explains a lot. there are some great visuals and ofc scott glenn and ian mckellan to keep you watching. the plot seems to make little sense and the mix is so bad i couldn't distinguish a lot of the dialogue - there were no subtitles but i can see the attraction. no hope of a 'director's cut' ?? speaking of sexual experiences, what a random hookup! then i thought maybe he hypnotized her hmm

[nrh]

in the words of lencho: um...

mann has more or less disowned the movie; i've never been sure if he just doesn't like the movie or finds what happened to it painful. someone asked him about it at a q&a i was at (for a different movie) and he kind of mumbled something about unfinished effects and wanted to change the subject, so i guess we'll never get the famous 3 hour directors cut...

in a weird way i think the studio ruthlessly cutting stuff out might not have been a bad thing, since the source novels proto highlander immortal being stuff is goofy in a totally different way than the final movie is goofy.

[St. Gloede]

The Sky on Location was beautiful, fascinating and poetic. Did not quite love it, for similar reasons as to why I often just end up liking Benning, but the added multi-narrators and quotes were very nice touches.

[Lencho of the Apes]

[rischka]

brussels by night makes it into my list. i think i have sally to thank for this one. it's like in the white city gone horribly wrong

[St. Gloede]

This one looks stunning, never heard of it before.

[sally]

Yes!!! I'm so glad someone watched it love all those night diner shots, very atmospheric

[niminy-piminy]

besides THE RIGHT WAY (Peter Fischli, David Weiss),
this is the most hilarious "road trip" of 1983.
believe me and play it!


THE WEATHER FORECAST (Antoni Krauze, 1983)

The residents of an old people's home anxiously watch television weather forecasts that predict a hard winter.


When a huge transport of coffins arrives in the same night, the old people start to suspect that someone is preparing a mass death for them. In solidarity, they decide to escape and... go out to the country.


They are followed by a police chase, which at times resembles a manhunt.


The film, made in 1981/82, unexpectedly became a metaphor for the Polish history of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Poland
Martial law in Poland existed between 13 December 1981 and 22 July 1983. The government of the Polish People's Republic drastically restricted everyday life by introducing martial law

[rischka]

No habrá más penas ni olvido/funny dirty little war (d. héctor olivera) very funny and a little disturbing in its echoes in the present day

dunno this director, whose popular films include wizards of the lost kingdom, barbarian queen and cocaine wars but this thing is a stone classic. found via sight & sound 75 hidden gems list. that perón was one shifty cabrón

[rischka]

lencho watch this movie ^^ (she suggested politely)

[rischka]

i'm going to believe jiri and check the weather forecast

[Lencho of the Apes]

NHMPNO,I'll look around for it.

[rischka]

i'm placing it in the place

[niminy-piminy]

i'm going to believe jiri and check the weather forecast

"You must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind." (James 1:6)
Any eventual expressions of gratitude should go to Sally who discovered this gem!

[rischka]

love how it turns to color as soon as they're outside thx SALLY it is a DELIGHT

[sally]

i had funny dirty little war on my watchlist too....grabbing it!

[rischka]

nash vek (mer dare)/our century (d. artavazd peleshian) - for all mankind soviet montage freestyle. it was beautiful

[rischka]

lencho called me NHMPNO is that allowed here

[Lencho of the Apes]

Would it be better if I said FDLW?

[rischka]

what a bunch of squares

[Lencho of the Apes]

NHMPNO... Um. I liked it, I enjoyed it, it was funny... but the political satire dimension on display here, I can't trust it blindly -- That studio, Aries Cinematografica, has never made a movie I could even remotely tolerate before this, nothing but an endless stream of late seventies garbage -- jiggle comedies with that fat guy from television and incredibly insipid boys-meet-the-girls musicals with tv-show pop-stars and gimmicks like roller-disco as narrative hooks. It's as though during the worst of the A. dictatorship they were conscientiously doing exactly and only the kind of inoffensive, anodyne brain-flush that the powers that be were comfortable with. So now a few years later, they're addressing an issue of some kind from some political position or other, but they're not working from any kind of moral high point that I can recognize, so this could be fascists defending the status quo as easily as anything else it might represent. I'd have to investigate more deeplier before I could endorse it, but the bits with the two alcoholics and their pschitt machine were cute, if nothing else. (Also, that actor, that guy that played Fuentes... he pops up way more often than I'm interested in watching him.)

[rischka]

ok lencho that's fair enough. i would probably also be suspicious in that case i didn't do background research!

i could've been high but it did seem to me that the fascists were the bad guys? they were the ones burning people with cigarettes right.

peron's support was all over the place. god help us if such a canny populist arose here. with a film star wife! the script is writing itself

[rischka]

2 LA rebellion films: bless their little hearts



and my brother's wedding. this one will make my list, possibly both of them. gotta sit with them a bit



this might be my favorite burnett (aside from the casual sexual assault!)

[sally]

sunday pranks - robert gliński

this got banned for a few years, not surprisingly. stalin dies, the kids innocently enact horrific authoritarian games whilst their parents are off performing social obligations. children are ghastly.

with eng subs: https://35mm.online/en/vod/feature-films/sunday-plays

[Lencho of the Apes]

Yes,

the fascists were the bad guys

but there's still a lot to unpack. What's the movie's attitude toward Peronism? Seems to be "Peron was a good guy, but his return-from-exile reboot was full of fascists waiting to install themselves into power."Is that true, accurate,unbiased? Does it provide cover for some faction? Too many of what Cheney called "unknown unknowns." One of the Argentine writers on LB called it an "antiPeronist wet dream," which obviously could cut both ways...

[Lencho of the Apes]

OTOH, I'm all the way onboard for Obayashi's Legend Of The Cat Monster. It's barely even a cat-ghost movie, it's a cat-ghost Sunset Boulevard with metafictional moves that align it with something like Barton Fink,only very J-wave. It's also a Seijun Suzuki movie like Kagero-Za, only with the life/afterlife fantasy elements done in a really pulpy, tv-movie way.

[rischka]

ok i'll watch the cat monster - everything i've got left looks depressing

i thought peron was like mussolini, a true 'national socialist' who got to bypass the nasty racism by virtue of having no poc in his country. but i gathered that from wikipedia so i admit i have no idea of the truth of it. he certainly did a lot for labor rights early on so no surprise people loved him. mussolini (who was a very prominent socialist before inventing fascism!) was a huge influence on him. both had support on the left and the right

During his first presidential term (1946–1952), Perón was supported by his second wife, Eva Duarte ("Evita"): they were immensely popular among the Argentine working class. Perón's government invested heavily in public works, expanded social welfare, and forced employers to improve working conditions. Trade unions grew rapidly with his support and women's suffrage was granted with Eva's influence. On the other hand, dissidents were fired, exiled, arrested and tortured, and much of the press was closely controlled. Several high-profile war criminals, such as Josef Mengele, Adolf Eichmann and Ante Pavelić, were given refuge in Argentina during this time.

-- and it went downhill from there. i don't think the film portrayed him as a 'good guy' but rather someone whose supporters each saw what they wanted in him. and after his death the fascists ran with it (with our support ofc). but i don't know anything, i just thought it was funny :p

can't believe i get to hang out with you smart people. this is why i stopped writing at letterboxd. i don't think people should listen to me lol

but i'm still putting it in my list

[rischka]

i feel like appending 'sorry for the autism' to my signature but i'm not going to. but i am not trying to fight really

[Lencho of the Apes]

No, no, never felt like you were. I had some reservations about the movie's messaging, you weren't sure you shared them, so I clarified what I was suspicious of the best I could, and if you disagree with my "I don't know," that's perfectly fine.