1983 Poll 2.0

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Choose your favourite films from 1983 (according to IMDB).

Each person can vote for up to 20 films. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number.

Twenty-film ballots can be formatted as follows:
- Five tiers of four films each, 4/4/4/4/4; scored 5-4-3-2-1 pts/film/tier
- Four tiers of five films each, 5/5/5/5; scored 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5 pts/film/tier
- Two tiers of ten films each, 10/10; scored 4-2 pts/film/tier
- No tiers, unranked; scored 3 pts/film
- A 20-film three-tier ballot is not possible

A tiered ballot can include less than 20 films, but in that case the total number of films must still be able to be factored by the number of tiers, so:
- A five tier ballot can include only 20, 15, 10, or 5 films
- A four tier ballot can include only 20, 16, 12, 8, or 4 films
- A three tier ballot (scored 5-3-1) can include only 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films
- A two tier ballot can include only 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, or 2 films
- Ballots that are 19, 17, 13, 11, 7 or 1 films must be no tiers

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible, so that others can use them for recommendations. You may revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline.

Deadline for 1983 ballots will be Sunday, April 30th at roughly midnight EDT.
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Blue Mountains, or Unbelievable Story (Eldar Shengalaya)
Village in the Mist (Im Kwon-taek)
L'Argent (Robert Bresson)
Nostalgia (Andrei Tarkovsky)

The South (Victor Erice)
Hajji Washington (Ali Hatami)
The Big Chill (Lawrence Kasdan)
The Conflict (Garri Bardin)

Dimensions of Dialogue (Jan Svankmajer)
Special Bulletin (Edward Zwick)
Irani (Rogerio Sganzerla)
Film for Untitled Viewer (Joseph Bernard)

L'Homme a la Valise (Chantal Akerman)
And the Ship Sails On (Federico Fellini)
Zelig (Woody Allen)
A Christmas Story (Bob Clark)

The Very Late Afternoon of a Faun (Vera Chytilova)
Erendira (Ruy Guerra)
Deal of the Century (William Friedkin)
Quarterback Princess (Noel Black)
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1983 is just an insanely good year for me, with my top 3 all being in my top 100, and my number three being a standard best of the year film.

It is also a year that for me shows utter French dominance, even stronger than in the 60s. I'd be interested in seeing if that's a trend for other users here as well or if it is more of a testament to my viewing habits.

L'argent (1983, Robert Bresson)
Prénom Carmen / First Name: Carmen (1983, Jean-Luc Godard)
La belle captive / The Beautiful Prisoner (1983, Alain Robbe-Grillet)
Faunovo velmi pozdní odpoledne / The Very Late Afternoon of a Faun (1983, Vera Chytilová)

Pauline à la plage / Pauline at the Beach (1983, Éric Rohmer)
Skazka stranstviy / The Story of the Voyages (1983, Aleksandr Mitta)
Born in Flames (1983, Lizzie Borden)
Nostalghia (1983, Andrei Tarkovsky)

Balkan ekspres / Balkan Express (1983, Branko Baletic)
Tsisperi mtebi anu daujerebeli ambavi / Blue Mountains, or Unbelievable Story (1983, Eldar Shengelaia)
Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (1983, Nagisa Ôshima)
Eine Liebe in Deutschland / A Love in Germany (1983, Andrzej Wajda)

Tisícrocná vcela / The Millennial Bee (1983, Juraj Jakubisko)
Xiao Bi de gu shi / Growing Up (1983, Kun Hao Chen)
Dans la ville blanche / In the White City (1983, Alain Tanner)
Un jeu brutal (1983, Jean-Claude Brisseau)

Sans soleil / Without Sun (1983, Chris Marker)
Rumble Fish (1983, Francis Ford Coppola)
Les trois couronnes du matelot / Three Crowns of the Sailor (1983, Raoul Ruiz)
Háry János (1983, Zsolt Richly)
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a nous amours
my memories of old beijing
city of pirates
the boys from fengkuei
diary (perlov)
three crowns of the sailor
that day on the beach
l'argent
el sur
ballad of narayama
dans la ville blanche
local hero
born in flames
all the king's men
der rechte weg
angst
the sky on location
zu warriors of the magic mountain
the right stuff
the boxer's omen

i have more to watch - will organize later!~
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sans soleil - chris marker
dans la ville blanche - alain tanner
l'argent - robert bresson
brussels by night - marc didden
norwood - patrick keiller
the return of a library lover - raúl ruiz
der rechte weg - fischli/weiss
the gold diggers - sally potter
city of pirates - raúl ruiz
hajji washington - ali hatami
an uneventful story - wojciech has
ah ying - allen fong
the sky on location - babette mangolte
the power of emotion - alexander kluge
katha - sai paranjape
my memories of old beijing - wu yigong
how i was systematically destroyed by idiots - slobodan šijan
ghost dance - ken mcmullen
blue mountains, or unbelievable story - eldar shengelaia
life is a bed of roses - alain resnais


i have the makioka sisters from some cup or something, but a quick look, and it looked like in close-up shots the top of everyone's head is cut off. can anyone tell me if it is meant to be like that? google image searching isn't clear....
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Carmen (Carlos Saura)
The Dead Zone (David Cronenberg)
El Sur (Victor Erice)
Holy Flame of the Martial World (Tony Lou Chun-Ku)
The Hunger (Tony Scott)
L’argent (Robert Bresson)
The Makioka Sisters (Kon Ichikawa)
Man of Flowers (Paul Cox)
The Millennial Bee (Juraj Jakubisko)
Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life (Terry Jones)
The Moon in the Gutter (Jean-Jacques Beineix)
Nostalghia (Andrei Tarkovsky)
Pauline at the Beach (Eric Rohmer)
Rumble Fish (Francis Ford Coppola)
Sleepaway Camp (Robert Hiltzik)
Utopia (Sohrab Shahid Saless)
 
Want to watch:
 
Born in Flames (Lizzie Borden)
Entre nous (Diane Kurys)
Heat and Dust (James Ivory)
In the White City (Alain Tanner)
Local Hero (Bill Forsyth)
My Brother’s Wedding (Charles Burnett)
Project A (Jackie Chan)
A Railway Station for Two (Eldar Ryazanov)
Star 80 (Bob Fosse)
Streamers (Robert Altman)
Variety (Bette Gordon)
Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain (Tsui Hark)
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the little girl who conquered time (obayashi)

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straightforward and sweet until the psychedelic effects kick in. i liked it
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Meantime (Mike Leigh)
The Beautiful Prisoner (Alain Robbe-Grillet)
Pauline at the Beach (Éric Rohmer)
Bless Their Little Hearts (Billy Woodberry)

The Education of a Man (Uzmaan Saparov)
Born in Flames (Lizzie Borden)
A Christmas Story (Bob Clark)
A Brutal Game (Jean-Claude Brisseau)

Our Century (Artavazd Peleshian)
Blue Mountains, or Unbelievable Story (Eldar Shengalaya)
Rumble Fish (Francis Ford Coppola)
Variety (Bette Gordon)

42/83: No Film (Kurt Kren)
The Little Shepherd Boy from the Valley (František Vláčil)
A Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat)
The Big Chill (Lawrence Kasdan)

Scarface (Brian de Palma)
Sans Soleil (Chris Marker)
L'Argent (Robert Bresson)
Brainstorm (Douglas Trumbull)
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Prelims:

Angst
Born In Flames- Borden
Christine - Carpenter
City Of Pirates - Ruiz
The Dead Zone
The Gold Diggers -
Nostalgia - tarkovsky
The Right Way
Three Crowns Of A Sailor
Utopia - Saless
Videodrome - Cronenberg
The opposite of 'reify' is... ?
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I've gotta keep an eye out for expanding this year... Still haven't seen the Rohmer, but the best films from this year, for me, are films I find interesting but still cannot embrace fully for one reason or another.

Variety - Bette Gordon
My Brother's Wedding - Charles Burnett
Videodrome - David Cronenberg
Sans Soleil - Chris Marker
Dark Habits - Pedro Almodovar
Eureka - Nicholas Roeg
Lianna - John Sayles
Sunday Pranks - Robert Glinski
Prenom, Carmen - Jean-Luc Godard
City of Pirates - Raul Ruiz
Unguided Tour - Susan Sontag
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City of Pirates 1983 ‘La Ville des pirates’ Directed by Raúl Ruiz
First Name: Carmen 1983 ‘Prénom Carmen’ Directed by Jean-Luc Godard
Meantime 1983 Directed by Mike Leigh
In the White City 1983 ‘Dans la ville blanche’ Directed by Alain Tanner
Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence 1983 ‘戦場のメリークリスマス’ Directed by Nagisa Ōshima
The 4th Man 1983 ‘De vierde man’ Directed by Paul Verhoeven
Pauline at the Beach 1983 ‘Pauline à la plage’ Directed by Éric Rohmer
Videodrome 1983 Directed by David Cronenberg
L’Eau de la Seine 1983 Directed by Teo Hernández'
Lianna 1983 Directed by John Sayles

That Day, on the Beach 1983 ‘海灘的一天’ Directed by Edward Yang
Sacré-Coeur 1983 Directed by Teo Hernández
Style Wars 1983 Directed by Tony Silver
Hell 1983 ‘Põrgu’ Directed by Rein Raamat
Black Wax 1983 Directed by Robert Mugge
El sur 1983 Directed by Víctor Erice
The Sky on Location 1983 Directed by Babette Mangolte
Possibly in Michigan 1983 Directed by Cecelia Condit
Slow Moves 1983 Directed by Jon Jost
Three Crowns of the Sailor 1983 ‘Les Trois couronnes du matelot’ Directed by Raúl Ruiz
Angst 1983 Directed by Gerald Kargl
Sleepaway Camp 1983 Directed by Robert Hiltzik
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i watched barefoot gen so you don't have to. haven't cried that hard in a long time

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the family game is a deeply weird movie. is it supposed to be funny :|
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I believe so ... didn't work for me either.
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flip wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:15 pm L'Homme a la Valise (Chantal Akerman)
Watched this one three days ago. Mini-write-up:

The Man with the Suitcase is a farcical, almost dialogue-less comedy that could be seen as a sequel to Je Tu Il Elle (and The Meetings of Anna). Akerman plays herself, more overtly than the previous, as she returns home after having agreed to share her flat while away, and ends up stuck and hiding from her large, male roommate, not because he is any kind of threat, more because he's just there, in her space. Punctuated with title cards counting the days, as well as her resolutions, she hides in her bedroom and tries to avoid him at all costs. Much of the humour comes from quirky sped-up sequences where she hurries around the place trying to eat or do things while he's in the bathroom, or just going quietly mad in her room. An introvert's nightmare for sure. The signs of depression, including the same entirely sparse and messy living space, filled with trash, give a slightly more sad undertone as well, and serves as a very direct reminder of Je Tu Il Elle, though the atmosphere is completely different. A little slim as it clocks in at just about the hour, and quite lo-fi, but a cute and fun viewing I would highly recommend to all Akerman fans.

I also caught one of Akerman's other films from 1983, One Day, Pina Asked ..., which is a great collection of intriguing performance and rehearsal footage, mixed with some slightly less-than-inspired interviews. This is a film I really wish gave more, and which should have been able to do so, even if constrained by an ever shorter running time than The Man with the Suitcase. Thoroughly intriguing all the same mind you.
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City of Pirates was a revelatory point in my cinephila, being totally blown away by such an obscurity led me to search out for more obscurities which set me on a path to eventually finding this place, icmf, letterboxd, kg, hawkmenblues and whatnot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Vy6eGccEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqUwNkr-B3k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-pdC3bO_KI

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22m31v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEIjWxpcTFQ

https://ok.ru/video/3010550958778

Prenom Carmen is a film that didn't really blow me away on first watch but which I kept thinking about and keep returning to.

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Original song from 1983
It was released as a 12-inch single on 7 March 1983
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how blessed are we that this year saw the first in sammo's lucky stars series: winners & sinners. every 80s hong kong star is in this thing

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lots of very broad comedy, goofy stunts and corny music. and yuen biao gets to kick jackie chan in the face. so still funnier than the family game :?
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thx for those links greennui! somehow never seen style wars!
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greennui wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:27 pm Prenom Carmen is a film that didn't really blow me away on first watch but which I kept thinking about and keep returning to.

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A friend and I were having an argument/discussion on this film recently, as we saw and describe the film and its weaknesses in completely opposing ways. He sees the film as being about Godard being tricked by his niece and her lover to shoot a film that's really the heist, and felt like Godard was in the film too little. I see the film as primarily looking at the two lovers, with a humorous self-deprecating insertion of Godard, that may just lean a bit too much into silly comedy at times (i.e. the JLG scenes actually being a very slight weakness). Meanwhile, my friend did not feel the chemistry between the two lovers and wished their portion was cut down, while I have always thought both actors displayed incredible charisma and a rather raw chemistry that plays a big role in why the film works as well as it does.

Sidenote: I do feel like Godard in the 80s, in particular with his Trilogy of the Sublime (Passion, Prenom Carmen and Hail Mary) actually have many similarities to Bresson, particularly noticeable in his use of hands, how he strips certain things away and the way he searchers for some kind of more transcendental meaning within the images. Does anyone agree/see what I'm getting at? Hail Mary is probably the closest, as even the way it is edited and told, almost compressed story-wise has so many parallels with Bressons best.
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Sudden Impact (Clint Eastwood)
Last Night at the Alamo (Eagle Pennel)
Sagara Sangamam (K. Viswanath)
Berenice (Raul Ruiz)
Kandagawa Wars (Kiyoshi Kurosawa)

Three Crowns for the Sailor (Raul Ruiz)
All the King's Men (King Hu)
Katha (Sai Paranjape)
Dhrupad (Mani Kaul)
Jaane Bhi Do Yaaro (Kundan Shah)

Ardh Satya (Govind Nihalani)
P.P. Rider (Shinji Somai)
The Catch (Shinji Somai)
Phatik Chand (Sandip Ray*)
The Keep (Michael Mann)

Golgo 13: The Professional (Osamu Dezaki)
L'Argent (Robert Bresson)
Scarface (Brian DePalma)
Petites notes à propos du film 'Je vous salue, Marie' (Jean-Luc Godard)
My Brother's Wedding (Charles Burnett)

*pretty sure this was largely directed by his father satyajit ray, whatever the credits claim.

a lot that i need to see - vecchiali's en haut des marches, juliet berto's cap canaille, shyam benegal's mandi, obayashi's little girl who conquered time, manmohan desai's coolie, kichitaro negishi's detective story.

special mention to subhash ghai's hero -

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so a nous amours has fallen out of favor now? and yet it's pialat's most popular film at letterboxd

hmmm...
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ok i'm going to watch the keep
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rischka wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:38 pm ok i'm going to watch the keep
are you going to do one of the normal versions of the scan of the print?
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um? the one i have is a vhs rip. are there options??

edit: yes there are options. which should i choose?? there is a 35mm scan AND a dvd - i'm going with the dvd
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the vhs rip is terrible, i've seen the dvd which isn't great but honestly not all that worse than the 35mm print i saw last (which was not in great shape).

have heard good things about the 35mm scan, and it seems like ptp has a slightly smaller option with some fixes for brightness.
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oooh thx forgot to look there

these rewind polls are good if only to help me remember to upgrade :D

in honor of this historic day i'm now drinking a mimosa while listening to tangerine dream. i have a mango vape too :cowboy:

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in the words of lencho: um...
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