1913 Poll

[Lencho of the Apes]

Choose your favorite films from 1913 (according to IMDb).

– Each person votes for up to 20 movies. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number, if you're enthusiastic about fewer than twenty.
– Do not rank the films except the number 1, it gets two points..

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible so that others may use them for recommendations. You may, of course, revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline.

Ballots posted by new members who have not participated in other parts of the forum will not be counted.

Deadline for 1913 lists will be Monday, March 1st at approximately 5 PM Pacific Time.

[greennui]

1. Twilight of a Woman's Soul (Yevgeni Bauer)

Ingeborg Holm (Victor Sjöström)
Fantômas: In the Shadow of the Guillotine (Louis Feuillade)
Fantômas: Juve Against Fantômas (Louis Feuillade)
Fantômas: The Dead Man Who Killed (Louis Feuillade)
The Film Prima-Donna (Urban Gad)
Suspense (Lois Weber)
How Men Propose (Lois Weber)
Tragic Error (Louis Feuillade)
Protéa (Victorin-Hippolyte Jasset)

[Curtis, baby]

0________________________________o

this might be the only yr i've seen 0

[flip]

weak year for my viewing too:

Suspense (Lois Weber and Phillips Smalley)

The Dragonfly and the Ant (Wladyslaw Starewicz)
Bout de Zan Steals an Elephant (Louis Feuillade)
The Evidence of the Film (Lawrence Marston and Edwin Thanhouser)
Her Birthday Present (Mack Sennett)

[Lencho of the Apes]

Hey, my prelim. list ditz-aappeared.

Fantomas (aggregate or individually, however it plays out...)

The agony Of Byzantium - feuillade
The Battle Of Elderbush Gulch - griffith
Death's Marathon - Griffith
Erreur Tragique - Feuillade
Granddad - Jay Hunt
The Mothering Heart - Griffith
Silent Heroes - Walter Edwards, Jay Hunt
Tannhauser - Lucius Henderson

Viewing suggestions for the year, based on availability, are... you know...

[MrCarmady]

never heard of this year

[Holymanm]

seen zippo :0

[rischka]

der student von prag
ingeborg holm
the extraordinary adventures of saturnino farandola
two zeeland girls in zandvoort
suspense
the insects' christmas
the night before christmas

need to watch fantomas and more bauers

[niminy-piminy]

ballot...
1. From Physiology of a Great Pond Snail Embryo (Ondřej Schrutz)
Two Zeeland girls in Zandvoort (Two Zeeland girls in Zandvoort)
The Student of Prague (Stellan Rye, Paul Wegener)
Lamas in the Streets of Urga (Stéphane Passet)
The New Writing Desk (Karl Valentin)

https://vimeo.com/151400206

[...]

Ooh, brutal. Two silents I really dig vying for the top spot, but Two Zeeland Girls is such a fave it has to be #1. Saturino has all the imaginative excess anyone could want, but the direction is just a bit stodgy, knocking it to the second slot. I'll try to see more, but I doubt those two will be displaced, even though Suspense, Ingeborg Holm and Student of Prague are awfully close.


Two Zeeland girls in Zandvoort
The Extraordinary Adventures of Saturnino Farandola
Ingeborg Holm
Suspense
The Farmer's Daughters
The Student of Prague
The Insect's Christmas
Last Days of Pompeii
Death's Marathon

Mothering Heart
The Battle of Elderbush Gulch

[greennui]

What are your plans for the years that are yet to be polled, Lench? Are we gonna do 2015-2019 in a row or wait a few years until they've become less recent?

[oscarwerner]

What are your plans for the years that are yet to be polled, Lench? Are we gonna do 2015-2019 in a row or wait a few years until they've become less recent?

Are you so young ?

[Lencho of the Apes]

What are your plans for the years that are yet to be polled, Lench? Are we gonna do 2015-2019 in a row or wait a few years until they've become less recent?

Years less than five years distant are hors de serie; consensus of opinion has been that for years so recent, the dust hasn't settled enough to get a reliable overview of everything. By the rules we've been observing, the only years left are 2015 and 1901. (2016 will be four years, three months on April 1...)

Clearly time to start planning toward the 2.0 iteration; I'll open a thread sometime soon so we can address that issue.

[sally]

[niminy-piminy]

Hallelujah!

[greennui]

[greennui]

I rewatched Ingeborg Holm just the other month, still a magnificent film. A landmark film in many ways, the first social realist feature-length film, based on a real woman's fate. It was the most watched film in Sweden that year and sparked a great debate about social security that would eventually lead to substantial reform to the poorhouse laws in 1918, thus the Swedish model for social security was pretty much born.

Sjöström's style is very rigid compared to his later works but I think it suited the material in a way, like the long static shots of domestic bliss before it all comes tumbling down.

Lesley Manville to play Ingeborg in the Ken Loach remake in my head.





Also watched Bauer's Twilight of a Woman's Soul around the same time which I also loved.

Spoiler!

Although there are many early films that use (he threat of) rape as a cheap way to provide thrills and tension, this is the earliest film I’ve ever seen where rape actually happens in a non exploitative way and the consequences are addressed, and one of the few films in general where the consequences aren’t about (the men’s) revenge but about the woman’s trauma and healing. And then the fact that she does survive and heal makes it the rarest kind of movie, I think.

https://filmsof1913.wordpress.com/2014/ ... mans-soul/

[sally]

Also watched Bauer's Twilight of a Woman's Soul around the same time which I also loved.

Spoiler!

Although there are many early films that use (he threat of) rape as a cheap way to provide thrills and tension, this is the earliest film I’ve ever seen where rape actually happens in a non exploitative way and the consequences are addressed, and one of the few films in general where the consequences aren’t about (the men’s) revenge but about the woman’s trauma and healing. And then the fact that she does survive and heal makes it the rarest kind of movie, I think.

...and then there's larin's 'drama on the volga' - a much more traditional (actual beard stroking) symbol-to-the-face trash-doom uber-russian EVERYONE DIES & GOES INSANE type movie, so....fun.

And also then, here is wonder:

the well-trained magical thieving of albert dieudonne from machin's le diamant noir into a future icon

[sally]

TWO NOTABLE TRAVELOGUES

1. an astonishingly beautiful golden dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BePX5hf8cN4&t

2. an uncanny reflection on the most notable UK act of Seeing in 2020

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/wat ... 913-online
(yes i know no one can see this)

barnard castle in 1913, which time itself very prettily questions the sight of


barnard castle projected onto barnard castle in 2020 in which sight itself was questioned

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-52801667

[rischka]

it's a christmas miracle thx for all suggestions, youtube has some strange offerings



gonna give fantomas a try can't remember what parts i've seen already

[sally]

not recommendations for the full films but enthusiastic endorsement of aspects only: l'ultima vittima - most of the film is blah but the ending is surely the dreadful cinematic awakening of giallo

and

vennerne fra officersskolen - howled most of the way through this and even now the memory makes me chuckle. i haven't seen anything that made me laugh so much in ages. no idea if it was intentional or not (i mean it was intentional) but it was just joy.

[greennui]

I liked the music in the Kino release of Fantomas, especially the intro/outro music that can be heard at 00:32 in this trailer. Not sure what it reminds me of...Tintin? A European, swashbuckling type vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os0YYbDXPMI

1. an astonishingly beautiful golden dream

Pretteh. I'll add it to .

[sally]

ta greennui

now this is incomplete, there's no subs and it's credited to lionel barrymore but for some reason EYE smells frank powell around it, who, we all learnt from 1910, has a gloriously effervescent light touch. And here - have you ever seen little girls bubble so?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVpuV0UoZ3Y

[greennui]

Drama on the Volga (Nikolai Larin) - lol, ridiculous beards, a ridiculous death and a ridiculously grim Russian doomy (had to check if that's even a word and it is!) ending.

S1 (Urban Gad) - Asta's legs as she was wading through the water on the beach was pretty much the only thing that truly piqued my interest...

[sally]

oh yeah, when they pulled his body from the water and all the dying fish flapping around him, that was TOO MUCH.

asta is amazing is S1, that (inserted for absolutely no reason) beach scene is like another dimension. she is approximately 1000x more alive and modern than everyone else in it.

[greennui]

oh yeah, when they pulled his body from the water and all the dying fish flapping around him, that was TOO MUCH.

asta is amazing is S1, that (inserted for absolutely no reason) beach scene is like another dimension. she is approximately 1000x more alive and modern than everyone else in it.

Asta just doing stuff is grand cinéma éternel. Die Filmprimadonna is another good example of that with her going around running the show and whatnot. Shame most of it is lost.

[sally]

die filmprimadonna ♥

[greennui]

The two most graphic films of the year could be the ones showing the Emily Davison incident at the 1913 Epsom derby.

BFI and Pathé both have their own version of the event but it seems like both of the letterboxd entries are referring to the BFI one.

https://letterboxd.com/film/suffragette-derby-of-1913/
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-derby-1913/

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/wat ... 913-online
Is this one the same as the one on the BFI youtube page, Sally?

[sally]

hmmm.

'the derby' one on letterboxd, corresponds to the one on the bfi youtube channel

the one on the bfi player called Suffragette Derby of 1913 is gaumont branded and contains some of the same footage as the pathe branded one youtube.com/watch?v=wVrlLKAR1S0, however tho both share some footage each has some the other does not, and totally different intertitles. both have the same footage of the horse hitting emily, but it's so much clearer on the gaumont version, you can really see her skirts flying.

[greennui]

Guess I've kinda seen both of them then, huh.