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1988 poll viewing No22:
THE DOCUMENTATOR (István Dárday, Györgyi Szalai)
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-documentator/

i am still watching it (it's more than 3 hours long).
this is just a first detour pause to read (and copy-paste here) the following...
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/01/movi ... tator.html
NEW YORK TIMES, October 1, 1989, Section 1, Page 61

Free enterprise's new appeal to some of the Communist-bloc countries is examined with bitterness and occasional wit in ''The Documentator,'' a 215-minute Hungarian film that takes advantage of other aspects of the same political thaw it satirizes.

Directed by Istvan Darday and Gyorgyi Szalai, the film has the free form of the agitprop movies made by Jean-Luc Godard in the late 1960's and early 1970's. At the center of it is the small fictional tale of Raffael, who stands for everything rotten in the newly liberalized Hungarian society. He is the owner of an amazingly profitable video shop in Budapast and, it seems, a speculator in currencies.

Raffael is a cruder, simpler-minded version of Sergio, the hero of Tomas Gutierrez Alea's ''Memories of Underdevelopment.'' The well-born, intellectual Sergio refuses to flee to Miami when Fidel Castro's revolution triumphs. Instead, he stays on in Havana, an impotent critic of the revolution he cannot quite bring himself to join.

Like Sergio, Raffael is intellectual, self-aware, and an acute observer of the world in which he lives. He is also an unconscionable rat, involved in a triangle with his much younger wife, Chip, and her lover, Rambo, a young man who actually does look like a Slavic version of Sylvester Stallone.

This vignette is the smallest part of ''The Documentator,'' which, through Raffael, exhaustively examines the relationship between film and video. At one point, the movie announces portentously that video must revolutionize the way audiences look at movies and the way movies are made. That is not exactly news.

When he is not playing games with his wife and Rambo, Raffael, the participant-observer, watches videos of all descriptions. Sometimes he tapes himself delivering neo-Godardian essays on violence, money and power. The movie also has its share of neo-Godardian aphorisms.

''The Documentator'' is stuffed with images that illustrate something of the awesome abundance of information that video makes available. Time and space disappear. The movie cross-cuts video images of World War I with those of World War II. Revolutions are equated with clips from porn films. The fighting in Beirut is seen in the context of Saturday-morning cartoons. Disasters are reduced to the dimensions of commercials for hairsprays.

In the wonderful world of video, there is no past. Everything is taking place in an endless present. Video overloads our circuits.

Some of the images are riveting, like the Hungarian newsreels that cheerily report Hungary's participation in the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968. Some of the other newsreel footage is so vivid and horrific that it neutralizes the film's more abstract concerns.

The reason ''The Documentator'' goes on so long is that the people who made it seem to believe that no point worth making should be made only once.
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1. A Short Film About Killing (Kieslowski)

Time of the Gypsies (Kusturica)
The Last Temptation of Christ (Scorsese)
Distant Voices, Still Lives (Davies)
Une.affaire.de.femmes (Chabrol)
High.Hopes (Leigh)
Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (Haynes)
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (Almodovar)
Une histoire de vent (Ivens)
Cinema Paradiso (Tornatore)
The Thin Blue Line (Morris)
Red Sorghum (Zhang)
Another Woman (Allen)
A Fish Called Wanda (Crichton)
Grave of the Fireflies (Takahata)
Frantic (Polanski)
Dead Ringers (Cronenburg)




Watched for this poll:


Une.affaire.de.femmes (Chabrol)
High.Hopes (Leigh)

Dead Ringers (Cronenburg)
Une histoire de vent (Ivens)


Hope to see:

The Cannibals
Encore
Heart of a Dog
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1988 poll viewing No23:
A COLD DRAFT (Lis Rhodes)
https://letterboxd.com/film/a-cold-draft/
A Cold Draft (1988) layers text, image and voice to explore the socio-political landscape of Britain in the 1980s. The film describes the shift from state-controlled institutions to privatisation and economic reform under the Conservative government and the leadership of Margaret Thatcher. Against this political backdrop, Rhodes narrates the story of a female protagonist who is under surveillance and has been deemed mad. Rhodes describes the woman’s dissatisfaction with the domesticity and administration of daily life and asks: is she really mad? Or is she fed up with a life defined by domestic activity? Throughout the film, Rhodes’s voice moves between defiance and defeat. Statements such as “Heroes are heroic and heroines die”, and “Resistance had been turned into acceptance” come to embody a chorus of repressed subjects enduring political and social oppression.
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just noticed i have a bunch of bad '88 movies on my dvr, including alien from l.a. and earth girls are easy. will check those out, once i finish aakhri adaalat
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1988 poll viewing No24:
CANNIBAL TOURS (Dennis O'Rourke)
https://letterboxd.com/film/cannibal-tours/
THERE IS NOTHING SO STRANGE IN A STRANGE LAND, AS THE STRANGER WHO COMES TO VISIT IT.
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1988 poll viewing No25:
PRIVATE PARTS (Marjorie Keller)
https://letterboxd.com/film/private-parts-1988/
Women’s Experimental Cinema (Robin Blaetz, Amnesis Time: The Films of Marjorie Keller, pp.221-227)
https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/id/ ... 004320.pdf

In The Untutored Eye: Childhood in the Films of Cocteau, Cornell, and Brakhage, the published version of her doctoral dissertation, Keller examines the work of three filmmakers known for their representation of children and for their romantic sense of childhood as a privileged, visionary period of life. Jean Cocteau’s films were formally and conceptually intriguing to Keller for their faith in the power of photography and editing to confer plausibility on the most supernatural of events and to make these alternative realities believable, even to an uninitiated audience. By using similar textures of light, movement, and sound to unite the realistic and the purely imagined, and by avoiding the soft focus or slow motion often used to mark the improbable, Cocteau created, according to Keller, a ‘‘complex layering of simultaneous realities.’’ Cocteau was not a surrealist, Keller points out, and he rejected Freudian thought because of its concern with analyzing and explaining the often mysterious and tenuous worlds created in art. For Cocteau, as for Keller, the aesthetic achievement of art was the very point of the endeavor, not the content to be explained via symbolic or psychoanalytic readings.

In Cocteau’s films, as in those of Joseph Cornell and Stan Brakhage, a child protagonist is particularly able to seduce the viewer into entering
and believing in alternative worlds. Children are portrayed as fully and ecstatically aware of the universe in all its fullness, and childhood itself is understood as a mode of perception gradually destroyed with age and experience. Cocteau’s androgynous young heroes seek to escape the
debilitating effects of institutionalized education and the onslaught of adulthood. His primary motif is the child as voyeur, someone who visually
and psychologically absorbs the sensory world while remaining unseen. His films are based on what Keller called a ‘‘hierarchy of seeing,’’ in which
the filmmaker reformulates his childhood relation to his parents by allowing his adult self the privilege of the child’s all-encompassing vision,
including its illusion of omnipotence.

In several ways, Keller’s first two notebook films in the ‘‘Parts’’ series explore this ‘‘hierarchy of seeing’’ as well. In both, the placement of the camera identifies the filmmaker as a voyeuristic presence that organizes the world at the moment of seeing it. Foreign Parts is most notable in this regard. The film consists of a rapid alteration, with some repetition, of scenes of children playing on a lawn that slopes down to a beach, of a woman walking on the lawn and a man cutting the grass, and images from nature (flowers, water, birds, cows) as well as from a more mechanical world (lawn mower, sliding glass doors, cars in a distance across a concrete driveway). Of particular note are a large, elaborate birdhouse on a pole in the yard and the cutting on movement that equates the birds darting back and forth with the running children. Keller described the film in the Film-Makers’ Cooperative catalogue as ‘‘portraying the poetics of family life in an unfamiliar context.’’ It charts how we make sense of the new through what we already know, and likewise, how what we know is changed by a new environment. The film’s central images consist of the filmmaker’s voyeuristic framings of familiar figures in a different space. In one instance, the person behind the camera seems to be crouching indoors as she looks out through the lens at an older man riding a lawn mower; the door slides shut in the middle of the shot, so that the glass distorts the world and calls attention to the importance of seeing and how conscious looking changes what is seen. Near the end of the film, from the same crouched position, the filmmaker looks through the space created by the arm, back, and seat of an aluminum lawn chair to see a woman walking along the beachfront lawn where children previously had been playing. The camera pans right to remove the woman from the space, then back again to include her in its intentional framing. The filmmaker, having placed herself at a child’s height, creates an image of a
threatening parental world in which she alone controls what is seen and thus assumes power over the adults.

Like Cocteau, Cornell was interested in portraying simultaneous realities. However, while Cocteau embedded his alternative universes in conventional cinematic narratives, placing them on the same phenomenological plane as everyday reality, Cornell was bolder. In both his films and
the three-dimensional collage boxes for which he is famous, Cornell worked with the objects that entranced him, including found footage; his
particular vocabulary consisted of stellar imagery, birds, printed words, scientific paraphernalia, and children, all grouped in such a way as to
show them in a new light. His method as a filmmaker was characterized by what Keller called ‘‘visual equation’’—the rearrangement of apparently ephemeral, disconnected images according to a rhythmic or graphic logic. Each image is connected to the previous and subsequent ones in a
‘‘complex of simultaneities,’’ in which meaning is subtly shifted in a nonsequential, nonnarrative way. Throughout her career, Keller remained
interested in the child psychologist Jean Piaget’s notion of a natural order in which things and events in the world are understood by children
without being explicitly stated. The practice common to Cornell and Keller of using bits and pieces of the present world to suggest a natural
order and to evoke that which is absent, taboo, or unsayable calls to mind once more the importance of amnesis as a model of artistic creation.

Like Cocteau, Cornell used children in his films to signal to his viewers that he was operating from the child’s untainted and all-encompassing
mode of perception, in which reality is shaped in conformance to a private vision. Like Brakhage, his films are based on the logic of children’s
prerational game playing; they feature repetition, nonrealistic space, and an absence of narrative flow, as well as a childlike attachment to certain
images that carry magical significance. Cornell’s films resemble his boxes more than they resemble other people’s films; their meaning depends on
one’s holding all the images and iconography in mind and integrating them into the distinctly Cornellian system. The viewer, rather than
remembering specific images and connections, retains evanescent visual ideas in which children, birds, stars, and all the other forms become
disembodied and recreated in a mysterious and charming new world.

Keller too used fragmentary images and motifs in a cyclical, nonnarrative structure, although her goal was not to disembody childhood and
children, but rather to embody them. Keller’s films do not reduce the complexity of adult life by returning to childhood’s magic. They present
the layers of simultaneities in order to speak about the transition from childhood to adulthood and all that is lost. A case in point is the brief
single-roll film Ancient Parts, which more than any of Keller’s films resembles a Joseph Cornell box. Ancient Parts consists of minimal action in a tiny room that includes a small boy, a mirror, a bed, and a mother in a nightgown. These iconic elements are united by the golden, grainy quality of the film and the tilting, ever-shifting camera work. Most important is the fact that most of the film was shot into the mirror, so that visually it resembles a box within a box. As the boy gazes upon and touches parts of his body, with the filmmaker and the mother as audience, he almost enacts the psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan’s mirror phase of development, in which the child conceives an idealized sense of the body’s functional wholeness, or ego ideal. The toddler attempts to climb into the imagined mirror space, an action that is echoed by the filmmaker’s recording of the reflected scene as she and her camera assume the same gaze as the boy. Like the three filmmakers she analyzed in her book, Keller literalizes the process whereby a filmmaker shows the world through the child’s superior perception. But she also reveals her adult consciousness of what the child is experiencing. Twice in the film the boy turns away from the mirror and climbs onto his mother’s lap, sequences that are filmed without the mirror’s mediation. As the camera moves to a close-up, the boy’s face is seen to be scraped and scratched, as if to indicate that the task of separating from the mother is not without pain. Unlike her predecessors, Keller is interested in infusing an image with a certain amount of humor and an indication of her adult awareness.

Keller’s focus on the difficulty of crossing from childhood innocence to adult experience suggests a stronger resemblance to Brakhage than to
Cocteau or Cornell, although the final film in the ‘‘Parts’’ series also manifests the ways in which she learned from, and then moved beyond, her teacher. Private Parts, as the title indicates, is about the filmmaker’s private life, and it features her family and friends in uncharacteristic long takes that make their identities clear. Keller took to heart Brakhage’s admonition to work within the sphere of daily life, as well as his Emersonian belief that the deeper one looks inside oneself, the more universal one’s observations become. The setting of this film—on another lawn, in front of yet another house on the water—also reflects the indirect influence of one of Brakhage’s mentors, the poet Charles Olson, who advised artists to fix themselves in a particular place in relation to the world and examine that place in terms of a larger history, from the geological and archeological to the anthropological and the mythological. Whereas Brakhage placed himself in the Rocky Mountains near Boulder, Colorado, Keller worked at the shore of the Atlantic Ocean in Rhode Island. In Foreign Parts, as in many of her films, shots of the water (with or without boats), the horizon, and the rocky or sandy shoreline are powerful representations of places where the particular textures of daily life meet the flow of time. People foraging for clams among the rocks show the same intuitiveness and deliberation as the filmmaker using her handheld camera to record the textures and forms of their bodies. This mundane search for dinner is alternated rapidly with shots of the ocean, allowing the filmmaker to connect the daily world with the larger one encompassing all of human relations as well as the connections between human beings and nature.

Like many experimental filmmakers, Keller was indebted to Brakhage’s well-known text ‘‘Metaphors on Vision,’’ in which he asks the reader to
imagine the world as it would appear to a child who has not learned language. According to Keller, Brakhage thought of a child as both ‘‘a
being and a metaphor’’ and he urged filmmakers to see the most common of life’s events as if for the first time, in close up and with attention. In truly seeing the world as it was before it disappeared behind linguistic markers, the filmmaker makes available for his camera the raw material of creation. Keller believed that Brakhage had a more honest relation to childhood than that of either Cocteau or Cornell, who used this stage of life mostly as a rhetorical guise to approach forbidden truths. Brakhage’s films, on the other hand, chart a deeply felt search for personal mysteries that are painful and finally insolvable. Keller learned from Brakhage how to rigorously structure the material gained from the search as recorded in sketchlike bits of film, then how to use repetition and the serial presentation and visual rhyming of key imagery (water, gardens, horizons, birds, vacant spaces, fragments of bodies) to give the viewer multiple points of view. As Keller wrote, ‘‘one sees the child and alternately sees how a child might.’’

Where Keller differs from Brakhage is in her intentionality. She wrote of her mentor that he was part of a Romantic tradition that allowed
him to think of his films as ‘‘given’’ to him to make, just as his children were given to him by his wives. In line with this prophetic tradition, his
films were revelations that he shared with his audience. Keller also approached the world nonintrusively, recording it with an eye tuned to
whatever was present. But she structured her films to illustrate what lies under the surface and also to provide a commentary on those observations. The title of Private Parts, for example, refers clearly to the people and places that it shows. But it also alludes to the dominant event of the film, the three firings of a phallic-formed rocket by a boy and his father. The rocket, which disappears into the sky or the ocean, celebrates some elemental bond between father and son, and the launching also unites the people scattered across the lawn, who are all excited by it. Eventually they gather around a table, and a young girl who has been peripheral to but interested in the main event walks back and forth from the house to the guests, transporting food. Throughout the film, this girl had been shown along with other women holding small children, thus suggesting, as a parallel to the male rocket sequence, the gendered division of labor and pleasure. Intercut with these scenes are fragments of an episode in which the father hands a manuscript to another man, who is shown reading it. This image is captured from over the reader’s right shoulder in a fairly tight shot, which flashes into red at the end of the film reel. One feels here that Keller is commenting on the very process of constructing meaning—of turning the particulars of life into art—with the manuscript a metaphor for the work of the film and the red beneath the film’s emulsion a metaphor for complexity beneath appearances. Private Parts may give the appearance of a home movie, revealed to its maker in the shooting, but like all of Keller’s work it is a carefully constructed film that must be read and interpreted.
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if bunuel had lived through the '80s, and kept making films, and his career had devolved into low budget b-horror territory, then slugs is one of the flicks he woulda made... just sayin
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In Georgia (Jürgen Böttcher) - A cozy travelogue through the Svaneti province of Georgia in which the director wanted to see if scenes from Pirosmani's paintings still existed there.

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1988 poll viewing No26:
GREEN (Luther Price) (as "Tom Rhoads")
https://letterboxd.com/film/green-1988/
Green is a world where ghosts live.
Emerging from silent memory, they
enter an image of reality, cool, crisp and static.
Tromping forward, time unravels
tracing to points of the past,
conjuring the familiar, reliving
events unresolved, revealing
very little. Beauty is continually redefined,
celebrating life and death in a
plastic world haunted.
It is a romantic suicide.
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1988 poll viewing No27:
WARM BROTH (Luther Price) (as "Tom Rhoads")
https://letterboxd.com/film/warm-broth/
Review by blakeg ↓
I have now seen hell.
Review by allegra ↓
Sing me a song. Tell me a secret. Sing me a song. Sing me a song. I like flowers. Give me a kiss. Tell me a secret. I love you mommy. Hug me tight. I like flowers. Tell me a secret. Hug me tiiii— Sing me a song. Sing me a song. Tell me a secret. Give me a kiss. I like flowers. Sing me a song. Tell me a secret. Tell me a secret. Tell me a secreeee— I love you mommy. I like flowers. Hug me tight. I love you mommy. Tell me a secret. Tell me a secret. Sing me a song. Etc. for 35 mins...
Everything will be ok, just close
your eyes little thing
go to sleep little fuck
feel my hand on your warm
forehead
It's cold isn't it? Ice cold.

Dream of something real sweet
for mommy
Mommy likes sweet things
Dream of a merry-go-round and
cotton candy

Mommy's hand got all warm
resting on your tiny head
See, look at mommy's hand
It got all warm now

You're running a slight fever
Mommy will get you some
water
And you're running a slight
fever

Little fuck don't have to go to
school tomorrow
but no playing in the yard
Someone could see you
And I'll be an unfit mommy

You'll have to stay in all day

but now, dream of the prettiest
flower for mommy
I'll make you oatmeal first thing
And you could tell me the color
of the -
prettiest flower.
Tom Rhoads is dead. Long live Luther Price. Before making his infamous film Sodom (1989), Price invented different personas, living these roles in order to execute a breadth of artistic projects. Tom Rhoads marked his first foray into filmmaking. An infantile psyche in the body of an adult, Rhoads was the vessel for some of the artist's most introspective and psychodramatic films. Working in Super 8, Rhoads' projects are visceral explorations of trauma, "home movies from hell," repetitive explosions of personal memory and familial guilt. "A nice guy," Price describes Rhoads as the kind of man, "who would buy you an ice cream cone."

Already recognized as a classic of experimental cinema, Warm Broth existed in two versions and took nearly two years for the artist to complete. A penetrating glance into queer childhood, the filmmaker appears here as both the young Tom Rhoads and his mother (known as CUNT). Corroded images of childhood objects like stuffed animals, poppets and fudge bars collide with CUNT who goes shopping, hangs clothes on the line and lingers, ominously. The soundtrack is comprised solely of the insistent repetitions of a pull string doll: "Tell me a secret! Give me a kiss! I like flowers!"

Tom Rhoads produced 18 psychologically searing Super 8 works in a mere two years, between 1987 and 1989. Rhoads was the first filmmaker persona of Luther Price, whose sculptural and performative practices took included the additional alter-egos Fag, Brick, LA, Laija Brie, and Brigk Aethy. Tom Rhoads committed suicide via candy overdose in a public performance in 1989, giving birth to Luther Price.
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On June 13, 2020, Luther Price, the American artist whom the writer Ed Halter famously described in 2012 as being “Brakhage after Punk”, passed from this world at the age of 58, leaving behind a legacy in the form of repurposed celluloid. Though his works might be obscure to most and even jarring to some, a careful look at any artefact from his diverse and strikingly haunting oeuvre reveals the hands of one of the medium’s most sensitive aesthete. Price had trained as a sculptor and it was physical incapacity, caused by a gunshot wound during his semester abroad, that found him turning his sight towards experimental film under the pseudonym Tom Rhoads. Beginning his practice under the tutelage of Saul Levine...
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what if i told you there was a movie from 1988 starring cyndi lauper and jeff goldblum with supporting turns from julian sands and peter falk and a massive backlog of familiar faces such as googy gress, john kapelos, michael lerner, and an impossibly young steve buscemi directed by ken kwapis the auteur behind the masterpieces dunston checks in and the beautician and the beast and co-written by a dude named babaloo mandel the scribe behind the novelistic screenplays for gung ho and city slickers ii: the legend of curly's gold... oh yeah, and it's about psychics traveling to the ecuadorian andes... would you believe me?
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i'd believe it

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distant voices still lives. wish i'd watched this before the long day closes?
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1988 poll viewing No31:
FRANÇOIS PERNET, CARPENTER AND SCULPTOR (Jacqueline Veuve)
https://store.der.org/franois-pernet-ca ... -p827.aspx
Like his grandfather and his father before him, François Pernet is a mountain peasant and works with wood. He trained as a carpenter and cabinet maker and owns the last water-powered sawmill still operating in French-speaking Switzerland. He and his wife have five children, two of their own, and three nephews adopted after the death of their parents in a car accident. So, to earn a living, he makes and carves cupboards and turns bannisters. In addition to his work, Pernet has become a sculptor as well. His bas-relief carvings, which have decorated local cafés, show various aspects of mountain life, including hunters, poachers, chamois and other animals.
it is a part of the "Wood Crafts Series"...
https://store.der.org/wood-crafts-series-p974.aspx
A series of ten short films about traditional wood tradesmen of Switzerland. These films take a close look into the life and craft of a group of men who make their living from working with wood, including a cooper, a luthier, a toy-maker, a carpenter and sculptor, a pair of shingle-makers, a turner, and others.
if a man makes woodcarvings in the sawmill, not only his eyes get preoccupied but his ears too!
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Krótki film o milosci (A Short Film About Love)

A Summer Story
Amsterdamned
Ariel
Bull Durham
Camp de Thiaroye
De bruit et de fureur (Sound and Fury)
Gánh Xiêc Rong (Travelling Circus)
La boca del lobo (The Lion's Den)
Mississippi Burning
Mujeres al borde de un ataque de nervios (Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown)
Salaam Bombay!
Spoorloos (The Vanishing)
Técnicas de duelo: Una cuestión de honor (A Matter of Honour)
The Milagro Beanfield War
They Live
Un pasaje de ida (One Way Ticket)
Vreme na nasilie (Time of Violence)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Wong Gok ka moon (As Tears Go By)
Spoiler!
Can't wait year polls 2.0 to avoid all this shit and start supporting truly enjoyable movies as Hell Comes to Frogtown. :P
Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500)
Akira
Dead Ringers
Die Hard
Distant Voices, Still Lives
Dom za vesanje
Hotaru no haka
Krótki film o zabijaniu
Nuovo Cinema Paradiso
Rain Man
The Thin Blue Line
Tonari no Totoro
Topio stin omichli
Une histoire de vent

To see before the deadline
Iacob
Marusa no onna 2
Mortu Nega
Permanent Record (rewatch)
The Stick

Wanted
Histoires d'Amérique: Food, Family and Philosophy
La Bohème
Reefer and the Model
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https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1350 ... 49440?s=20

this is some dumb triad stuff, wkw hasn't found himself yet, but maggie cheung and andy lau are so cute, they're like 20

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ok i looked it up, andy was 27 and maggie was 24
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vibes (ken kwapis) worth watching if, and only if: 1) you've seen thousands of other movies, and you're like 'eh i guess i'll watch vibes' ; 2) you've no idea what you feel like watching, so you'll let one of our polls guide your decision-making, and you see that vibes is from 1988, and realizing we're currently running a 1988 poll, you're like 'eh i guess i'll watch vibes' ; 3) you're one of those strange individuals with a weird thing for '80s jeff goldblum movies, and realizing you've already seen other '80s goldblum goldmines such as the adventures of buckaroo banzai across the 8th dimension, earth girls are easy, and transylvania 6-5000, you're like 'eh i guess i'll watch vibes.' other than that, rec'd solely as a curiosity piece. double bill with joe versus the volcano, if you wanna lower your iq by 20-30 pts
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Joe vs the Volcano is much better than Vibes, but Vibes is fine. Some will undoubtedly hate it, gripe about Cyndy Lauper or the completely inconsequential story or something, but that's how it goes. The difference between it and other likeminded mass audience stuff is really pretty minimal, so the little things take on greater weight since that's all there is to differentiate the stuff.
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greg x wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:55 pmthe little things take on greater weight since that's all there is to differentiate the stuff
yeah, pretty much this. it's certainly an interesting time capsule, in that these offbeat mainstream movies meant for adults seemed only possible mostly in the '80s (and into the very early '90s, but much more sparingly, and more so in children's/family films). i actually didn't mind lauper. she does goofy cute well enough. and there were more than a few gags and sequences where i genuinely lol'd. so it's not entirely a failed effort. but also agree that joe versus the volcano is more deserving of its cult status (guess i name-dropped jvtv cuz they both seem part of this weird subsubsubgenre of yuppie americans lost in exotic locales). vibes shoulda been even kookier tbh. a less journeyman-like director might've helped. it's got the ingredients, but the execution is just safely serviceable
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1988 poll viewing No34:
TEA LEAF (Ruth Novaczek)
https://letterboxd.com/film/tea-leaf/
besides A COLD DRAFT (Lis Rhodes), another female voice from "the tumultuous Thatcherite 1980s".
besides LUTHER PRICE, RUTH NOVACZEK is another filmmaker i didn't know before and am going to investigate after this poll will be over.
An intimate account of frustration and disarray in 1980s Britain from the point of view of a young woman.
'This film relates to what I'd call the typical Jewish London woman of my generation: growing up in the 60s, at a comprehensive school ... the confusion of denying your culture and your sexuality for years through having it beaten out of you - and then waking up in the Thatcherite 80s. Fighting the system and poverty by stealing food from supermarkets and learning to love women ... finding the importance of roots and culture and the dangers of living in the East End and being different; being a woman without a man.'
Founded in 1966, the London Film-Makers’ Co-operative started life at Better Books, a counter-culture bookshop on Charing Cross Road, where a group led by poet Bob Cobbing and filmmakers Stephen Dwoskin and Jeff Keen met to screen films. Initially inspired by the activities of the New American Cinema Group in New York, the London Co-op grew into a pioneering organisation that incorporated a film workshop, cinema space and distribution office.
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currently watching this -- vhs rolling with steppenwolf's pusher man blaring. i feel like i'm IN 1988 8-)
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wtf i didn't know crosby's mom was in movies
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Its complete trash but I'm watching anyway. she's not much of an actress. i remember her from star trek: tng

wow i didn't know this but she is bing crosby's granddaughter. not a nice family
On May 4, 1958, (Dennis) Crosby married Pat Sheehan, a Las Vegas showgirl and model who had once dated his father shortly after his mother had died. She was also Miss San Francisco of 1950, Playmate of the month of October 1958, and part-time actress.[2] Within days, Crosby was sued by another woman, Marilyn Miller Scott, over the paternity of her daughter, Denise Crosby. The sensational lawsuit lasted three years and ended with Dennis being ordered to pay Scott child support and legal fees.[1] This and the marriage to Sheehan and other details caused deep embarrassment for both him and his father. Although Bing Crosby died when his granddaughter was 19, the two reportedly never met.
her dad and her uncle both killed themselves around the time this movie was made
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rischka wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:32 amher dad and her uncle both killed themselves around the time this movie was made
wow how in the world did the producers miss this golden opportunity to make that the tagline of the movie!?
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just started cherry 2000, and gotta say it's pretty nifty. might've found some good trash for the year, after the slight disappointment that was vibes
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thoxans wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:46 pm
rischka wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:32 amher dad and her uncle both killed themselves around the time this movie was made
wow how in the world did the producers miss this golden opportunity to make that the tagline of the movie!?
Because it actually happened after the movie so they would have to be psychics. Too much celeb gossip?? my sleep habits are totally fucked so i'm just rambling now
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ah criminy i just noticed that imdb has cherry 2000 as an '87, but my cable guide has it as an '88. was looking forward to adding it to my list too. just 20min in and it goes from being a schlocky scifisexploitation flick ala frank-henenlotter-meets-stuart-gordon to a neon drenched blade runner clone to an unabashed space western to a wasteland-set mad max riff
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1988 poll viewing No35:
GEORG K. GLASER, WRITER AND SMITH (Harun Farocki)
https://letterboxd.com/film/georg-k-gla ... and-smith/

these 3 films (all made in 1988) fit together...
THE LUDDITES (Richard Broad)
FRANÇOIS PERNET, CARPENTER AND SCULPTOR (Jacqueline Veuve)
GEORG K. GLASER, WRITER AND SMITH (Harun Farocki)
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jiri kino ovalis wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:12 pm 1988 poll viewing No35:
GEORG K. GLASER, WRITER AND SMITH (Harun Farocki)
https://letterboxd.com/film/georg-k-gla ... and-smith/
I watched this recently. I love this guy!
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i noticed (on Ltbxd) you watched it already.
seems like you are quite familiar with Harun Farocki.
it is one of my (many) big plans to go through his (possibly) whole oeuvre.
i want to make a completist crush on a Berlin School's tutor and almost my countryman (he was born in town Nový Jičín).
you might like FRANÇOIS PERNET, CARPENTER AND SCULPTOR (Jacqueline Veuve) too.
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