1989 poll

[rischka]

I've seen la belle nonsense -- it was endless. I liked pont du nord and Paris nous appartient

Celine et Julie too. I haven't given up. Just pacing myself :p

[kanafani]

I've seen la belle nonsense

[rischka]

i can't take credit; that was autocorrect on my phone

[Lencho of the Apes]

Really? wow...

Am I being judged for having an emotional reaction to a behavior? I thought that was a thing that sentient beings *do*.

I think Kanafani missed the degree to which my Duelle comment was a backhanded complement. Young Adult novels *tend* to have shortcomings like those you identified as holding Rollin's movie back from the Rivettian heignhts. In essence, I was saying "Like Duelle but kinda stupid." If, for him, it wasn't a loveable kind of stupid,, that's a different question.

[kanafani]

I guess it’s just the stupid kind of stupid.

[karl]

The year's sole subtitled Bulgarian film (that I know of) is on Youtube:

Маргарит и Маргарита / Margarit and Margarita (1989)

[...]

Am I being judged for having an emotional reaction to a behavior? I thought that was a thing that sentient beings *do*.

Don't know. depends on what you're saying and to whom. That was left purposefully vague but seemed to point to me out of a deeply uncharitable misreading of what I said, so much so it suggests a greater dislike than that post alone would cover.

[Lencho of the Apes]

No, no, no. A thousand times no. Has nothing to do with you. I don't know what you said that you think I was responding to, but I wasn't responding to anything that anybody had said. What part of "and then bails" applies to the way you approach the polls? You post a wide-ranging prelim list, and you're here throughout the process to continue discussing the movies being watched, and at the end you offer a final list that reflects anything you've done with those movies during the poll period. As far as I'm concerned, that's *ideal* behavior for someone playing this game.

EDIT: Oh, the top of page two, bit of self deprecation on your part. Yeah, but... no but... all I can say is that if you go look at a couple of past years, you will in fact see a handful of people who post a final ballot on P1 or P2 and then do *nothing* else to advance the project. I still don't think that applies to way you play the game.

[...]

Ah, my apologies then. I thought it was that bit of self deprecation that was being nodded to. I haven't been able to watch much of anything for the site of late and I didn't want to seem as if I was knocking anyone or acting all high and mighty or anything.

I guess I get a bit paranoid or defensive sometimes since I know the way I write throws some people off.

[thoxans]

and then bail

i'd like to think this pertains especially to me, since i'm notoriously noncommittal, easily sidetracked, and hopelessly unreliable (but at least i've learned my lesson volunteering for anything that requires any time and effort whatsoever)

[nrh]

really liked in which annie gives it those ones, so deceptively laid back and warm in its depiction of young people at a delhi architecture school that it's easy to miss the vulnerability and sadness here...there's also a strange retroactive melancholy to the film just because director pradeep kishan and writer/star arundhati roy never really work in film again, one to be an environmentalist and the other to be one of the most famous writers of her generation.



watched it on the unsubtitled "remaster" print on youtube and although a lot of it is in english there's enough hindi here i probably would've been lost if i didn't have someone who could explain the lines for me...

some of the

also srk, looking impossibly young in his very first role

[dominicano1970]

The Abyss (Cameron)

Batman (Burton)
Black Rain (Imamura)
Casualties of War (De Palma)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (Allen)
Dead Poets Society (Weir)
Do the Right Thing (Lee)
Enemies: A Love Story (Mazursky)
Farewell to the King (Milius)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Spielberg)
Merry Christmas... Happy New Year (Comencini)
Music Box (Costa-Gavras)
Noce blanche (Brisseau)
Sea of Love (Becker)
The 15 Year Old Girl (Doillon)
The Decalogue (Kieslowski)
To Live Another Day (Bernal)
Valmont (Forman)
Widow Burning (Sen)
Yaaba (Ouedraogo)

As someone said before and I must agree, I'm gonna have lots of films left over to watch whether it's 3 or 4 weeks. I think that 3 weeks with a rerun after 2 o 3 years would make it more enjoyable, but either way is fine.

[liquidnature]

Korova / The Cow - my first and without a doubt not my final Petrov; painterly in both the literal and visual, maybe the best use of light and shadow I've seen in animation

Ilha das Flores / Isle of Flowers - comical and haunting, but a little too cutesy (which is part of the intended irony) to be truly impactful for me

Pekin no suika / Beijing Watermelon - enjoyed the first half more than the unexpected second half, but such a unique experience - sincere, vulnerable, whimsical, mournful - at times felt more like life than film

[Silga]

Final list:

1. Monsieur Hire (Patrice Leconte)

Music Box (Costa-Gavras)
Sea of Love (Harold Becker)
Batman (Tim Burton)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee)
New York Stories (Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola & Woody Allen)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Steven Spielberg)
Steel Magnolias (Herbert Ross)
For All Mankind (Al Reinert)
Born on the Fourth of July (Oliver Stone)
Harlem Nights (Eddie Murphy)
Roger & Me (Michael Moore)
Back to the Future Part II (Robert Zemeckis)
The War of the Roses (Danny DeVito)
True Believer (Joseph Ruben)
Jacknife (David Hugh Jones)
Licence to Kill (John Glen)
Kill Me Again (John Dahl)
Johnny Handsome (Walter Hill)
Society (Brian Yuzna)

[pabs]

Aren't we getting an extra week for this poll?

[rischka]

i'd been afraid to watch this but i got sucked in and it flew by. the last part this lady. also i may be in love with dr taylor

how the heck they filmed this. just jawdropping stuff. i don't wanna get old i don't rate anymore but i gotta give this five stars

[arkheia]

Before My Eyes, Mani Kaul’s Kashmir travelogue and ultimately unused by the tourist company that commissioned it, clocks in at only 26 minutes if anyone’s looking for short films. Nature sounds segue into musical performances, both carried through the montage of ephemeral landscapes like the camera traveling through the geography’s hollow body. An extreme close-up of the balloon’s burner, directly contrasting the snowy landscape in the previous shot and subsequently seen peering in through the window upon sleeping children, reveals the film’s ‘eyes’ in much the same way the later shot of the cellist follows after its music has reverberated across the drifting camera pans, the sound moved by the same winds propelling the hot-air ballon across the hillside.

[Lencho of the Apes]

Sounds like that one might have been dialogue-free, was it? It was on my radar, but I couldn't find subs for it...

[Lencho of the Apes]

Poll closes in about 7 days and 4 hours.
Meanwhile, anybody who wants to move forward into a new year is free to do so. Your choice.
Next final lists will be posted on April 1st.

[arkheia]

Sounds like that one might have been dialogue-free, was it? It was on my radar, but I couldn't find subs for it...

Yep, no dialogue! You can watch it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfIfYNjF3bU

[MayaDeren_fan]

Do the Right Thing

A Grand Day Out
Alan Clarke's Elephant
Driving Miss Daisy
Histoire(s) Du Cinema: A Single (Hi)story
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Kiki's Delivery Service
Tetsuo: the Iron Man

one of the better years in the 1980s

[arkheia]

Just watched Eight Taels of Gold and like @ofrene, I was very pleased with it. Mabel Chung's assured handling of romantic and diasporic longing is expressed as vividly through color as it is through Sammo Hung and Sylvia Chang's wonderful performances. Added to my list!

[pabs]

also i may be in love with dr taylor

Not surprised. He seems such a good person.

[kanafani]

Near Death (Frederick Wiseman, 1989)

A City of Sadness (Hou, 1989)
Route One USA (Robert Kramer, 1989)
Gang of Four (Jacques Rivette, 1989)
Les sièges de l'Alcazar (Luc Moullet, 1989)
Water and Power (Pat O'Neill, 1989)
Rembrandt Laughing (Jon Jost, 1989)
My Heart Is That Eternal Rose (Patrick Tam Kar-Ming, 1989)
The Iceman Cometh (Clarence Yiu-leung Fok, 1989)
Pedicab Driver (Sammo Hung, 1989)
Images of the World and the Inscription of War (Harun Farocki, 1989)
The Unbelievable Truth (Hal Hartley, 1989)
Homework (Abbas Kiarostami, 1989)
Grandmother (Idrissa Ouedraogo, 1989)
The Plot Against Harry (Michael Roemer, 1989)
Emergency Kisses (Philippe Garrel, 1989)
Marriage of the Blessed (Mohsen Makhmalbaf, 1989)
Chameleon Street (Wendell B. Harris Jr., 1989)
Tetsuo: The Iron Man (Shinya Tsukamoto, 1989)
Elephant (Alan Clarke, 1989)

[thoxans]

You can watch it here

i'll watch it! need to incorporate more shorts into my viewing repertoire

[pabs]

Near Death (Frederick Wiseman, 1989)

Route One USA (Robert Kramer, 1989)
A City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
The Unbelievable Truth (Hal Hartley, 1989)
Les sièges de l'Alcazar (Luc Moullet, 1989)
[etc...]

Hi kanafani. Are those films of yours in that list roughly in the same order of how much esteem you have for them? I'd really like to know, as I've long thought we have similar tastes. If you do have your films ordered in a hierarchy (best to "least best"), then it means I'll automatically want to get Les sièges de l'Alcazar next (I already have the Hartley and Route One is too long for me at this point). So I'd be very grateful if you let me know if there is some kind of rough order to your lists.
.

[rischka]

recollections of the yellow house - monteiro

near death - wiseman
do the right thing - lee
a city of sadness - hou
marriage of the blessed - makhmalbaf
a better tomorrow 3 - tsui
les sieges de l'alcazar - moullet
nostos: il ritorno - piavoli
images of the world and the inscription of war - farocki
water and power - o'neill
pedicab driver - hung
yaaba - ouedraogo
my nights are more beautiful than your days - zulawski
my heart is that eternal rose - tam
barroco - leduc
kiki's delivery service - miyazaki
my twentieth century - enyedi
drugstore cowboy - van sant
before my eyes - kaul
johanna d'arc of mongolia - ottinger

might watch one or two more...

[thoxans]

might watch one or two more...

sndn3bwo! obvs

[rischka]

no but i now have jesus of montreal and mon oncle :geek:

[pabs]

recollections of the yellow house - monteiro

near death - wiseman

bumped down.