1998 Poll 2.0

[Evelyn Library P.I.]

Choose your favourite films from 1998 (according to IMDB).

Each person can vote for up to 20 films. Do not feel compelled to fill the maximum allowable number.

Twenty-film ballots can be formatted as follows:
- Five tiers of four films each, 4/4/4/4/4; scored 5-4-3-2-1 pts/film/tier
- Four tiers of five films each, 5/5/5/5; scored 4.5-3.5-2.5-1.5 pts/film/tier
- Two tiers of ten films each, 10/10; scored 4-2 pts/film/tier
- No tiers, unranked; scored 3 pts/film
- A 20-film three-tier ballot is not possible

A tiered ballot can include less than 20 films, but in that case the total number of films must still be able to be factored by the number of tiers, so:
- A five tier ballot can include only 20, 15, 10, or 5 films
- A four tier ballot can include only 20, 16, 12, 8, or 4 films
- A three tier ballot (scored 5-3-1) can include only 18, 15, 12, 9, 6, or 3 films
- A two tier ballot can include only 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, or 2 films
- Ballots that are 19, 17, 13, 11, 7 or 1 films must be no tiers

Users are urged to post their provisional lists as soon as possible, so that others can use them for recommendations. You may revise your lists at any point prior to the deadline.

Deadline for 1998 ballots will be Monday, July 31st at roughly midnight EDT.

[greennui]

The Big Lebowski 1998 Directed by Joel Coen
Kestrel’s Eye 1998 ‘Falkens öga’ Directed by Mikael Kristersson
Dutch Harbor: Where the Sea Breaks its Back 1998 Directed by Braden King, Laura Moya
Vassourinha: The Voice and The Void 1998 ‘A Voz e o Vazio: A Vez de Vassourinha’ Directed by Carlos Adriano
Variations 1998 Directed by Nathaniel Dorsky
Flowers of Shanghai 1998 ‘海上花’ Directed by Hou Hsiao-hsien
Serial Experiments Lain 1998 ‘シリアルエクスペリメンツレイン’ Directed by Yuichi Tanaka, Masahiro Sekigu
Slam 1998 Directed by Marc Levin
Velvet Goldmine 1998 Directed by Todd Haynes
Places in Cities 1998 ‘Plätze in Städten’ Directed by Angela Schanelec
Show Me Love 1998 ‘Fucking Åmål’ Directed by Lukas Moodysson
Sada 1998 ‘SADA 戯作・阿部定の生涯’ Directed by Nobuhiko Obayashi
Happiness 1998 Directed by Todd Solondz
The Thin Red Line 1998 Directed by Terrence Malick
Shattered Image 1998 Directed by Raúl Ruiz

[rischka]

nm, i could have swore this had english subs when i posted it

[rischka]

histoire(s) du cinema
a hero never dies - johnnie to
dil se - mani ratnam
terminus paradis - lucien pintilie
a tale of autumn - eric rohmer
flowers of shanghai - hou hsiao-hsien
life on earth - abderrahmane sissako
the last days of disco - whit stillman
inquietude - manoel oliveira
dr. akagi - shohei imamura
la vendedora de rosas - victor gaviria
the hole - tsai ming-liang
new rose hotel - abel ferrera
beshkempir - aktan arym kubat
fucking amal - lukas moodysson
szenvedély - györgy fehér
falkens oga - mikael kristersson
the shoe - laila pakalniņa
a voz e o vazio: a vez de vassourinha - carlos adriano
dutch harbor - king/moya

[sally]

the shoe - laila pakalniņa
dichtweefsel - frans van de staak
haru, island of the solitary - kanerva cederström, riikka tanner
the roman street in the aosta valley - peter nestler
szenvedély - györgy fehér
falkens öga - mikael kristersson
the falconer - chris petit, iain sinclair
aprile - nanni moretti
life on earth - abderrahmane sissako
requiem - alain tanner
temenos - nina danino
beshkempir - aktan arym kubat
places in cities - angela schanelec
variations - nathaniel dorsky
tgv - moussa touré
inquietude - manoel de oliveira
khrustalyov, my car! - aleksey german
film ist. 1-6 - gustav deutsch
secret defense - jacques rivette
the power of kangwon province - hong sang-soo


gonna finally watch dutch harbor

[niminy-piminy]

THE MAN LISTENING SILENCE (Robert Cahen, 1998, 3m)
https://letterboxd.com/film/lhomme-a-le ... u-silence/

https://vimeo.com/516738702

[rischka]

how did i forget 'the shoe'

i will finally watch khrustalyov, my car!

[St. Gloede]

My top 20:

Happiness (1998, Todd Solondz)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998, Terry Gillian)
Idioterne / The Idiots (1998, Lars von Trier)
Dong / The Hole (1998, Ming-liang Tsai)

Rushmore (1998, Wes Anderson)
Choyonghan kajok / The Quiet Family (1998, Jee-woon Kim)
Beautiful Sunday (1998, Tetsuya Nakashima)
The Thin Red Line (1998, Terrence Malick)

Fucking Åmål / Show Me Love (1998, Lukas Moodysson)
Un 32 août sur terre / August 32nd on Earth (1998, Denis Villeneuve)
Conte d'automne / An Autumn Tale (1998, Éric Rohmer)
Perfect Blue (1998, Satoshi Kon)

Pi (1998, Darren Aronofsky)
The Big Lebowski (1998, The Coen Brothers)
Wandâfuru raifu / After Life (1998, Hirokazu Koreeda)
American History X (1998, Tony Kaye)

Out of Sight (1998, Steven Soderbergh)
Paran daemun / Birdcage Inn (1998, Ki-duk Kim)
Central do Brasil (1998, Walter Salles)
The Last Days of Disco (1998, Whit Stillman)

[flip]

Khroustaliov, My Car! (Alexei German)
The Hole (Tsai Ming-Liang)
The Silence (Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
Beshkempir (Aktan Abdykalykov)

The General (John Boorman)
Babe: Pig in the City (George Miller)
Flowers of Shanghai (Hou Hsiao-Hsien)
The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick)

The Bird People in China (Takashi Miike)
Festen (Thomas Vinterberg)
Small Soldiers (Joe Dante)
Happiness (Todd Solondz)

Saving Private Ryan (Steven Spielberg)
Out of Sight (Steven Soderbergh)
Secret Defense (Jacques Rivette)
Unlucky Monkey (Sabu)

Pleasantville (Gary Ross)
A Civil Action (Steven Zaillian)
The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf)
Black Cat, White Cat (Emir Kusturica)

[Silga]

[provisional list deleted]

[Lencho of the Apes]

Not a good year for me -- all I got:

Flowers Of Shanghai
El Evangelio De Las Maravillas/Divine - Ripstein
Terminus Paradis
Unlucky Monkey
The Mutilation Man
The Hole - Tsai Ming-Liang
Inquietude - de Oliveira
Bajo California: Los Limites Del Tiempo

[karl]

histoires du cinema is the lousiest "art film" joke i've ever seen, aside from those dirtbags strobhillets' minimalist masterpieces - easy to see why godard and the strobs were so fond of each other. got through two episodes until the mumbling narcissistic third-rate intellectual of that great over-hyped french movement with his scratchy-video-of-me-smoking-and-talking-to-myself + chaplin clips + holocaust footage + pornography = genius filled me with such violent loathing that i had to reach for the nearby pail to retch. maybe it gets better later?

but the year wasn't a total bust:

flowers of shanghai (hou)
silence (makhmalbaf)
the apple (makhmalbaf)
spring in my hometown (lee)
the common people (zhou)
dr. akagi (imamura)
the power of kangwon province (hong)
pear tree (mehrjui)
my name is joe (loach)
cabaret balkan (paskaljevic)
the outskirts (lutsik)
rushmore (anderson)
dialogues with solzhenitsyn aka the knot (sokurov)
the hole (tsai)
terminus paradis (pintilie)
flight of the bee (min & usmonov)
central station (salles)
rostov-luanda (sissoko)
the way we laughed (amelio)
siberian lesson (staron)
the thin red line (malick)


if i see no others, that's the final.

[rischka]

histoires du cinema is the lousiest "art film" joke i've ever seen, aside from those dirtbags strobhillets' minimalist masterpieces - easy to see why godard and the strobs were so fond of each other. got through two episodes until the mumbling narcissistic third-rate intellectual of that great over-hyped french movement with his scratchy-video-of-me-smoking-and-talking-to-myself + chaplin clips + holocaust footage + pornography = genius filled me with such violent loathing that i had to reach for the nearby pail to retch. maybe it gets better later?

i put it in just for you karl always nice to see you

[nrh]

happy 4th of July https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtMOvr-EC9o

[greennui]

nm, i could have swore this had english subs when i posted it

This was Vassourinha, right?

This one has subs, think it would work without them as well though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKMILVu3NUo

I'd put Dutch Harbor in the spot but I can't seem to locate it on my computer at the moment.

[sally]

I'd put Dutch Harbor in the spot but I can't seem to locate it on my computer at the moment.

i have it from you from before! but i left it so long without watching it for your dtc nominations that the guilt of not watching it grew to be the obstacle to watching it......hopefully the year poll angle will neutralise this neurotic tendency and i'll actually get around to watching it. on the other hand now that i've formally announced my previous failure and new intention, this may itself prove to be another insurmountable obstacle (i've formulated the theory over the years that by the time my calcified brain has got around to verbalising anything, the thing that prompted it is already over, gone....i love you actually only ever means i loved you etc, funereal utterances, tongue as tombstone...by the time i say 'i will' the window for action closed an age ago)....anyway....we'll see!

[sally]

the first farewell to paradise - arūnas matelis

i hadn't watched a lithuanian poetic doc in ages...*stares hard at como votes*

[MrCarmady]

The Big Lebowski
Rushmore
New Rose Hotel
The Thin Red Line
Khrustalyov, My Car!

Fucking Amal
After Life
The Last Days of Disco
Can't Hardly Wait
Snake Eyes

Pi
Alone. Life Wastes Andy Hardy
Late August, Early September
The Dinner Game
There's Something About Mary

Shakespeare in Love
42 Up
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Last Night
Velvet Goldmine

HMs: Buffalo '66, Lola rennt, Ronin, The Quiet Family

Definitely need to rewatch some of these, will reformat the list as well.

To see:
Autumn Tale
The Power of Kangwon Province
Happiness
Croupier
Out of Sight
The Hole
Your Friends and Neighbours
Black Cat, White Cat
Eternity and a Day
Pickpocket
+++

[karl]

Once hyped by Tony Rayns as the great hope of Chinese film, oft-censored Zhou Xiaowen made a strange but kinda terrific movie this year that only 11 people have seen on Letterboxd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZgWMkw3ths

There used to be HD copies of this on Youtube, but they're gone now. KG has a good rip.

Rayns on Zhou:

https://i.imgur.com/5JyWVpC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l1Dj01z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kz07r3s.jpg

[rischka]

expect the unexpected - patrick yau tat-chi/johnnie to




i could watch this guy drive all day but i'll stick with 'a hero never dies' -

i'm planning to watch festen and buffalo '66 i made it through the brown bunny so why not

karl what is the name of that film please - google translate is not helping

[rischka]

this film is on 18 ICM lists wtf. it better be good

[rischka]

is this kendall roy's home movies

[niminy-piminy]

THE BUSINESS TRIP (Mayram Yusupova, 1998)

https://youtu.be/K2kT38cem8E

[Monsieur Arkadin]

Secret Defense - Jacques Rivette
The Hole - Tsai Ming-Liang
Snake Eyes - Brian De Palma
Meet Joe Black - Martin Brest
The Last Days of Disco - Whit Stillman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Terry Gilliam
Buffalo '66 - Vincent Gallo
New Rose Hotel - Abel Ferrara
Pi - Darren Aronofsky
The Mask of Zorro - Martin Campbell

[flip]

karl what is the name of that film please - google translate is not helping

i believe it is this:

https://letterboxd.com/film/common-people-1998/

[rischka]

thx for mentioning dutch harbor above! my kinda movie ♥

[rischka]

karl what is the name of that film please - google translate is not helping

i believe it is this:

https://letterboxd.com/film/common-people-1998/

excellent detective work!! appreciate it

[rischka]

a tough film to watch. handicapped people don't get enough representation. how come i assumed that healthcare was free in communist china? instead it seems possibly even worse than the US, where at the very least they can't throw you out of the emergency room. outrageous in any case.

what i really like is - it's foreshadowing the chinese documentary movement - a realistic documentary style about an unexpected subject - in a (hybrid) fiction film. see also xiao wu (1997)... an underrecognized director for sure. THX KARL

i remember enjoying the director's 1994 films as well and i will make a spot for this one

[billyhu85]

After Life - Hirokazu Kore-eda
The Hole - Tsai Ming-liang
Eternity and a Day - Theo Angelopoulos
The Idiots - Lars von Trier

Rushmore - Wes Anderson
The Big Lebowski - The Coen Bros.
The Celebration - Thomas Vinterberg
Buffalo '66 - Vincent Gallo

Saving Private Ryan - Steven Spielberg
Armageddon - Michael Bay
Belly - Hype Williams
The Faculty - Robert Rodriguez

The Truman Show - Peter Weir
Khrustalyov, My Car! - Aleksei German
Satya - Ram Gopal Varma
Flowers of Shanghai - Hou Hsiao-hsien

[DT.]

Besieged (Bernardo Bertolucci)
The Big Lebowski (Joel and Ethan Coen)
Black Cat, White Cat (Emir Kusturica)
Dance Me to My Song (Rolf de Heer)
Flowers of Shanghai (Hou Hsiao-Hsien)
The Last Days of Disco (Whit Stillman)
Secret Defense (Jacques Rivette)
Snake Eyes (Brian De Palma)
Sombre (Philippe Grandrieux)
The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick)
Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train (Patrice Chéreau)

Want to watch:

Bulworth (Warren Beatty)
Class Trip (Claude Miller)
The General (John Boorman)
The Power of Kangwon Province (Hong Sang-soo)
Primary Colors (Mike Nichols)
The Quiet Family (Kim Jee-woon)