SCI-FI! --- scfz genre poll

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twodeadmagpies wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:55 pm thanks flip for waiting, i'm ashamed to say i didn't watch as many as i thought i would, and i've just got a random amount of the list because i can't push it to a whole number, want me to cut some off? it's unranked apart from if i could give stalker all the points ever. but at your discretion :) i've amended original post, and reposted here, just in case
no problem! no reason to cut any films, the only restriction on ballot size is no more than 100 films. the scoring system is really designed with equally sized tiers in mind, so if you're leaving the decision to me, i'll just treat your whole ballot as unranked, rather than give more points to stalker, but fewer points to every other film on your ballot (which i don't want to do!). if you do want to rank your ballot so stalker gets more points, you could divide it into two or more tiers, i'll probably not factor your ballot into the tally until tomorrow some time.
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i've finished tabulating, so the poll is officially closed, will post the results once i format the list, probably tonight, if anyone wants to bet on the winner (before the poll started, i thought there were only three realistic candidates) now is your chance!
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2001 won our favourite movie poll once I think so it'd be hilarious if it couldn't win this

I'm betting one of Stalker/Solaris takes it though
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you will win that bet!
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i actually worked out the top 200 scifiz films from the ballots. a few notes:

- there was a lot of separation at the top of the list -- the winner won by 6.5 points (even without any bonus points from twodeadmagpies), so by more than a first-place vote, and there was more than 20 points separating #1 and #5

- to make the top 100, a film needed 9 points (exactly 100 films had 9+ points), so one first-tier vote and one second-tier vote, on ballots with five tiers, would secure a top 100 spot

- i used letterboxd views to break ties, though there weren't too many of them until outside the top 100 because there was a lot of variation in tier-sizing, which leads to weird point totals. that's time-consuming, so i didn't bother doing it properly for the films from #101-#184, then i just guessed, though i imagine no one will really care if a film is #177 or #178

- more than 240 films had 5 or more points, but roughly 60 had exactly 5 points. so i worked out which of those had the fewest letterboxd views, and those made the top 200. so everything from #185-#200 was tied, and the two films at the end, perchance to dream and kaiba, were also part of that sixty-way tie for #185, but they're not on letterboxd at all, so i had no way to figure out how many views they have. if i post a top 200 to letterboxd, i'll include them in the intro text above the list

- i'd normally post images for the top ten, but my usual image host is now defunct, and i just want to post the results and not work out how to get pictures up!
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and here it is, scfz's top 200 sci fi films:


1. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
2. Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
4. La Jetee (Chris Marker, 1962)
5. Alien (Ridley Scott, 1979)
6. The Thing (John Carpenter, 1982)
7. Seconds (John Frankenheimer, 1966)
8. World on a Wire (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1973)
9. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
10. Blade Runner (Ridley Scott, 1982)
11. Metropolis (Fritz Lang. 1927)
12. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
13. Frankenstein (James Whale, 1931)
14. Starman (John Carpenter, 1984)
15. Bride of Frankenstein (James Whale, 1935)
16. The Incredible Shrinking Man (Jack Arnold, 1957)
17. A Trip to the Moon (Georges Melies, 1902)
18. Robocop (Paul Verhoeven, 1987)
19. Starship Troopers (Paul Verhoeven, 1997)
20. They Live (John Carpenter, 1988)
21. Akira (Katsuhiro Otomo, 1988)
22. The Terminator (James Cameron, 1984)
23. Island of Lost Souls (Eric C. Kenton, 1932)
24. The Fly (David Cronenberg, 1986)
25. August in the Water (Sogo Ishii, 1995)
26. Je t'aime, je t'aime (Alain Resnais, 1968)
27. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Don Siegel, 1956)
28. The Face of Another (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1966)
29. The Man Who Fell to Earth (Nicolas Roeg, 1976)
30. Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
31. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
32. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
33. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuaron, 2006)
34. The Hole (Tsai Ming-liang, 1998)
35. Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2 Century (Chuck Jones, 1952)
36. Aliens (James Cameron, 1986)
37. New Rose Hotel (Abel Ferrara, 1988)
38. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Philip Kaufman, 1978)
39. Ex Machina (Alex Garland, 2015)
40. Minority Report (Steven Spielberg, 2002)
41. Jurassic Park (Steven Spielberg, 1993)
42. Repo Man (Alex Cox, 1984)
43. Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)
44. Dark Star (John Carpenter, 1974)
45. Strange Days (Katheryn Bigelow, 1995)
46. Invasion (Hugo Santiago, 1969)
47. Born in Flames (Lizzie Borden, 1983)
48. The Falls (Peter Greenaway, 1980)
49. The Heart of the World (Guy Maddin, 2000)
50. Les Creatures (Agnes Varda, 1966)
51. Liquid Sky (Slava Tsukerman, 1982)
52. Brazil (Terry Gilliam, 1985)
53. Woman in the Moon (Fritz Lang, 1929)
54. Brand Upon the Brain! (Guy Maddin, 2006)
55. Zardoz (John Boorman, 1974)
56. A Scanner Darkly (Richard Linklater, 2006)
57. Star Wars (George Lucas, 1977)
58. The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner, 1980)
59. Scanners (David Cronenberg, 1981)
60. eXistenZ (David Cronenberg, 1999)
61. King Kong (Merian C. Cooper / Ernest B. Schoedsack, 1933)
62. The Nutty Professor (Jerry Lewis, 1963)
63. Deja Vu (Tony Scott, 2006)
64. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
65. 12 Monkeys (Terry Gilliam, 1996)
66. Predator (John McTiernan, 1987)
67. X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes (Roger Corman, 1963)
68. On the Silver Globe (Andrzej Zulawski, 1988)
69. Barbarella (Roger Vadim, 1968)
70. Contact (Robert Zemeckis, 1997)
71. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Robert Mamoulian, 1931)
72. The Fly (Kurt Neumann, 1958)
73. Forbidden Planet (Fred M. Wilcox, 1956)
74. La Mort en Direct (Bertrand Tavernier, 1980)
75. Ghost in the Shell (Mamoru Oshii, 1995)
76. Signs (M. Night Shyamalan, 2002)
77. E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (Steven Spielberg, 1982)
78. Alphaville (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
79. Amphibian Man (Vladimir Chebotaryov, 1961)
80. Angel's Egg (Mamoru Oshii, 1988)
81. World of Tomorrow (Don Hertzfeldt, 2015)
82. Small Soldiers (Joe Dante, 1988)
83. The Day the Earth Stood Still (Robert Wise, 1951)
84. Godzilla (Ishiro Honda, 1954)
85. The Host (Joon-Ho Bong, 2006)
86. Kin-dza-dza! (Georgiy Daneliya, 1986)
87. Shivers (David Cronenberg, 1975)
88. Shin Godzilla (Hideaki Anno, 2016)
89. Mad Max (George Miller, 1979)
90. Total Recall (Paul Verhoeven, 1990)
91. L’Inhumaine (Marcel l'Herbier, 1924)
92. The Thing From Another World (Howard Hawks/Christian Nyby, 1951)
93. Planet of the Apes (Franklin J. Schaffner, 1968)
94. Love in the Time of Twilight (Tsui Hark, 1995)
95. Sins of the Fleshapoids (Mike Kuchar, 1965)
96. The Man from Planet X (Edgar G. Ulmer, 1951)
97. Tetsuo: The Iron Man (Shinya Tsukamoto, 1988)
98. Fantastic Planet (Rene Laloux, 1973)
99. The Happening (M. Night Shyamalan, 2008)
100. Gravity (Alfonso Cuaron, 2013)

101. Upstream Color (Shane Carruth, 2013)
102. Aelita Queen of Mars (Yakov Protazanov, 1924)
103. Demon Seed (Donald Cammell, 1977)
104. I Married a Monster from Outer Space (Gene Fowler Jr., 1958)
105. Quatermass and the Pit (Roy Ward Baker, 1967)
106. 4:44 Last Day on Earth (Abel Ferrara, 2011)
107. Altered States (Ken Russell 1980)
108. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Hayao Miyazaki, 1984)
109. The Truman Show (Peter Weir, 1998)
110. Interstellar (Christopher Nolan, 2014)
111. The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1986)
112. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
113. Dark City (Alex Proyas, 1998)
114. Invisible Adversaries (Valie Export 1977)
115. Super Inframan (Hua Shan, 1975)
116. Morning Patrol (Nikos Nikolaidis, 1987)
117. L’Atlantide (Jacques Feyder, 1921)
118. The Lost World (Harry O. Hoyt, 1925)
119. The Impossible Voyage (Georges Melies, 1904)
120. Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2001)
121. The Red Spectacles (Mamoru Oshii, 1987)
122. Logan's Run (Michael Anderson, 1976)
123. Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze, 1999)
124. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (Stephen Herek, 1989)
125. Cloud Atlas (Tom Tykwer, Lana Wachowski, Lilly Wachowski, 2012)
126. The Martian (Ridley Scott, 2015)
127. The Matrix (Lilly Wachowski / Lana Wachowski, 1999)
128. Planet of the Vampires (Mario Bava, 1965)
129. Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974)
130. Anti-Clock (Jane Arden/Jack Bond, 1979)
131. In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal (Pierre Clementi, 1986)
132. Trouble in Mind (Alan Rudolph, 1985)
133. Primer (Shane Carruth, 2004)
134. Paprika (Satoshi Kon, 2006)
135. Castle in the Sky (Hayao Miyazaki, 1986)
136. Moon (Duncan Jones, 2009)
137. A Clockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick, 1971)
138. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (James Cameron, 1991)
139. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
140. 2046 (Wong Kar-Wai, 2004)
141. Snowpiercer (Joon-ho Bong, 2013)
142. The Extraordinary Adventures of Saturino Farandola (Marcel Perez 1913)
143. Invaders from Mars (William Cameron Menzies, 1953)
144. Mothra (Ishiro Honda, 1961)
145. The Wasp Woman (Roger Corman, 1959)
146. Hard to Be a God (Alexei German, 2013)
147. Electric Dragon 80,000 V (Sogo Ishii, 2001)
148. Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
149. The World's End (Edgar Wright, 2013)
150. Annihilation (Alex Garland 2018)
151. Krakatit (Otakar Vavra, 1948)
152. Late August at the Hotel Ozone (Jan Schmidt, 1967)
153. Big Bang Love, Juvenile A (Takashi Miike, 2006)
154. The Brood (David Cronenberg, 1979)
155. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Richard Fleischer, 1952)
156. Gattaca (Andrew Niccol, 1997)
157. Back to the Future Part II (Robert Zemeckis, 1989)
158. Pacific Rim (Guillermo del Toro, 2013)
159. Robot (S Shankar, 2010)
160. Onesime, Clockmaker (Jean Durand, 1912)
161. Phantasm (Don Coscarelli, 1979)
162. Nemesis (Albert Pyun, 1992)
163. Dead Man’s Letters (Konstantin Lopushansky, 1986)
164. Black Moon (Louis Malle, 1975)
165. Colossus: The Forbin Project (Joseph Sargent, 1970)
166. Doppelganger (Kiyoshi Kurasawa, 2003)
167. Conquest of the North Pole (Georges Melies, 1912)
168. The Invisible Man (James Whale, 1933)
169. Eraserhead (David Lynch, 1977)
170. Superman (Richard Donner, 1978)
171. Them! (Gordon Douglas, 1954)
172. Re-Animator (Stuart Gordon, 1985)
173. The Day the Earth Caught Fire (Val Guest, 1961)
174. The Thousand Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (Fritz Lang, 1960)
175. The Man in the White Suit (Alexander Mackendrick, 1951)
176. Another Earth (Mike Cahill, 2011)
177. Coherence (James Ward Byrkit, 2013)
178. Serenity (Joss Whedon, 2005)
179. Escape from New York (John Carpenter, 1981)
180. The Fifth Element (Luc Besson, 1997)
181. Edge of Tomorrow (Doug Liman, 2014)
182. Pitch Black (David Twohy, 2000)
183. The Abyss (James Cameron, 1986)
184. The Iron Giant (Brad Bird, 1999)
185. Non-Stop New York (Robert Stevenson, 1937)
186. Interkosmos (Jim Finn 2006)
187. The Master of Shiatsu (Sogo Ishii, 1989)
188. The Big Space Travel (Valentin Selivanov 1975)
189. The Automatic Motorist (Walter R. Booth, 1911)
190. Design for Dreaming (William Beaudine, 1956)
191. The End of the World (August Blom 1916)
192. The Head (Victor Trivas, 1959)
193. Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself With Tea (Jindrich Polak, 1977)
194. Treasure of the Bitch Islands (FJ Ossang, 1990)
195. Ajantrik (Ritwik Ghatak, 1958)
196. Possible Worlds (Robert Lepage, 2000)
197. Das Millionenspiel (Tom Toelle, 1970)
198. The Arctic Giant (Dave Fleischer, 1942)
199. Venus Wars (Yoshikazu Yasuhiko, 1989)
200. The Naked Jungle (Byron Haskin, 1954)
+ Perchance to Dream (Robert Florey, 1959)
+ Kaiba (Masaaki Yuasa, 2008)
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Thanks flip. And yay!
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Nice. Will there be a letterboxd list?
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greennui wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:19 pm Nice. Will there be a letterboxd list?
yes there will! in fact there is as of two minutes ago :)

list is up here, did the top 200 so there's a lot of variety and some obscure titles:

https://letterboxd.com/fliptrotsky/list ... scfz-poll/
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