1980 poll

[sally]

since legend of tianyun mountain has topped two lists....don't suppose anyone's got it have they? (didn't angel have it on a channel of his years ago? or..maybe not, i get the feeling i've been meaning to watch it for a long time)

I can get this I think. I'm in the middle of a distant cry from spring and its marvellous. Never doubt karlk

edit: check the place

And again with brighter colors.

wowza, that looks gorgeous, thanks angel and rischka and ofrene for the last witness and now i have to shut up and watch stuff

[rischka]

1980 has been a great year for asian cinema, the last witness is a procedural of the type memories of murder and vengeance trilogy, complicated plot but the ending really puts it over. #ACAB


https://twitter.com/rbgscfz/status/1288 ... 48673?s=20

now i'm in the middle of tianyun mountain, confounding didacticism way beyond stage sisters, lovely color amid cheery revolutionaries



really?? jin xie adds some arty touches. still undecided on the tone here lol

[rischka]

annnnnnd it won me over in spite of some operatic ridiculousness



how can one not love a film with such a credit sequence

[rischka]

narcissus and psyche - gabor body
esthappan - govindan aravindan
the falls - peter greenaway
dangerous encounters of the first kind - hark tsui
the sword - patrick tam
a story of the forest: mavka - yuri ilyenko
the constant factor - krzysztof zanussi
who's singing over there - slobodan sijan
poto and cabengo - jean-pierre gorin
bat w/o wings - chor yuen
killer constable - kuei chih-hung
crazy thunder road - gakuryu ishii
zigeunerweisen - seijun suzuki
evening rain - yonggang wu
arising from the surface - mani kaul
simone barbes ou la vertu - marie-claude treilhou
c'est la vie! - paul vecchiali
a distant cry from spring - yoji yamada
the last witness - lee doo-yong
legend of tianyun mountain - jin xie

lot of great discoveries this time!! thx for the tips everyone!~

[Silga]

Final list:

1. American Gigolo (Paul Schrader)

The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)
The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner)
Atlantic City (Louis Malle)
Stardust Memories (Woody Allen)
Just Tell Me What You Want (Sidney Lumet)
Hopscotch (Ronald Neame)
Used Cars (Robert Zemeckis)
Maniac (William Lustig)
Loulou (Maurice Pialat)
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)
The Fog (John Carpenter)
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma)
The Blues Brothers (John Landis)
The Solar Film (Elaine Bass, Saul Bass)
Stir Crazy (Sidney Poitier)

[brian d]

merry-go-round (jacques rivette)
narcissus and psyche (gabor body)
mavka: song of the forest (yuri ilyenko)
bhavni bhavai (ketan mehta)
esthappan (govindan aravindan)
killer constable (kuei chih-hung)
refused (frieda liappa)
alexander the great (theo angelopoulos)
panelstory or birth of a community (vera chytilova)
clan of the white lotus (lo lieh)
el salvador: el pueblo vencerá (diego de la texera)
build a house, plant a tree (juraj jakubisko)
arising from the surface (mani kaul)
zigeunerweisen (seijun suzuki)
catherine de heilbronn (eric rohmer)
confidence (istvan szabo)
city after dark (ishmael bernal)*
village in the jungle (lester james peries)
kagemusha (akira kurosawa)
mudas mudanças (saguenail)

[thoxans]

will try to fit in one more before the august cubed deadline. maybe killer constable, so i can double up with the wuxia! poll...

[therouxxx]

Final--

Khubsoorat (Hrishikesh Mukherjee)
Every Man For Himself (Jean-Luc Godard)
Simone Barbes or Virtue (Marie-Claude Treilhou)
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma)
Aakrosh (Govind Nihalani)
The Sword (Patrick Tam Kar-ming)

Saw a couple more that I couldn't quite wrap my head around. Return to the 36th Chamber has the scaffolding sequences which are comparable to the best moments of any of these--or any movie ever, really--but I still struggle figure out Lau Kar-leung's comedy. Thought the Chor Yuens were both solid, I hope we do a poll for him soon. A sidenote: I don't get the Alexander Fu Sheng thing at all; not sure how that's supposed to be a lead actor. Hopefully will see 1 or 2 more this weekend.

[mesnalty]

Final:

1. The Falls (Greenaway)

Airplane! (Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker)
Alexander the Great (Angelopoulos)
Esthappan (Aravindan)
Narcissus and Psyche (Body)
Murder Psalm (Brakhage)
Panelstory (Chytilova)
Operneia (Eizykman)
Berlin Alexanderplatz (Fassbinder)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)
Who's Singin' Over There (Sijan)
Simone Barbes or Virtue (Treilhou)
C'est la Vie! (Vecchiali)

[ofrene]

Final

The Last Witness

Alexander the Great
Confidence

Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind

Dressed to Kill
Heaven’s Gate

Kagemusha

Killer Constable

My American Uncle
Raging Bull

Pursuit of Death

Simone Barbes or Virtue

Talking Heads

Zigeunerweisen

[Lencho of the Apes]

i'm starting to think it's not meant to be 'followed'

If Tsigoineruwaizen is a ghost story where most of the ghosting activity is involved with recovering books and records that the guy lent out during his lifetime, I can to.tal.ly relate to that. The rest of it is a mighty obliquity, though.

Some last minute rec.s:

O Homem que Virou Suco / The Man that Was Turned Into Juice — J. Batista de Andrade -- Brazilian "Marginal Cinema" movement, I reckon. Poet/anarchist everyman gets into trouble everywhere he goes cuz he disrupts power relationships with his irrepressible acting-out. No self-control. It has the rhythms of comedy, but it's usually too sour + miserable to be funny. Thanks, Ralch! It's on youtube with engsubs.

The Ninth Configuration - W P Blatty
The first half-hour of this was so calculatedly wack that it reminded me of Louis Malle's Black Moon. Definitely a "subject for further study"and I hope I find time to finish it (or at least watch enough to form a confident opinion before the Aug 3rd deadline, but no promises.

New poll goes up in a few hours, in case anyone's eager to move on.

EDIT: Also, Forbidden Zone turned out to be a massive cringe,and I'm sorry I suggested it.Can you ever forgive me, Pabs?

[...]

Final list. Not exceptionally enthused about some of them, but good enough to pass I guess. Might switch in The Fog or one of many other mildly pleasing diversions for Popeye, not that any of them really matter all that much.

Zigeunerweisen
The Age of the Earth
Every Man for Himself
The Spooky Bunch
Taxi zum Klo
Return to the 36th Chamber
Kagemusha
Oblomov
Gregory's Girl
Evening Rain

Stardust Memories
The Long Good Friday
The Changeling
Used Cars
Mon oncle d'Amérique
Out of the Blue
American Gigolo
Altered States
Breaking Glass
Popeye

[sally]

final list. didn't get time for the jerry lewis, the bernal, the antonioni (really wanted to see that) or the zanussi, but still will watch them all at some point


sauve qui peut (la vie) / every man for himself
merry go round
majstori, majstori
microphone test
evening rain
alexander the great
esthappan
palermo or wolfsburg
bhavni bhavai
the spooky bunch
simone barbes or virtue
c'est la vie
death watch
arising from the surface
gregory's girl
garazh
getting to know the big wide world
the last witness
les photos d'alix
the falls

[MrCarmady]

shit, gregory's girl is 1980? that's new
if you're still accepting revisions i'd love to put it on there and get rid of some other stuff, see below
Times Square (Moyle)
Babylon (Rosso)
Gregory's Girl (Forsyth)
Loulou (Pialat)
Airplane! (Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker)
Dressed to Kill (De Palma)
The Long Riders (Hill)
Garazh (Ryazanov)
The Night of the Hunted (Rollin)
The Long Good Friday (Mackenzie)
Inferno (Argento)
Crac (Back)*
Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears (Menshov)
Raging Bull (Scorsese)*
Caddyshack (Ramis)

Oh cool! For some reason I'm pretty weak on the late 70s/early 80s so it'll be good to watch a bunch more stuff.

Times Square (Moyle)
Babylon (Rosso)
Loulou (Pialat)
Airplane! (Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker)
Dressed to Kill (De Palma)
The Long Riders (Hill)
Garazh (Ryazanov)
The Night of the Hunted (Rollin)
The Long Good Friday (Mackenzie)
Inferno (Argento)
Crac (Back)*
Raging Bull (Scorsese)*
Caddyshack (Ramis)
The Empire Strikes Back (Kershner)
American Gigolo (Schrader)*
Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears (Menshov)
The Fog (Carpenter)*
Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Blank)
Melvin and Howard (Demme)
The Blues Brothers (Landis)

* - hope to re-watch

Watch-list:
Permanent Vacation (Jarmusch)
The Falls (Greenaway)
Every Man for Himself (Godard)
The Shining (Kubrick)
Bad Timing (Roeg)
Berlin Alexanderplatz (lol) (Fassbinder)
Stardust Memories (Allen)
Altered States (Russell)
Ordinary People (Redford)
Zigeunerweisen (Suzuki)
The Gods Must Be Crazy (Uys)
Kagemusha (Kurosawa)
City of the Living Dead (Fulci)
Death Watch (Tavernier)
Gloria (Cassavetes)
The Blue Lagoon (Kleiser)
The Last Metro (Truffaut)
Spetters (Verhoeven)
Cruising (Friedkin)
Lightning Over Water (Ray/Wenders)
Poto and Cabengo (Gorin)
Fox Hunting (Abdrashitov)
Vivre est une solution (Courant)
Simone Barbes or Virtue (Treilhou)
Out of the Blue (Hopper)

Plus re-watch:
The Big Red One (Fuller)
The Elephant Man (Lynch)

[sally]

Garazh (Ryazanov)

argh i forgot so much! i have edited my above post (although doubt lencho has tallied in the meantime)

and thanks to greg for pointing out gregory's girl, hadn't logged it on letterboxd and it slipped past me

[thoxans]

lencho is a notorious lazy bones, so i wouldn't be surprised ... meanwhile, i'm still working on my ballot for the 6th ann top 100 cuz i like to pretend i remain a schoolboy waiting until the last min to finish his homework ... and i have to be honest, i'm doin a damn fine job of it, if i do say so myself (my sympathies go out to flip on these occasions)

[Lencho of the Apes]

No tallying till Monday; whenever the 1st falls on a weekend... to cosset people who use their weekends in particular for movie-watching purposes.

^^ Too lazy even to write out the complete sentence. Or finish my own ballot yet.

[Lencho of the Apes]

Mah twenty:

Popeye - Altman ]/b]

A Paso De Cojo - Alcoriza
Bhavni Bhavai
Bona - Lino Brocka
christmas evil (lewis jackson)
El Coyote Y La Bronca -
Dangerous Encounter First Kind - Tsui Hark
The Elephant Man - Lynch
Esthappan
Germany Pale Mother
Hirak Rajar Deshe/Kingdom Of Diamonds - Satjayit Ray
O Homem que Virou Suco / The Man that Was Turned Into Juice — J. Batista de Andrade
Lion of the Desert
Maniac -
the ninth configuation (william peter blatty)
Permanent Vacation - Jarmusch
Rude Boy - Hazan/Mingay
A Story Of The Forest: Mavka - Ilyenko
Zig~Zag (Raúl Ruiz)
Zoom In: Rape Apartments -

[pabs]

Thanks to the 15 hour time difference between my world and Pacific Time, I've got until 4am the following morning (my time) to squeeze in maybe two more. I've watched only three for this poll, one of which turned out to be from 1981, so it's now disqualified. The two others I watched haven't made my final list.

I've seen at least 10 more 1980 films over the years (i.e., not for this poll), but I'm not putting them on my list as they're too obvious. I absolutely had to make an exception for The Shining and Raging Bull, though, coz they're just too great and deserve to be on every 1980 list imo.

Hope to fit Esthappan in and maybe one more before bed tonight.

Sometimes I wonder if I subconsciously avoid watching films for year polls as a result of feeling a wee bit of pressure to watch them. I know I'm like that already with my own watchlists. If I feel I have to see films, I'll delay watching them even more.

[ororama]

1. Melvin and Howard  (Jonathan Demme)
Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
The Shining  (Stanley Kubrick)
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)
Raging Bull  (Martin Scorsese)
Gregory's Girl (Bill Forsyth)
Ordinary People (Robert Redford)
Superman II  (Richard Lester)
Magnificent Butcher  (Yuen Woo-ping & Sammo Hung)
Encounters of the Spooky Kind (Sammo Hung)
The Constant Factor (Krzysztof Zanussi)
Breaker Morant (Bruce Beresford) 
Altered States (Ken Russell) 
The Big Red One  (Sam Fuller)
The Fog (John Carpenter)
The Sword (Patrick Tam)
Alligator (Lewis Teague)
Kagemusha (Akira Kurosawa)
The Long Good Friday (John Mackenzie)
Effects (Dusty Nelson)

[john ryan]

1. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese)

Mon Oncle D'amerique (Alain Resnais)
Alexander the Great (Theo Angelopoulos)
The Falls (Peter Greenaway)
Narcissus and Psyche (Gabor Body)
Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)
The Elephant Man (David Lynch)
Inferno (Dario Argento)
Poto and Cabengo (Jean-Pierre Gorin)
Kagemusha (Akira Kurosawa)
Hopscotch (Ronald Neame)
Talking Heads (Krzystof Kieslowski)
Melvin and Howard (Jonathan Demme)
Dangerous Encounters of the First Kind (Tsui Hark)
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)
The Long Good Friday (John Mackenzie)
The Constant Factor (Krzystof Zanussi)
Breaker Morant (Bruce Beresford)

[Lencho of the Apes]

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[Lencho of the Apes]

Every time I look at you... I could almost fall asleep.

I dunno, these results don't look right to me somehow, I might double-check them tomorrow. If anybody points out anything visibly wrong, I for sure will do them over.

1
Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese)

2
The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)

3
The Elephant Man - Lynch
Mon Oncle D'amerique (Alain Resnai
simone barbes or virtue

6/
The Falls (Peter Greenaway)
Zigeunerweisen

8
Airplane! (Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker)
Atlantic City (Louis Malle)
Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
Dressed to Kill (De Palma)
Heaven’s Gate


13
Esthappan
Narcissus and Psyche (Gabor Body)
Who's Singin' Over There (Sijan)

16
Alexander the Great (Theo Angelopoulos)
The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner)
evening rain
Gregory's Girl (Bill Forsyth)
The Long Good Friday (John Mackenzie)
Loulou (Pialat)

22
Altered States (Ken Russell)
American Gigolo
c'est la vie
Dangerous Encounter First Kind - Tsui Hark
Khubsoorat (Hrishikesh Mukherjee)
Killer Constable

legend of tianyun mountain - jin xie
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)
Maniac -
Melvin and Howard (Jonathan Demme)
merry go round
sauve qui peut (la vie) / every man for himself
The Sword (Patrick Tam)
Talking Heads (Krzystof Kieslowski)

36
arising from the surface
Bhavni Bhavai
The Big Red One (Sam Fuller)
The Blues Brothers (John Landis)
Confidence

The Constant Factor (Krzystof Zanussi)
Le dernier métro / The Last Metro (1980, François Truffaut)
a distant cry from spring - yoji yamada
Hollywood (Kevin Brownlow & David Gill)
Inferno (Dario Argento)
the last witness
death watch
Poto and Cabengo (Jean-Pierre Gorin)
Return to the 36th Chamber
Stardust Memories
A Story Of The Forest: Mavka - Ilyenko
The Stunt Man

53 - 76
arrival (mani kaul)
Babylon (Rosso)
A Bad Son (Sautet)
Bat Without Wings (Chor Yuen)
Breaker Morant (Bruce Beresford)
build a house, plant a tree (juraj jakubisko)
The Changeling
city after dark (ishmael bernal)*
City of Women
Cruising
The Fog (John Carpenter)
getting to know the big wide world
Gloria
The Gods Must Be Crazy
Hirak Rajar Deshe/Kingdom Of Diamonds - Satjayit Ray
jagko/Pursuit of Death

Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears (Menshov)
Oblomov
Ordinary People (Robert Redford)
Panelstory (Chytilova)
Petrijin venac (Petria's Wreath)
Popeye - Altman
Taxi zum Klo
Used cars

[MrCarmady]

You could put it in alphabetical order instead?
PS. No other votes for Times Square? You people are monsters
PPS. ICM list

[thoxans]

sooo, the storms have passed, and my internet is back. any chance i can post my final ballot now? watched quite a few for the poll that were gonna make my final list

[Lencho of the Apes]

Oh, God, Thoxans... I erased most of the information on my tallysheet about titles with 1-2 votes, so it's almost certain that processing your revision would mean going through the whole 5-6 hour process a second time. Post your revised ballot, and IF I decide that I fucked up the tally and have to do it over anyway, I'll include your new info.

[rischka]

wow. leaving raging bull and the shining completely off my ballot couldn't defeat them. too depressed to make an official list

but i'll work on my scfz 50.

[thoxans]

yikes! hope you didn't fuck up, but also kinda hope you did... no big deal either way. just for the sake of scfz's historical records though, final ballot is/was/wouldabeen:

HEAVEN's GATE (Michael Cimino)

bat without wings (chor yuen)
christmas evil (lewis jackson)
clan of the white lotus (lo lieh)
death watch (bertrand tavernier)
dressed to kill (brian de palma)
the flag of iron (chang cheh)
the fog (john carpenter)
garlic is as good as ten mothers (les blank)
heroes shed no tears (chor yuen)
kagemusha (akira kurosawa)
khubsoorat (hrishikesh mukherjee)
the long riders (walter hill)
maniac (william lustig)
the ninth configuration (william peter blatty)
used cars (robert zemeckis)

also, just now on the boxd homepage, noticed maniac getting a recent viewing, and thought in the back of my mind awww yeah the tastemakers at scfz strike again

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[pabs]

wow. leaving raging bull and the shining completely off my ballot couldn't defeat them. too depressed to make an official list

If I'd known I wouldn't have put them on my list. Sorry about that. I'm trying to Angel-ize (remove popular film titles) my ballots these days.

[rischka]

wow. leaving raging bull and the shining completely off my ballot couldn't defeat them. too depressed to make an official list

If I'd known I wouldn't have put them on my list. Sorry about that. I'm trying to Angel-ize (remove popular film titles) my ballots these days.

lol i don't hold you personally responsible, don't worry. i'm just going to proclaim bat w/o wings the winner and be done